NNT CRT (Part 2)

[speedster352]

Unlike Itachi's flames, Hellblaze isn't shown to burn up stronger characters. Both Dale and Heavy Metal Drole have resisted it.

That was heavy metal and the functions are similar since they are both black flames that don't go out and can burn things naturally resistant to fire.

 

[ByAsura]

Neither of those have anything to do with Itachi's justifications, especially the fact that they're black flames.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

the functions are similar since they are both black flames that don't go out and can burn things naturally resistant to fire.

With that kind of logic dozens of verses would have random powers and abilities from other verses regardless of context just because "they are similar"

This is the same thing you tried to do with Ominous Nebula and Deva Path's abilities.

 

[speedster352]

With that kind of logic dozens of verses would have random powers and abilities from other verses regardless of context just because "they are similar"

This is the same thing you tried to do with Ominous Nebula and Deva Path's abilities.

Alright never mind then is everything else on the crt good?

 

[speedster352]

Neither of those have anything to do with Itachi's justifications, especially the fact that they're black flames.

Well if there are no further objections when can the changes be applied?

 

[ByAsura]

Anyone else have anything to say about the other powers?

 

[Rabbit2002]

I guess there's no one else, maybe we just wait until tomorrow if no one disagrees we will make a change

 

[speedster352]

That doesn't matter, especially since Meliodas was more powerful than it. The attack has to be capable of deconstructing him in the first place.

When does Purgatory deconstruct beings? It certainly didn't deconstruct Merlin's father.

According to Merlin, Purgatory is an infinite, chaotic, hellish spacetime where mutilated souls and predatory monsters seek prey, the air is scorching hot and freezing cold at the same time and the earth is toxic, together destroying the flesh and bone of the living.

 

[ByAsura]

Maybe it could be, then. But we didn't see the person who actually said this having their flesh and bone destroyed.

 

[speedster352]

Maybe it could be, then. But we didn't see the person who actually said this having their flesh and bone destroyed.

It was merlin explaining purgatory and it says any living thing. Anyway is possible to give zeldris' ominous nebula limited attack reflection since it reflected escanor's cruels sun back at him and his strike with rhitta here and here

 

[ByAsura]

It was Merlin quoting her father directly.

Neither of those are attack reflection. The first is just him repelling Escanor's strike, the second is Escanor's attack going in all directions and fizzling off Zeldris due to his magic immunity.

 

[speedster352]

It was Merlin quoting her father directly.

Neither of those are attack reflection. The first is just him repelling Escanor's strike, the second is Escanor's attack going in all directions and fizzling off Zeldris due to his magic immunity.

Okay never mind then

 

[speedster352]

It was Merlin quoting her father directly.

Neither of those are attack reflection. The first is just him repelling Escanor's strike, the second is Escanor's attack going in all directions and fizzling off Zeldris due to his magic immunity.

Should doll gowther be standard equipment for demon gowther or optional equipment? Also, should king have bfr via Oslo?

 

[ByAsura]

Sure.

No.

 

[speedster352]

Sure.

No.

Anyway since a day has passed and no one has rebutted anything the changes can be applied. How is the sandbox going?

 

[ByAsura]

I can't add them today.

Sandbox is going okay. It's just some of the Flash stuff.

 

[speedster352]

I can't add them today.

Sandbox is going okay. It's just some of the Flash stuff.

Maybe someone else can make the changes like the op. Open the profiles when the op is online.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

How about listing all the stuff that's been accepted first before doing any changes.

 

[ByAsura]

I'm getting off my PC soon, so no can do.

 

[speedster352]

I'm getting off my PC soon, so no can do.

Also do demons from NNT have unholy manipulation?

 

[speedster352]

How about listing all the stuff that's been accepted first before doing any changes.

All the things in the op seems to be fine

 

[ByAsura]

I don't know. I didn't even realise that was a power until now.

All the things in the op seems to be fine

Some of them have been debunked, like resistance to deconstruction.

 

[speedster352]

I don't know. I didn't even realise that was a power until now.

What are you talking about?

 

[ByAsura]

Unholy Manipulation.

 

[speedster352]

I don't know. I didn't even realise that was a power until now.

Some of them have been debunked, like resistance to deconstruction.

i thought you said it was fine since ark dencructs the target and it's on the goddess clan blog

 

[speedster352]

Unholy Manipulation.

I think demons should have unholy manipulation

 

[ByAsura]

i thought you said it was fine since ark dencructs the target and it's on the goddess clan blog

oh yeah.

 

[speedster352]

oh yeah.

Any luck bringing up NNT lifting strengh?

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

All the things in the op seems to be fine

As ByAsura said:

Some of them have been debunked

 

[speedster352]

As ByAsura said:

Can you list them?

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Can you list them?

