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Invincible tv series upgrade
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Jason_Courne
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The G1 Death Battle fan blog put it at like mountain busting iirc
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I think we should calc it. Would decent results.
Jason_Courne
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I did my own calculation and got Mountain level+ to Island level to Island level+
Just gotta wait for approval
Just gotta wait for approval
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If this is accepted then Low 6-B Omni man is so consistent it's not even funny
It'd also be based because we could put him up against DCEU Superman
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Psycho commented on it
Jason_Courne
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Updated the calculation due to Psychomaster's suggestions, now it's Large Mountain level to Island level to Large Island level
So Tier 6 Omni-Man looks incredibly consistent
So Tier 6 Omni-Man looks incredibly consistent
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I was just going by the profile, but I pretty much agree with that.
So 7-A+ all around with his enraged power being High 7-A?
Yeah I believe Low 6-B should be fine at this point.
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If the calcs are accepted, I agree with the upgrades
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Just for ease of use. The accepted calculations are:
7-A and 6-C. (7-A is for Mark and anyone who scales to him. The 6-C value is a supporting feat for Omni-Man who called the asteroid small)
High 7-A to High 6-C. (Supporting feats for Omni-Man)
Low 6-B (Omni-Man's main rating)
Something like this looks alright to everyone?
7-A and 6-C. (7-A is for Mark and anyone who scales to him. The 6-C value is a supporting feat for Omni-Man who called the asteroid small)
High 7-A to High 6-C. (Supporting feats for Omni-Man)
Low 6-B (Omni-Man's main rating)
Something like this looks alright to everyone?
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You believe he should scale to Omni-Man somewhat?
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Only when enraged. He should downscale since after he got enraged, he could make Omni-Man stagger and even bleed. Mark is shown to get stronger whenever he gets angrier.
Though it shouldn't apply to his base stats since several times throughout the fight Omni-Man could easily overpower Mark, while this is the one time Mark got an upper hand.
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Actually I adjusted it a bit, since Omni-Man's Low 6-B is baseline, Enraged Mark would downscale to High 6-C+
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I'll agree with what everyone else decides. Though Omni-Man's feat is baseline as hell, so High 6-C+ would indeed works best for an enraged Mark in that case.
But I feel like making someone bleed like that in Invincible is kind of iffy, when Titan could make Battle Beast bleed with his blows yet was defeated by base Mark. Battle Beast easily overpowered an enraged Mark and said he disappoints him. And anyone who knows the comic has an idea on how strong Battle Beast will likely be.
Both Mark and Titan didn't leave any actual damage on Omni-Man or Battle Beast.
Also blood only showed up once in his barrage of attacks and Omni-Man didn't actually seem like he was hurt by it. In fact that could've been the blood on Mark's fist flying off from hitting Omni-Man. He's staggering him but Omni-Man isn't even trying to resist and has no damage after all of those hits.
Later we see an angry Mark fail to even stagger Omni-Man. I'm not certain if that is enough for scaling right now.
But like I said I'll agree with what everyone else says. I believe I've said my piece on this.
But I feel like making someone bleed like that in Invincible is kind of iffy, when Titan could make Battle Beast bleed with his blows yet was defeated by base Mark. Battle Beast easily overpowered an enraged Mark and said he disappoints him. And anyone who knows the comic has an idea on how strong Battle Beast will likely be.
Both Mark and Titan didn't leave any actual damage on Omni-Man or Battle Beast.
Also blood only showed up once in his barrage of attacks and Omni-Man didn't actually seem like he was hurt by it. In fact that could've been the blood on Mark's fist flying off from hitting Omni-Man. He's staggering him but Omni-Man isn't even trying to resist and has no damage after all of those hits.
Later we see an angry Mark fail to even stagger Omni-Man. I'm not certain if that is enough for scaling right now.
But like I said I'll agree with what everyone else says. I believe I've said my piece on this.
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Ngl, don’t think Mark scales to Nolan at this point and Rusty explains this pretty well.
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I don't think Mark's rage has a fixed point. It seems to vary depending on how angry he is. Which is why I stated "Up to High 6-C"
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Then we should change the reasoning to mark being able to knock out Hail Mary’s tooth or something
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Does anyone have a problem with labeling Marks Durability as High 7-A?
Hs durability scales a decent amount above his attacks
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Seems fine
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But his rage didn't make him stronger against Battle Beast.
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As I said, his rage seemingly varies. And he said wasn't definitely angrier with his dad calling his mom worthless than him getting his ass whooped by Battle Beast
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I'm confused
Someone explain to me why texas sized asteroid is an issue?
Someone explain to me why texas sized asteroid is an issue?
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He said he redirected it which is vague
We also don't know how long he took to do that
Any calc we use would ultimately be guesswork
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Multiple instances of Mark tanking damage from those he's equal with in a fistfight
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He still grunts and is clearly from their attacks. And he can still harm people who can harm him.
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So does Omniman from alot of fodder yet we don't put him lower because of that (Robots, Immortal)
It's pretty dang consistent through-out the show that Invincible gets knocked around alot but doesn't actually take that much damage
That's why when we do see him take actual damage (Battle Beast) it's a shocking moment
Also he doesn't need AP on the level of his durability to fight characters weaker than his durability
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Apologies for coming back so late, was preoccupied. What are we discussing right now? Mark's durability?
Is there anything to suggest he's more durable than he is strong? I'd like an actual explanation, not just a link to some moment in the show.
I've seen the show multiple times as this point, you don't need to link anything. Just say a certain moment and I can easily check it for myself.
Because we have no idea how he took care of it beyond saying he redirect it.
We don't know if he did it easily and casually in less than one second, or if he struggled more like Mark did against this small asteroid, or maybe he struggled more.
Maybe he stopped it and threw it away or maybe he changed its course, both would still fit his statement of redirecting it.
Is there anything to suggest he's more durable than he is strong? I'd like an actual explanation, not just a link to some moment in the show.
I've seen the show multiple times as this point, you don't need to link anything. Just say a certain moment and I can easily check it for myself.
Because we have no idea how he took care of it beyond saying he redirect it.
We don't know if he did it easily and casually in less than one second, or if he struggled more like Mark did against this small asteroid, or maybe he struggled more.
Maybe he stopped it and threw it away or maybe he changed its course, both would still fit his statement of redirecting it.
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Why would any of that be an Anti-feat for Omni-Man, plus Immortal is clearly on a similar level to Omni-Man albeit lower.
All of them are significantly weaker than he is and can only do true harm via ganging up on him. Plus we see this case again of Invinicble being able to harm people on his level in the Cyborg fight, who can draw blood from Invincible.
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The only thing that might prove marks higher durability would be his fight with Hail Mary and even then he straight up knocked it’s tooth out off it’s mouth
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Nice supporting feat for Omniman
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Omni-Man Destroys a surprisingly large Space Station
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Bump
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ok so what’s the general consensus so far on the upgrade?
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That Low 6-B for Omniman is no longer an outlier
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Cool, and for mark?
Jason_Courne
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Mark gets 7-A+ possibly High 7-A via rage boosts (however the rage boost are coming under question)
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Mark should just scale to baseline High 7-A entirely and get higher with rage boosts
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