Omni Man and Invincible (Invincible TV Show) Additions

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Mark and Nolan are the same race and his father and son, so they should share the same resistances, which includes:

• Resistance to Deconstruction: (Omni man seamlessly withstand lasers that disintegrate his targets)
• Resistance to Poison manipulation: (Viltrumites have resistance to drugs)
• Resistance to Mind manipulation: (Invincible resists mental possession from squid, he even later told the Emperor of Mars that it was thanks to the fact that he is a Viltrumite.) Note: This resistance is already present on Mark's profile, but not on Nolan's
• Resistance to Electricity and Magma manipulation: (Resists attacks from Magmaniac and an unknown supervillain) Note: Magma resistance is already present on Mark's profile, but not on Nolan's

Like their comic book counterparts, both should have Body Control/Enhanced Lung Capacity to be able to hold their breaths for a long time. Still related to this, it's written in their profiles that they can both hold their breaths for two weeks, but despite my two viewings of the show, I have no memory of that and I can't figure out find this statement.

EDIT:

• Limited Air Manipulation, Explosion and Temperature Manipulation for Omni-Man.
• Resistance to Temperature Manipulation (Invincible is immune to the extreme cold of Mount Everest and Mars and to the extreme heat of magma and atmospheric entry. Omni-man is immune to the extreme cold of Mount Everest and the deep space)

I'm not sure about this, but shouldn't the Viltrumites have limited biological manipulation? Nolan said Mark is almost a full-blooded Viltrumite because the Viltrumite DNA is pure.

I think a Verse-specific Powers and Abilities page for the Viltrumites will be necessary when other important Viltrumites from the series are introduced later in the show.

 

[AThe1412]

There we go! Now this makes much more sense than Homelander scaling to Soldier Boy. The lasers probably aren't deconstruction though. They could have simply completely vaporized people through pure AP which we do have calculations for...
9-A, Nolan being completely unbothered by them makes sense.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

I agree with this crt

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

There we go! Now this makes much more sense than Homelander scaling to Soldier Boy. The lasers probably aren't deconstruction though. They could have simply completely vaporized people through pure AP which we do have calculations for...
9-A, Nolan being completely unbothered by them makes sense.

I don't think it's from the AP, given the way the civilian was disintegrated

 

[Excellence616]

I agree

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Mark and Nolan are the same race and his father and son, so they should share the same resistances, which includes:

• Resistance to Deconstruction: (Omni man seamlessly withstand lasers that disintegrate his targets)

Disagree, it’s unknown whether this is due to high potency or actual deconstruction. Since there’s no statement of deconstruction it probably wouldn’t work.
And considering the beams are shown to generate a lot of smoke implies this is done through heat.

• Resistance to Poison manipulation: (Viltrumites have resistance to drugs)

Agree

• Resistance to Possession and Mind manipulation: (Invincible resists mental possession from squid, he even later told the Emperor of Mars that it was thanks to the fact that he is a Viltrumite.) Note: This resistance is already present on Mark's profile, but not on Nolan's

Sure

• Resistance to Electricity and Magma manipulation: (Resists attacks from Magmaniac and an unknown supervillain) Note: Magma resistance is already present on Mark's profile, but not on Nolan's

Agree

Like their comic book counterparts, both should have Body Control/Enhanced Lung Capacity to be able to hold their breaths for a long time. Still related to this, it's written in their profiles that they can both hold their breaths for two weeks, but despite my two viewings of the show, I have no memory of that and I can't figure out find this statement.

Agree

I'm not sure about this, but shouldn't the Viltrumites have limited biological manipulation? Nolan said Mark is almost a full-blooded Viltrumite because the Viltrumite DNA is pure.

Disagree. That isn’t biological manipulation

 

[AThe1412]

I don't think it's from the AP, given the way the civilian was disintegrated

Look closely. The guy who got shot didn't get instantly or completely disintegrated. There was still a charred corpse left behind.

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Bump

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

TimmyTurnero makes sense

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

I forgot the resistance to temperature manipulation: Invincible resists the heat of atmospheric entry

 

[AThe1412]

I agree with most of these stuff except for Resistance to Deconstruction and Biological Manipulation.

I forgot the resistance to temperature manipulation: Invincible resists the heat of atmospheric entry

I also agree with this.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

I forgot the resistance to temperature manipulation: Invincible resists the heat of atmospheric entry

Seems fine

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Seems fine

Should I wait for the opinion of another staff members to apply the additions?

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Should I wait for the opinion of another staff members to apply the additions?

At least one Thread Mod, Admin or Bureaucrat

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Still related to this, it's written in their profiles that they can both hold their breaths for two weeks, but despite my two viewings of the show, I have no memory of that and I can't figure out find this statement.

And for that ? Does anyone have proof of this? Or do I remove it from the profiles?