BYASURA SEEMS TO APPROVE

Rabbit2002 said:
Non-Physical Interaction: Can affect non-substance being and Meliodas's emotion.

BA:
It says no definite form. I don't think that means they have no form at all, just no fixed form. Also, Meliodas' emotions can be interacted with by anyone.

RABBIT:
I'm not saying it has no form, I mean the foreign purgatory creature has the ability to be Intangibility, so normal interaction is impossible

Immaterial: This type of intangibility allows the user to phase through most attacks due to not being made up of a physical substance

BA:
I didn't see substance, but I'm also getting a lot of different things from different translations. So I'll check the raws when the site works.

Edit: Couldn't get a clear result, but it seems so.

ONLY ARCHANGELS SHOULD GET IT

Rabbit2002 said:
Resistance to Mind Manipulation and Soul Manipulation: Scale from Merlin who could resistant Cusack's Resonant.

BA:
It's stated that the Archangels have blessings, not an average goddess.

RABBIT:
Should high rank Goddess get it ?

BA:
Archangels are all we can confirm.

RABBIT:
Well, I guess we should remove it in physiology page

YOU:
Maybe you don't have to remove it you could specify that only archangels get the resistance

DECONSTRUCTION NEEDS MORE INPUT
NEW TOPIC DENIED

Rabbit2002 said:
Resistance to Deconstruction: Survived Hendrickson's dark nebula.

BA:
Unless it bypasses durability, I don't think that should be the case.

Other than that, these should be fine.

YOU:
Well Meliodas extremely weakened survived dark nebula to protect Elizabeth and should have that resistance for surviving purgatory.

BA:
That doesn't matter, especially since Meliodas was more powerful than it. The attack has to be capable of deconstructing him in the first place.

When does Purgatory deconstruct beings? It certainly didn't deconstruct Merlin's father.

YOU:
Alright then we can remove it then so everything else is fine can it be added or do we need more input

YOU:
According to Merlin, Purgatory is an infinite, chaotic, hellish spacetime where mutilated souls and predatory monsters seek prey, the air is scorching hot and freezing cold at the same time and the earth is toxic, together destroying the flesh and bone of the living.

BA:
Maybe it could be, then. But we didn't see the person who actually said this having their flesh and bone destroyed.

YOU:
It was merlin explaining purgatory and it says any living thing. (NEW TOPIC) Anyway is possible to give zeldris' ominous nebula limited attack reflection since it reflected escanor's cruels sun back at him and his strike with rhitta here and here

BA:

It was Merlin quoting her father directly.

(NEW TOPIC) Neither of those are attack reflection. The first is just him repelling Escanor's strike, the second is Escanor's attack going in all directions and fizzling off Zeldris due to his magic immunity.

YOU:

Okay never mind then

NEEDS MORE INPUT

Rabbit2002 said:
Every fairies king should get disease manipulation, and poison manipulation, Status Effect Inducement, Plant Manipulation, Pain Manipulation via via disaster.

TECHMASTER:
Gloxinia and Dahlia shouldn't get this just because King has it. The scan even says it's King's original power, and neither Gloxinia nor Dahlia have displayed any abilities related to Disaster. The only thing that remotely implies the other two could have it is the part where it says "it's a fitting magic for the Fairy King who must thin out his forest in order to maintain and rule it." So disagree here.

BA:
I checked, and I couldn't find any references to Dhalia or Gloxinia having Disaster. Maybe it's in a guide somewhere.

The chapter that the wiki links as evidence just says that King draws out all of his weapon's qualities via Disaster. But none of them use the same weapon.

AETHER:
Gloxinia should get it because of he make jumanju just like original disaster description (control over life and death of plant)

And dahlia also already show it by like this
(Matter manipulation) like king do to meliodas status promotion

BA:
Was Dahlia amplifying an existing injury?

AETHER:
I don't know clearly because the wound inflicted is from the demon collar

TECHMASTER:
Gloxinia has never displayed any abilities of Disaster, though, is the thing.

I don't really see how that's Status Promotion, but I don't really know how else he could have killed the demon, so I'm more or less indifferent to this.

NEEDS MORE INPUT

Rabbit2002 said:
Replace Boddy Puppetry with Mind Manipulation and Soul Manipulation: This ability allows Cusack to link with someone through eyesight. When activated, his eye and the eye of his target glow the same color and the person does the same movements as Cusack control in their mind.

TECHMASTER:
Don't see why Body Puppetry should be replaced instead of having Mind Manip be placed alongside it? I dunno where you got Soul Manip from with this

Everything else is either fine or Asura has already spoken my thoughts on it

RABBIT:
Chandler said resornate can take over the soul of victims

NEEDS MORE INPUT

Rabbit2002 said:
Decontruction: via Dark Nebula

RABBIT:
Forgot to say, this should scale to all Grey Demon

NEEDS MORE INPUT

YOU:
Shouldn't disater that king has get durabity negation or limited durabity negation since it worked on cains bones directly.

