One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

[Kachon123]

No. Zoro and Sanji's attack speeds aren't shown to be equal whatsoever

I have already had this debate with Emin, and we agreed that their Attack Speeds are comparable.

They both know each other. Neither are going to be aiming to get hit. Unless you're saying Zoro fights dumb.

What I'm saying is that Sanji has easier ways to exploit Zoros' weakness.

What Zoro needs to do is cut Sanji with AoE and superior AP. Sanji can counter that with CoC and superior speed to avoid that when close.
What Sanji needs to do is outlast Zoro's Enma Mode. Zoro can't do anything about that. We even saw Zoro when confronted with someone with better mobility.

The sword was going to kill him, but the medicine was ACTIVELY DRAWING BLOOD AND OPENING WOUNDS THAT HAD HIM STAGGERING mid-fight. I am sticking to the manga, just the whole thing instead of ignoring the obvious circumstances.

It cutting his time in half is headcanon. We have no idea how much it cut it, and if it did at all. Zoro was explicitly saying that Enma was killing him, after giving him the haki for not much time.

And he gets spammed with Buso slashes. You're basically saying "Zoro NEEDS ACOC to hurt Sanji and won't turn it off if Sanji just vibes in the air". The dude's got a brain in his head. He won't stand there yelling at Sanji to get down while ENma's eating his soul. Lmao.

Say he doesn't turn on CoC Enma Mode. If he does that, Enma would just forcibly take it from him, as that's what it needs, not buso. Enma is not satisfied with out CoC. Reread the fight.

Zoro. Doesn't. Need. Enma. Mode. And he can choose when it's on/off. What in the backwards hell kinda logic is "if he turns it on it stays on until he's out of energy"???

It's not about what he needs or not. Enma would force Zoro to use CoC, or he would just be at a bigger disadvantage.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

That's combat speed

 

[Kachon123]

That's combat speed

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[SnookB]

This legit needs a thread if it's gonna be debated

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

They would need to clash equally or something to be attack speed but we know Zoro has amps with those as well

 

[KingTempest]

This legit needs a thread if it's gonna be debated

No deadass

 

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

Random thought but. Do you guy's think Zoro will ever use any of Brook's/Ryuma's techniques in the future? If he's ever forced to use One Sword Style again, I can see them being useful, and he should be able to perform most of them due to his technique mimicry.

 

[Kachon123]

They would need to clash equally or something to be attack speed but we know Zoro has amps with those as well

And so does Sanji? Sanji FTE++ that attack easily.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

No deadass

Why? For, oh you mean a discussion thread?

 

[Kachon123]

Random thought but. Do you guy's think Zoro will ever use any of Brook's/Ryuma's techniques in the future? If he's ever forced to use One Sword Style again, I can see them being useful, and he should be able to perform most of them due to his technique mimicry.

That would be epic.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

This legit needs a thread if it's gonna be debated

Me as matches ambassador be like:

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

And so does Sanji? Sanji FTE++ that attack easily.

Sanji has movement speed amps

 

[SnookB]

Random thought but. Do you guy's think Zoro will ever use any of Brook's/Ryuma's techniques in the future? If he's ever forced to use One Sword Style again, I can see them being useful, and he should be able to perform most of them due to his technique mimicry.

He did copy Kitsunebi-Ryu on sight, yet not Brook's technique.. Even though he saw the latter more
Either he thinks they technique is inferior (Brook implied it), too similiar (cuz blitz amp for both techniques) or he doesn't want to steal the techniques of a crewmate-

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Me as matches ambassador be like:

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

He did copy Kitsunebi-Ryu on sight, yet not Brook's technique.. Even though he saw the latter more
Either he thinks they technique is inferior (Brook implied it), too similiar (cuz blitz amp for both techniques) or he doesn't want to steal the techniques of a crewmate-

The former two are likely more sense

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

or he doesn't want to steal the techniques of a crewmate-

Mmm

 

[Kachon123]

Sanji has movement speed amps

IJ Awakening Speeds > DJ Post-Awakening Speeds > Base Post-Awakening speeds > DJ Pre-Awakening speeds

 

[KingTempest]

Me as matches ambassador be like:

Boutta make official VSBW One Piece roles

Veloxt1r0kore: Matches Ambassador

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Boutta make official VSBW One Piece roles

, like disc or like staff?

 

[KingTempest]

, like disc or like staff?

disc(ussion)

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

 

[Kurifesilon]

I only talk here now and then so idk if this been discussed before, but why are obsessed with monkeys?

 

[Magmag]

I only talk here now and then so idk if this been discussed before, but why are obsessed with monkeys?

monkey is the way of life. theres no answer to being "obsessed", monkey is monkey.

 

[Nierre]

 

[SnookB]

I only talk here now and then so idk if this been discussed before, but why are obsessed with monkeys?

He's a monkey of life. Monke makes us complete

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

I only talk here now and then so idk if this been discussed before, but why are obsessed with monkeys?

So... You the one in my message wall on vsbw? Sir, we got him/her/they/it, shit pshh retreat, retreat!!! Wrong person, the evidence didn't say obssesed

um, how am I obsessed with monkeys?

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

This is the kind of predicament I've been waiting for!

In his quest for greater strength, Zoro puts himself in a tight spot. Victory or death! Believing that such an extreme situation will make him stronger! No matter the predicament he finds himself in, Zoro's faith remains unshaken. After his battle with Mihawk, his mind has gained even stronger willpower, and he is on fire in his insatiable quest for strength.

↓Happily tackle further ordeals. You can only become as strong as the number of times you have gone under the line of death.

Talking about Johnny Yosaku's brother

Aniki, you always bleed when you get cut, don't you? If he were a normal person, he would die instantly. But his brother Zoro heals himself just by falling asleep, so he really is a monster.

If you bleed so much, you'll really die.

Every time you bleed out, it's a sign of a deadly battle!

Mihawk battle
3L of blood loss

Buggy battle
1L of blood loss

Battle of the Nyaban brothers
1.5L of blood loss

Battle between Hatsu-chan and Aaron
5L of blood loss

 

[Romeu08]

Holy god how much blood this Man has

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Holy god how much blood this Man has

Yee... Which is why it's very impressive

Resistance to death manipulation

 

[Fireld]

Probably more blood than the entire Kill la Kill cast

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

So is that evidence that Zoro has Regen via sleeping? If he doesn't have it already.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

So is that evidence that Zoro has Regen via sleeping? If he doesn't have it already.

Already has it

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Probably more blood than the entire Kill la Kill cast

When the show has a low-key guro in KLK but a freaking marimo that has a lost syndrome has bazillion tons of blood

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/luffy-vs-kenshiro.135751/#post-4709465

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

brazillion tons of blood

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

@MonkeyOfLife

 

[KobsterHope07]

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

One of my favorite drawings of Gear 5 ever, has that joyous god feel to it, just honestly heavenly for me.

 

[Eseseso]

God, Gear 5 Luffy in the anime is gonna be a sight for the ages!

I wonder how Boa would react to seeing Gear 5 Luffy?

She'd likely nosebleed and think that now she'd be the wife of a God! XD