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One Piece: Building from Shit Foundations, Mid-High - High Tier Value Replacement
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Anyway, so from the look of it most of the affected characters are scaling from 7-A to 6-C?
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Diamante would scale above Buffalo, since he put up somewhat of a fight agaisnt Kyros while Buffalo was instantly beaten. Buffalo is currently scaled as comperable to Baby 5. Or scale Diamante above Lao G like you did with Trebol.
Wouldn't Crocodile scale to Doffy's Buso, since that would be needed that to touch his logia body? If Doffy didn't use armament, what would've stopped Crocodile from phasing his arm thru Doffy's leg to dehydrate him? He has no reason to hold back.
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A Logia user like Crocodile wouldn't automatically phase if his intention was to hit him with his hook, which is what Crocodile tried to do.
He doesn't automatically dehydrate everyone he fights.
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Even if that is true, Doffy's Buso now only scales above his 4.3 gigaton base.
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It's what I do.Eseseso just saved this verse
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Diamante still held his own and did a better job than Buffalo, so he still scales to 1.89 gigatons.
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2. This is what Luffy's scaling by arc will be:
Fishman Island to Dressrosa: 1.89 gigatons in base and G2, 7.57 gigatons with G3 and G4, and 30.295 gigatons with Strongest Attacks
Early WCI: 1.89 gigatons in Base and G2, 7.57 gigatons with G3 (ugh no change for Base or Gears 2 and 3, smh), 30.295 gigatons with G4, and 60.59 gigatons with Strongest attacks via scaling above Kong Bazooka.
Post Kata Fight: STILL 1.89 gigatons in Base and G2, 7.57 gigatons with Snakeman, 30.295 gigatons with G3 and G4, and 121.18 gigatons with Strongest Attacks via being 4x above G3.
Post Udon: 4.3 gigatons in Base via being Base Tobiroppo level for being comparable but inferior to Zoan Ulti, G2 scales above this, G3 is still 30.295 gigatons, and G4 and above is High 6-A so they're the same.
3. For Early Wano Sanji, since in this ongoing CRT I'm pushing that Raid Suit is an AP boost above Base and DJ Sanji, Early Wano Base and DJ Sanji will still only scale above their WCI selves (so 4.3 gigatons) while the Raid Suit in Early Wano is 30.295 gigatons.
What do people think of scaling Base Hyouzou's AP to being comparable to base Luffy due to him blocking G2 and Luffy complementing him?
2. This is what Luffy's scaling by arc will be:
Fishman Island to Dressrosa: 1.89 gigatons in base and G2, 7.57 gigatons with G3 and G4, and 30.295 gigatons with Strongest Attacks
Early WCI: 1.89 gigatons in Base and G2, 7.57 gigatons with G3 (ugh no change for Base or Gears 2 and 3, smh), 30.295 gigatons with G4, and 60.59 gigatons with Strongest attacks via scaling above Kong Bazooka.
Post Kata Fight: STILL 1.89 gigatons in Base and G2, 7.57 gigatons with Snakeman, 30.295 gigatons with G3 and G4, and 121.18 gigatons with Strongest Attacks via being 4x above G3.
Post Udon: 4.3 gigatons in Base via being Base Tobiroppo level for being comparable but inferior to Zoan Ulti, G2 scales above this, G3 is still 30.295 gigatons, and G4 and above is High 6-A so they're the same.
3. For Early Wano Sanji, since in this ongoing CRT I'm pushing that Raid Suit is an AP boost above Base and DJ Sanji, Early Wano Base and DJ Sanji will still only scale above their WCI selves (so 4.3 gigatons) while the Raid Suit in Early Wano is 30.295 gigatons.
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Not strong enough evidence to say that he's comparable to base Luffy.
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I mean, Luffy complemented his strength, and he did block a G2 attack with no damage so he could downscale to Base similar to how we used to downscale Base Luffy for holding his own against G2 level people.
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Also, I just finished the scaling list for all the characters that @KingTempest listed (plus Dice, who really needs a page since Baccarat has one already).
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Bruh, I suggested to you in the 1st place that Diamante>Buffalo, i'm OK with scaling him to that value. I only wanted to have Kyros>Diamante instead of them being straight up equals.
Also you forgot to remove this.
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Oh crap, i forgot Burgess in scaling-chain. Sorry @Eseseso lets do this 1 last time...
-Buffalo's comperable to Baby. Diamante, his superior as a Top Executive, should be above them. Kyros is even stronger for beating both of them 1v1.
-Sabo's casually breaks Diamante's sword with a swing of his pipe. It took an angry Kyros much more effort, several clashes & a named attack in the end to do that.
-Jesus' Elbow Wave actually made Sabo use a named attack to counter it. Although Sabo shattered a layer of Burgess' armor, he didn't damage to Burgess himself, they had a haki clash & both of them have a few shaking lines. Burgess also forced Sabo to dodge on another occassion.
-In their rematch Burgess recovers despite getting kicked away off-guard on the face. Sabo proceeds to beat Burgess badly with the flame fruit and only reciving extremely minor damage from Burgess off-screen(1 really small scratch or 2 in the face ). Sabo admitted he was going let him escape anyway this in this fight, but in he last attack he was enraged which explains why skull is still damaged as of chapter 1063.
End of Dressrosa Sabo>>Burgess>Kyros>Diamante>Buffalo~Baby 5=No Haki Sai(1.98 Gigatons)
-Buffalo's comperable to Baby. Diamante, his superior as a Top Executive, should be above them. Kyros is even stronger for beating both of them 1v1.
-Sabo's casually breaks Diamante's sword with a swing of his pipe. It took an angry Kyros much more effort, several clashes & a named attack in the end to do that.
-Jesus' Elbow Wave actually made Sabo use a named attack to counter it. Although Sabo shattered a layer of Burgess' armor, he didn't damage to Burgess himself, they had a haki clash & both of them have a few shaking lines. Burgess also forced Sabo to dodge on another occassion.
-In their rematch Burgess recovers despite getting kicked away off-guard on the face. Sabo proceeds to beat Burgess badly with the flame fruit and only reciving extremely minor damage from Burgess off-screen(1 really small scratch or 2 in the face ). Sabo admitted he was going let him escape anyway this in this fight, but in he last attack he was enraged which explains why skull is still damaged as of chapter 1063.
End of Dressrosa Sabo>>Burgess>Kyros>Diamante>Buffalo~Baby 5=No Haki Sai(1.98 Gigatons)
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I basically mentioned most of that in the list when I edited it.
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A bit oot
Where Fujitora scaled then?
Where Fujitora scaled then?
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Above G3 Luffy, so 7.57 gigatons
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Got a few calcs I wanna try using
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If that list up above from Eseseso is complete, I'm fine with applying the new ratings.
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Burgess' still missing from your scaling chain.
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Will any of them affect the scaling here?
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Added.
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Which ones?
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Yeah
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They're evaluated, I'll just make the thread now so you can see it
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Sorry if it seems like I'm rushing you.
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Hey, I spent like an hour late at night on that scaling list and it's gonna be for naught!
Consider my investment!
But yeah, I am sorry for being so pushy.
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No issue
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Wouldn't this resolving this current topic be better than introducing brand new calcs?
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I mean better to wait and see if the calcs affect scaling rather than do massive revisions only to redo them again a week later.
At least IMO
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It's calcs that affect pre timeskip, which directly affect this
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