YOU:
Here like I said it can be limited dura neg since he can amplify existing injuries

NEEDS MORE INPUT

AETHER:
Should we add mind manipulation to high rank demon, from this and this? After fraudrin possesed hendy and move to Dreyfus, hendrickson still under control of fraudrin

BA:
It says spell in the second scan, so maybe it's specific to Fraudrin.

NEEDS MORE INPUT

Rabbit2002 said:
I guess it's worth upgrading the resistance negation for him since he can ignite Izarf's armory which is resistant to purgatory fire.

JIBZ:
Using a different kind of fire to ignite an armour resistant to another different kind of fire shouldn't be resistant negation unless there's some inverse shenanigans involved.

BYASURA SEEMS TO APPROVE

YOU:
I just remembered demons can withstand ark which also have deconstruction on the goddess clan physiology blog so they can get resistance to deconstruction.

BA:
Sure.

LIMITED DURABILITY NEGATION NEEDS MORE INPUT
NEW TOPIC DENIED

YOU:
I been thinking maybe godesses can get limited durability negation against demons only

YOU:
Since they can deconstruct and erase them from existence

AETHER:
It's already can erase them, why does it need limited durability negation again?

YOU:
Never mind then it's just super effective on demons

AETHER:
I don't think it like that, hendrickson still can use purge to affect ludociel tho. as we know the druid race can use purge, and it's also a kind of ark technique but downgrade version
Yeah i think limited durability negation for demon doesn't seem necessary, because it's still effective for other than demons

YOU:
So limited durability negation then? (NEW TOPIC) I am also wondering why doesn't hellblaze has limited durability negation like Amaterasu that Sasuke and Itachi have?

BA:
(NEW TOPIC) Unlike Itachi's flames, Hellblaze isn't shown to burn up stronger characters. Both Dale and Heavy Metal Drole have resisted it.

AETHER:
(NEW TOPIC) Iirc Drole after tanked hellblaze with heavy metal still have side effect damaged weakened and around his body appears like steam

BA:
(NEW TOPIC) It's steaming because hot things tend to produce steam.

He's only damaged and weakened by the attack itself, not the fire of Hellblaze. If he was, it would have kept burning and would have had burns all across his body.

YOU:
(NEW TOPIC) That was heavy metal and the functions are similar since they are both black flames that don't go out and can burn things naturally resistant to fire.

BA:
(NEW TOPIC) Neither of those have anything to do with Itachi's justifications, especially the fact that they're black flames.

ME:
(NEW TOPIC) With that kind of logic dozens of verses would have random powers and abilities from other verses regardless of context just because "they are similar"

This is the same thing you tried to do with Ominous Nebula and Deva Path's abilities.

YOU:
(NEW TOPIC) Alright never mind then is everything else on the crt good?

BYASURA SEEMS TO APPROVE

YOU:
Should doll gowther be standard equipment for demon gowther or optional equipment? Also, should king have bfr via Oslo?

BA:
Sure.

No.

NEEDS MORE INPUT

YOU:
Also do demons from NNT have unholy manipulation?

BA:
I don't know. I didn't even realise that was a power until now.

 

[Rabbit2002]

Well, many things need more input

 

[Rabbit2002]

First the disaster, it seem like a power for every fairy king because from what Gulia said Disaster is a power that allow the Fairy Kings to completely draw out the mysterious qualities of their Spirit Spears which made from Sacred Trees (Chapter 25)

Second, Body Puppetry is the ability to control the body or bodies of others. Unlike its counterparts Mind Manipulation and Possession, it does not work off controlling the mind or inhabiting a body, rather it functions by controlling another's body directly from a distance without affecting the soul or mind. The first time Cusack use resonant it seem like body puppetry but after that Nakaba reboot and make it work by possess the victim's mind and soul to control them.

The last one, The Vampire King when said ordinary fire won't work to him and only Purgatory Fire can affect but he was burned and even turn into nothingness by Escarno's fire.

 

[speedster352]

First the disaster, it seem like a power for every fairy king because from what Gulia said Disaster is a power that allow the Fairy Kings to completely draw out the mysterious qualities of their Spirit Spears which made from Sacred Trees (Chapter 25)

What about the other points one made?

 

[Rabbit2002]

What about the other points one made?

which points ?

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

which points ?

He means the other topics that need more input

 

[Rabbit2002]

He means the other topics that need more input

Well, I guess other topics need more input from other people

 

[speedster352]

I also think that the demon king should have type 9 immortality due to residing in purgatory for when he possesses Meliodas, Zeldris and Britannia

 

[ByAsura]

When is it stated he still resided in Purgatory? That's completely contradicted by the fact that he was killed.

 

[Rabbit2002]

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