• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

One Piece: Building from Shit Foundations, Mid-High - High Tier Value Replacement

Status
Not open for further replies.
Now, let's get this straight. I'm not Arc or Damage. People who turn this thread into a "finally One Piece is getting downgraded" thread like the last one are getting thread banned with no hesitation and no warning past this one.
Not sure what the implication is here....


Anyway, so from the look of it most of the affected characters are scaling from 7-A to 6-C?
 
No idea for Sabo, Kyros, Burgess, or Diamante
Diamante would scale above Buffalo, since he put up somewhat of a fight agaisnt Kyros while Buffalo was instantly beaten. Buffalo is currently scaled as comperable to Baby 5. Or scale Diamante above Lao G like you did with Trebol.
Crocodile = base Doffy, so 4.3 gigatons
Wouldn't Crocodile scale to Doffy's Buso, since that would be needed that to touch his logia body? If Doffy didn't use armament, what would've stopped Crocodile from phasing his arm thru Doffy's leg to dehydrate him? He has no reason to hold back.
 
Wouldn't Crocodile scale to Doffy's Buso, since that would be needed that to touch his logia body? If Doffy didn't use armament, what would've stopped Crocodile from phasing his arm thru Doffy's leg to dehydrate him? He has no reason to hold back.
A Logia user like Crocodile wouldn't automatically phase if his intention was to hit him with his hook, which is what Crocodile tried to do.

He doesn't automatically dehydrate everyone he fights.
 
Diamante would scale above Buffalo, since he put up somewhat of a fight agaisnt Kyros while Buffalo was instantly beaten. Buffalo is currently scaled as comperable to Baby 5. Or scale Diamante above Lao G like you did with Trebol.

Wouldn't Crocodile scale to Doffy's Buso, since that would be needed that to touch his logia body? If Doffy didn't use armament, what would've stopped Crocodile from phasing his arm thru Doffy's leg to dehydrate him? He has no reason to hold back.
Even if that is true, Doffy's Buso now only scales above his 4.3 gigaton base.
 
1.
Hyouzou is no more than 473.36 megatons in base but above 1.89 gigatons with steroids (although IMO since he blocked G2 and was complimented by Luffy for it, he should at least be comparable in his base to Base Luffy)
What do people think of scaling Base Hyouzou's AP to being comparable to base Luffy due to him blocking G2 and Luffy complementing him?


2. This is what Luffy's scaling by arc will be:

Fishman Island to Dressrosa: 1.89 gigatons in base and G2, 7.57 gigatons with G3 and G4, and 30.295 gigatons with Strongest Attacks

Early WCI: 1.89 gigatons in Base and G2, 7.57 gigatons with G3 (ugh no change for Base or Gears 2 and 3, smh), 30.295 gigatons with G4, and 60.59 gigatons with Strongest attacks via scaling above Kong Bazooka.

Post Kata Fight: STILL 1.89 gigatons in Base and G2, 7.57 gigatons with Snakeman, 30.295 gigatons with G3 and G4, and 121.18 gigatons with Strongest Attacks via being 4x above G3.

Post Udon: 4.3 gigatons in Base via being Base Tobiroppo level for being comparable but inferior to Zoan Ulti, G2 scales above this, G3 is still 30.295 gigatons, and G4 and above is High 6-A so they're the same.


3. For Early Wano Sanji, since in this ongoing CRT I'm pushing that Raid Suit is an AP boost above Base and DJ Sanji, Early Wano Base and DJ Sanji will still only scale above their WCI selves (so 4.3 gigatons) while the Raid Suit in Early Wano is 30.295 gigatons.
 
Last edited:
What do people think of scaling Base Hyouzou's AP to being comparable to base Luffy due to him blocking G2 and Luffy complementing him?

Not strong enough evidence to say that he's comparable to base Luffy.
 
Not strong enough evidence to say that he's comparable to base Luffy.
I mean, Luffy complemented his strength, and he did block a G2 attack with no damage so he could downscale to Base similar to how we used to downscale Base Luffy for holding his own against G2 level people.
 
Oh crap, i forgot Burgess in scaling-chain. Sorry @Eseseso lets do this 1 last time...
-Buffalo's comperable to Baby. Diamante, his superior as a Top Executive, should be above them. Kyros is even stronger for beating both of them 1v1.
-Sabo's casually breaks Diamante's sword with a swing of his pipe. It took an angry Kyros much more effort, several clashes & a named attack in the end to do that.
-Jesus' Elbow Wave actually made Sabo use a named attack to counter it. Although Sabo shattered a layer of Burgess' armor, he didn't damage to Burgess himself, they had a haki clash & both of them have a few shaking lines. Burgess also forced Sabo to dodge on another occassion.
-In their rematch Burgess recovers despite getting kicked away off-guard on the face. Sabo proceeds to beat Burgess badly with the flame fruit and only reciving extremely minor damage from Burgess off-screen(1 really small scratch or 2 in the face ). Sabo admitted he was going let him escape anyway this in this fight, but in he last attack he was enraged which explains why skull is still damaged as of chapter 1063.
End of Dressrosa Sabo>>Burgess>Kyros>Diamante>Buffalo~Baby 5=No Haki Sai(1.98 Gigatons)
 
Last edited:
Oh crap, i forgot Burgess in scaling-chain. Sorry @Eseseso lets do this 1 last time...
-Buffalo's comperable to Baby. Diamante, his superior as a Top Executive, should be above them. Kyros is even stronger for beating both of them 1v1.
-Sabo's casually breaks Diamante's sword with a swing of his pipe. It took an angry Kyros much more effort, several clashes & a named attack in the end to do that.
-Jesus' Elbow Wave actually made Sabo use a named attack to counter it. Although Sabo shattered a layer of Burgess' armor, he didn't damage to Burgess himself, they had a haki clash & both of them have a few shaking lines. Burgess also forced Sabo to dodge on another occassion.
-In their rematch Burgess recovers despite getting kicked away off-guard on the face. Sabo proceeds to beat Burgess badly with the flame fruit and only reciving extremely minor damage from Burgess off-screen(1 really small scratch or 2 in the face ). Sabo admitted he was going let him escape anyway this in this fight, but in he last attack he was enraged which explains why skull is still damaged as of chapter 1063.
End of Dressrosa Sabo>>Burgess>Kyros>Diamante>Buffalo~Baby 5=No Haki Sai(1.98 Gigatons)
I basically mentioned most of that in the list when I edited it.
 
Also Hina gets downgraded to 1.89 gigatons via scaling above Tashigi, while Coby is 1.89 gigatons via being comparable to Tashigi post-TS.

Surume should scale above Base Wadatsumi to Baseline High 7-A (1 gigaton)
 
If that list up above from Eseseso is complete, I'm fine with applying the new ratings.
 
1.

What do people think of scaling Base Hyouzou's AP to being comparable to base Luffy due to him blocking G2 and Luffy complementing him?




3. For Early Wano Sanji, since in this ongoing CRT I'm pushing that Raid Suit is an AP boost above Base and DJ Sanji, Early Wano Base and DJ Sanji will still only scale above their WCI selves (so 4.3 gigatons) while the Raid Suit in Early Wano is 30.295 gigatons.
 
Also, I literally spent an hour on the scaling list and it's gonna now be for nothing if King changes the scaling with his calc(s), smh.
 
Wouldn't this resolving this current topic be better than introducing brand new calcs?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top