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

I forgot the resistance to temperature manipulation: Invincible resists the heat of atmospheric entry

I mean that also goes hand in hand with resisting Magma as well

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

Also wouldn't Omni man flying fast enough to cause nuclear fusion via air friction be justification for and extremely high level of heat resistance?

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Also wouldn't Omni man flying fast enough to cause nuclear fusion via air friction be justification for and extremely high level of heat resistance?

Doesn’t look like nuclear fusion, we see that the buildings he crash into explode after contact and that’s what we see here.

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

Doesn’t look like nuclear fusion, we see that the buildings he crash into explode after contact and that’s what we see here.

This is pretty clearly meant to represent Nuclear Fusion

 

[TimmyTurnero]

This is pretty clearly meant to represent Nuclear Fusion

Oh I didn’t even watch the video. Not sure if we can get nuclear fusion without a statement but explosion manipulation definitely works

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

Oh I didn’t even watch the video. Not sure if we can get nuclear fusion without a statement but explosion manipulation definitely works

I mean its heavily, heavily implied and we don't need a statement of atmospheric re-entry speeds in order to count atmospheric re-entry as heat resistance so I don't see what would be the problem with this

 

[TimmyTurnero]

I mean its heavily, heavily implied and we don't need a statement of atmospheric re-entry speeds in order to count atmospheric re-entry as heat resistance so I don't see what would be the problem with this

Im referring to the nuclear fusion

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Also wouldn't Omni man flying fast enough to cause nuclear fusion via air friction be justification for and extremely high level of heat resistance?

What about the radiations ?

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

What about the radiations ?

I'm not sure

 

[Cropfist]

Also wouldn't Omni man flying fast enough to cause nuclear fusion via air friction be justification for and extremely high level of heat resistance?

The series may follow the comic where extreme heat will be a weakness for Viltrumites.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

The series may follow the comic where extreme heat will be a weakness for Viltrumites.

I mean, the series maybe use something like the heat of the supernova

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

The series may follow the comic where extreme heat will be a weakness for Viltrumites.

At this point no specific weakness to heat has been mentioned so we scale them based on what we see them survive

In this case Nolan was fine flying at speeds fast enough it incite nuclear fusion

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Im referring to the nuclear fusion

^

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

^

Yeah its a comparison

Its one one those things you can use visual confirmation for such as Mach cones for faster than sound speeds

Obviously this is a bit more uncommon than Mach cones but the logic still applies as we can reasonably assume this was the intent of the scene

The intent being showing nuclear fusion through extreme speed which is a somewhat popular science fact that has been embedded into pop culture just like the multiverse theory

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

So if I summarize.

Omni Man:

Temperature and Explosion manipulation (Can cause nuclear fusion via its sheer speed)
Body Control/Enhanced Lung Capacity (Can hold his breath in space and the sea for a long time. Can easily breathe at the top of Mount Everest and in the Mesosphere, two places where oxygen is low)

Resistance to Poison, Disease, Radiations and Nanotechnology (Viltrumites cells resist drugs, viruses, bacteria, prions, radiation and nanobots)
Resistance to Mind Manipulation (Viltrumites resist mind control from squids)
Resistance to Temperature Manipulation (Omni man is immune to the extreme cold of Mount Everest and deep space. Via scaling with his son)
Resistance to Electricity and Magma Manipulation (Via scaling with his son)

Invincible:

Body Control/Enhanced Lung Capacity (Can hold his breath in space and the sea for a long time. Can easily breathe at the top of Mount Everest and in the Mesosphere, two places where oxygen is low)

Resistance to Poison, Disease, Radiations and Nanotechnology (Viltrumites cells resist drugs, viruses, bacteria, prions, radiation and nanobots)
Resistance to Mind Manipulation (Viltrumites resist mind control from squids)
Resistance to Temperature Manipulation (Invincible is immune to the extreme cold of Mount Everest and to the extreme heat of magma and atmospheric entry)
Resistance to Electricity and Magma Manipulation (Resists attacks from Magmaniac and an unknown electric super villain)

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

and to the extreme heat it produces to cause nuclear fusion

and to the extreme heat of magma and atmospheric entry

How hot are these things btw?

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Bump

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Omni Man:

Temperature and Explosion manipulation (Can cause nuclear fusion via its sheer speed)
Body Control/Enhanced Lung Capacity (Can hold his breath in space and the sea for a long time. Can easily breathe at the top of Mount Everest and in the Mesosphere, two places where oxygen is low)

Resistance to Poison, Disease, Radiations and Nanotechnology (Viltrumites cells resist drugs, viruses, bacteria, prions, radiation and nanobots)
Resistance to Mind Manipulation (Viltrumites resist mind control from squids)
Resistance to Temperature Manipulation (Omni man is immune to the extreme cold of Mount Everest and deep space and to the extreme heat it produces to cause nuclear fusion)
Resistance to Electricity and Magma Manipulation (Via scaling with his son)

Also Limited Air Manipulation

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Also wouldn't Omni man flying fast enough to cause nuclear fusion via air friction be justification for and extremely high level of heat resistance?

