Yeah the scan doesn't make it clear that it is from the official Naruto website so I wanted to add the website too.
So are you in agreement with the premise of this thread? The novels will only be used as secondary support materials for already existing events in the Manga. The discussion about novel only feats can be done at a later thread with @DavidTPPM if that's okay.
Yes, I'm in agreement with the premise of the thread.
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It's not a contradiction though. If the anime or Manga outright said Momoshiki can't create such black holes then it would be a contradiction but them just leaving that information out does not mean that he can't do it.
Sure, no problem ig.
Yes, it still would be a contradiction. We are talking about literal events that never took place in the new primary interaction. Here's an example
Seriously...? Well, one main problem here is that you forget, Momoshiki literally possesses the physicality to preform a simple backflip. The event of Momoshiki doing the backflip didn't happen in the other media but given he's still a superhuman individual in a verse filled with characters who are easily capable of performing simple backflip so it's still logical. So this argument doesn't work, while the visual event not happening contradicts what happened in the other iteration as it doesn't exist, it's a minor event that one can still find logical to happen. Creating a black hole on the other hand is not as simple as doing a backflip, not everyone throws out literal black holes willy nilly in Naruto.
Thank you
Yea, thought there was going to be more resistance
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Wait you meant you disagreement that seriously? I thought you were just showing disinterest. That's WILD for an admin I'm ngl…
Nothing we can do
Given that this is a potentially big change to a mainstream series and that there's now 1 admin disagreement (
) more than 2 votes might be necessary I think
Don't know, I am new here so I don't know how many votes are needed
I mean, yeah that's the problem. And this is at least the second time I've had a problem like this here
. But whatever. Nothing new Well 2? Ig its going to take a long time then.Given that this is a potentially big change to a mainstream series and that there's now 1 admin disagreement (
AddedI mean, yeah that's the problem. And this is at least the second time I've had a problem like this here
Anyway you can add me as agreeing, idk if you already did
There's already 2 staff approvals and 1 disagreement…
The OP literally debunks all of this…
I'm pretty sure there was a discussion at some point to split the anime & manga continuities and split the profiles apart. Can't remember if that went through but it was definitely on the table.
There is no reason not to use the novel as supporting material for the anime and manga, especially when there are only minor/cosmetic differences between two iterations. Kishimoto was involved in the making of the movie as a executive producer, the official nard site also lists the novels as cannon, what is there to disagree about other then this leading to potential upgrades in the future?
I don't see any statements on the status of canonicity on the Naruto website. It just looks like a collection of all the different Naruto books & comics, including gag manga like Rock Lee & Pals. That same section of the website that the Boruto movie novelization is in also has novelizations for all the other Shippuden movies.
Maybe? I'm pretty new here. It doesn't exactly matter because the point is still the same. The differences were clearly not enough to consider everything retconned or a different timeline, and even if they could be now, that's probably just because the story is actually having major differences (Saradas rank, jougans existence, Saradas tomoe number, etc). And as far as I'm concerned they're not split yet so any discussion that was held isn't exactly relevant to the topic here.
most of them are credit to Kishimoto and him having some sort of involvement, and these movies happed to be considered cannon on the wiki like the last
Nobody is trying to canonize things exclusive to the novel, but rather use certain statements and descriptions from the novel to support the things said/shown in the anime/manga.
It's not about being on the website. It's about the official website crediting Kishimoto as the Exec Producer (which is btw not the case with Rock Lee and his pals). That indicates that he had all of the control in making the movie according to his vision. Which is why the anime follows so closely to the movie. And any changes done in the anime were done to give Ikemoto an opportunity at changing the designs since he is the artist now. But that doesn't change the fact that the story remains intact between the two. And since we never got a novelization of the anime Momoshiki arc, we need the movie Novelization to add context and paint a clearer picture of what Kishimoto wanted to portray. This isn't like the non canon movies where the story is contradicted by the primary canon. This adds to it which is why there is no reason to not consider it canon. The whole concept of canon was introduced because various forms of media start to contradict the story of the manga. That is not the case here.
I'm just pointing this out but can multiple people not respond to Damage's comment. Debating multiple people at once is not ideal and it causes issues. I ask that only the OP response to questions regarding their thread and when not available, another user can explain the point if needed. This same thing happened on many other threads and it's not productive. To be clear, no one is in trouble, I just rather someone not be swarmed with multiple comments from different members that aren't required.
Do you mind giving any examples?
