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Second this.
If Kaen Daiko involved haki like bajrang gun then I'd ignore it
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One Piece: High 6-A downgrade
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If Kaen Daiko involved haki like bajrang gun then I'd ignore it
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It's not unlikely that the statement is simply outdated by now. The verse has gone through a lot since the time that statement came out.
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If a random east blue fodder was given akainu's fruit would that make him scale to or over Kaito because he has the most offensive df?
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There's no single reason twhatsoever o believe that until Oda comes out and says otherwise.
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Y'all are confusing the shit out of yourselves.
The DF only has HIGHEST OFFENSE. It isn't the strongest devil fruit, it's just the highest AP devil fruit. Other Devil Fruits are more destructive, more hax, etc..
I've honestly zero interest arguing what ifs. If it's stated Akainu has the highest DEVIL FRUIT attack power, then that's that. Assuming it's outdated when no retcon of the sort was mentioned is nonsense.
Just because a DF has the highest offense doesn't mean that character's the "strongest" either. Haki isn't counted, physical ability isn't counted, etc..
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Let's drop all discussion about Akainu for now.
DaMonkeMan
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Now hold on guys. The Vivre Card claims, and I quote, " These two specialties [ His toughness and agility ] added together beget an attack power that is literally unrivaled. " thus he is a Top Tier above even Kaidou and Primebeard.
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No scaling here.Now hold on guys. The Vivre Card claims, and I quote, " These two specialties [ His toughness and agility ] added together beget an attack power that is literally unrivaled. " thus he is a Top Tier above even Kaidou and Primebeard.
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Aight I'm out
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Agree fully, I believed this for a while that it was weird to scale passively lifting an island to Akainu’s fruit having the highest destructive power
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He would scale to the generation of Kaen Daiko, not the force of Kaidou moving it around
It's like scaling Aokiji to the generation of ice, then saying if he was physically strong enough to lift said ice and toss it around, it'd be different
This is wrong all over
#1 you said that BOS Luffy would be as strong as his awakening.
#2 Luffy is a zoan. His power is transformation. The force applied from his attacks aren't in that bracket, they're his own physical force.
#3 The AP of a devil fruit does not depend on the user's mastery over it 100% of the time.
WB and BB had the same potency and different control.
Control is different, not strength
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Offensive power*
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It wasn't passive lifting he scaled to, it was moving the island horizontally to escape a storm
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He did not attack him with his devil fruit. Stop spreading misinformation by saying this
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I'm just saying that if he had a High 6-A weapon, he would've used it in the movie.
But I'll stop.
Switching to neutral on possibly High 6-A
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And I'm saying he doesn't have a High 6-A weapon
DaMonkeMan
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Anyway I agree with Possibly/Likely High 6-A.
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I am also neutral on possibly High 6-A, leaning towards removing it but fine w either option
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there is no way it will be a “likely”
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#1- Its an example of how mastery affects AP and when i said that was to prove the exact opposite.
#2- Gear third uses his devil fruit to increase his normal AP, gear 3 is a new way to use the devil fruit that he didnt knew about before, again mastery affects AP
#3- The point is his AP is affected by their mastery there are other factors like haki, physical characteristics, the type of attack among others but mastery does affect how powerful one is with his fruit.
BB already had one devil fruit, he studied all devil fruits and he saw WB using it for years that is the reason he managed to copy WB attacks by literally copying WB movements.
And thats not the point i was making, the point is unless you can prove Akainu archieved the highest level of mastery over his fruit then he isnt scaling to the possible higher limits of his fruit.
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Same
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To clarify, I'm in favor of just simply removing the High 6-A ratings with the exception of Bajrang Gun.
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Nvm I change my stance, I am in favor of removing High 6-A altogether (except for the Bajrang calc ofc)
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Remove high 6-A except for Bajrang Gun. No sense in keeping it if it’s an outlier, as I said before.
Also, if someone can just eat Akainu’s DF and one shot Kaido like Bajrang Gun did, then sure, he should scale.
Also, if someone can just eat Akainu’s DF and one shot Kaido like Bajrang Gun did, then sure, he should scale.
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Wouldn't Whitebeard's statement of having the strongest Paramecia kinda address Kachon's contentions with using Akainu's statement?.
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Actually i dont even think the feat its an outlier i think the size of onigashima its whats wrong which inflated the result
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I mean the whole basis of the High 6-A removal (or at least half of it) is that Shiki’s feats are way too high/an outlier.
Bajrang Gun is fine, but if it’s inflated then gg to that as well.
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Not too long ago a threat was made to make the onigashima size be changed because of how inconsistent the size of onigashima is drawn One piece fans kept denying which caused the thread to be closed. Its obvious the size is inflated the horn of onigashima is bigger than the entirety of Marineford base island
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Irrelevant to the thread.
I've seen you in no less than 5 threads talking about this when it has absolutely nothing to do with the topics being discussed. If you keep doing this I'll just report you. It's incredible annoying and it fills really important CRTs with useless fluff that isn't needed.
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Don't derail this thread.
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Thats wrong this subject come up in 2 maybe 3 threads
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I already reported him like a week ago for derailing and then blaming others for reacting to his derailment(s).
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