Did you mean Nuclear Fission btw? That's what causes nuclear explosions, right? And is the resistance still valid despite the fact that Omni-Man is not present during the explosions?

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

Did you mean Nuclear Fission btw? That's what causes nuclear explosions, right? And is the resistance still valid despite the fact that Omni-Man is not present during the explosions?

No, he is going so fast that the particles run into each other and fuse which is the basis of fusion

This is the video that popularized the idea of fictional characters causing fusion by moving very fast and what Omni-man spontaneously generating nuclear blast shaped explosions is supposed to represent

By the way if we were to put hard numbers to Mark and Nolans Heat and Cold resistance


Mark would be at least over 3000 Celsius via resisting a meteor entering the earth at re-entry speeds also he has an additional justification of being able to resist magma which is 1500 Celsius
As for cold we can comfortably say at least -27.5 Celsius via averaging the temperature of the top of mount Everest which they were casually chilling at or -60 Celsius based on mark sleeping on Mars surface for an extended amount of time.

I heard that using space for Cold Resist is no longer a thing but if we did he'd be at -270 Celsius

Nolan would be the same as Mark plus the whole fusion feat which would give us a staggering heat resistance of 100 million Kelvin or 99999726.85 Celsius

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

No, he is going so fast that the particles run into each other and fuse which is the basis of fusion

This is the video that popularized the idea of fictional characters causing fusion by moving very fast and what Omni-man spontaneously generating nuclear blast shaped explosions is supposed to represent

By the way if we were to put hard numbers to Mark and Nolans Heat and Cold resistance


Mark would be at least over 3000 Celsius via resisting a meteor entering the earth at re-entry speeds also he has an additional justification of being able to resist magma which is 1500 Celsius
As for cold we can comfortably say at least -27.5 Celsius via averaging the temperature of the top of mount Everest which they were casually chilling at or -60 Celsius based on mark sleeping on Mars surface for an extended amount of time.

I heard that using space for Cold Resist is no longer a thing but if we did he'd be at -270 Celsius

Nolan would be the same as Mark plus the whole fusion feat which would give us a staggering heat resistance of 100 million Kelvin or 99999726.85 Celsius

It's great.

For the space thing, I heard that this could only apply if the character travels in deep space, at least for a long time (which is the case for Omni Man)

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

or -60 Celsius based on mark sleeping on Mars surface for an extended amount of time.

What about the Moon? Mark has been there twice, and according to this link the Moon reaches temperatures of -130°C at night

Edit: Mark went to the Moon during the day, so no we can't use this feat

 

[TimmyTurnero]

No, he is going so fast that the particles run into each other and fuse which is the basis of fusion

This is the video that popularized the idea of fictional characters causing fusion by moving very fast and what Omni-man spontaneously generating nuclear blast shaped explosions is supposed to represent

By the way if we were to put hard numbers to Mark and Nolans Heat and Cold resistance


Mark would be at least over 3000 Celsius via resisting a meteor entering the earth at re-entry speeds also he has an additional justification of being able to resist magma which is 1500 Celsius
As for cold we can comfortably say at least -27.5 Celsius via averaging the temperature of the top of mount Everest which they were casually chilling at or -60 Celsius based on mark sleeping on Mars surface for an extended amount of time.

I heard that using space for Cold Resist is no longer a thing but if we did he'd be at -270 Celsius

Nolan would be the same as Mark plus the whole fusion feat which would give us a staggering heat resistance of 100 million Kelvin or 99999726.85 Celsius

I still think we should ask staff if that qualifies for nuclear fision

 

[AceOfSpaces3709]

The series may follow the comic where extreme heat will be a weakness for Viltrumites.

Viltrumites aren't weak to Extreme Heat, they can only withstand it for short amounts of time. Near the end of the series Mark and Thragg were able to withstand the surface of the sun for several minutes, with the latter still continuing to fight even after his body was burnt down to flesh and bone. As kinda mentioned above, weakness to extreme heat is contradicted by Mark and Nolan withstanding orbital re-entry, flying fast enough to ignite the air, and punching through magma. So it's still resistance

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

What about the Moon? Mark has been there twice, and according to this link the Moon reaches temperatures of -130°C at night

Edit: Mark went to the Moon during the day, so no we can't use this feat

Also it was on the equator which is like 230 celsius on average

The reason I used Mars is because Mark was on it and extended amount of time and there's a pretty good chance he experienced at least average temperatures while he was sleeping behind a hill

I still think we should ask staff if that qualifies for nuclear fision

That's fine (Also it's Fusion)

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