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Finished Sigma 1, I think I found a reason for Ryu to scale to Vigoor's Low 2-C feat @DarkDragonMedeus posted, but there's 1 gripe I have with it so it could be a "possibly Low 2-C" rating
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Ninja Gaiden and Dead or Alive discussion
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What's the issue?
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You might find one sometime in late december
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Master Murai's Dark Dragon Blade.
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What about that?
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I was asking if that was the "Reason" from Sigma 1 that you brought up. For Ryu to scale from Vigoor's feat. Because I was pretty sure that was where the scaling was based off of. Though you also mentioned an issue about that?
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No, its from Ryu beating the Dark Dragon in Dragon Sword, who defeated the dragons that killed Vigoor. The issue is that Vigoor is still the Supreme Archfiend in Sigma II while Ryu isn't that much stronger than other Fiends
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Actually I don't remember if what I said was fully accurate. I have a document for the feats I'm getting but I didn't get the scan of Vigoor being defeated in the lore so I might have misremembered
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I gotchu hold on
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The 13 Dragons were able to Defeat Vigoor before much later one of the weakest ones turned evil, I believe this is the same Dragon Ryu Fights in 1
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That’s because he didn’t have the True Dragon Sword yet and even without it he defeated the Dragon and this was before he obtained the True Dragon Sword
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Do you have the scan of one of those dragons becoming the Dark Dragon? I kinda remember this
TurtleGod55
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Yup give me a second
TurtleGod55
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Right here this is one of the Dragons who became evil and had to fight in 1
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Do you guys have Discord so we can continue this discussion? I already have a server ready for posting Scans and preparing a Cosmology
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I think discussing it here is better
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Any More News?
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For now, no. But someone else who has the time should go through Dragon Sword to solidify the scaling to Vigoor
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I watched the Dragon Sword Game and there’s more implying that the Dragon Sword is Carved by the Dragons themselves
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I don't think that's too relevant, barely proves anything
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These are the Same People that defeated the dark dragon who was one of the dragons that defeated Vigoor long ago and not to mention that in the Vigoor Lore is the same one you fight in Ninja Gaiden 1 Underworld
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Wait what? Can you provide a citation?
I've already went through Ninja Gaiden DS tho.
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Vigoor was mentioned in the Gurdu Book in Ninja Gaiden 2 and that’s the Same Vigoor you fight in Ninja Gaiden 1, he was also finna be Resurrected in the DS Version but failed and ended up being the Dragon.
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Well, the Dragon fought in Dragon Sword is the Dark Dragon, one of the dragons that fought against Vigoor. So sure there will be scaling
Also, is there supposed to be an image posted there? Can't tell
Iirc the Vigoor emperor was actually a human? Its been a minute since I went through 1, but the NG wiki at least says this unless it's wrong.
Also, is there supposed to be an image posted there? Can't tell
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No he wasn’t human and my bad lol I was doing something when I replied back
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Vigoor Emperor
"Enough of this, your insignificant life ends here." - Vigoor Emperor The Vigoor Emperor (神聖皇帝ヴィゴル Shinsei Kotei Vigoru ), also known as the Holy Vigoor Emperor, is the overarching antagonist of Ninja Gaiden, Ninja Gaiden Black, Ninja Gaiden Sigma and Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus as well in Ninja...
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The Holy Vigoor Emperor is the immortal figurehead of the Vigoor Empire, and the representation of the deity Vigoor. Though no one knows exactly how he came into being, he came to rule an Empire founded on the lands in where Vigoor had corrupted the Dark Dragon during the ancient era. He is a very powerful human with a high degree of fiendish genes in his blood, this allows him to transcend beyond physical boundaries and keep rule over powerful fiends.[2]So is this wrong?
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I don’t remember seeing this and as far as I remember. the Transcend Physical Boundaries came from Early chapters in NG 1 and it was referring to other Fiends but who knows, maybe this scales to him too I have to double checkVigoor Emperor
"Enough of this, your insignificant life ends here." - Vigoor Emperor The Vigoor Emperor (神聖皇帝ヴィゴル Shinsei Kotei Vigoru ), also known as the Holy Vigoor Emperor, is the overarching antagonist of Ninja Gaiden, Ninja Gaiden Black, Ninja Gaiden Sigma and Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus as well in Ninja...
The Holy Vigoor Emperor is the immortal figurehead of the Vigoor Empire, and the representation of the deity Vigoor. Though no one knows exactly how he came into being, he came to rule an Empire founded on the lands in where Vigoor had corrupted the Dark Dragon during the ancient era. He is a very powerful human with a high degree of fiendish genes in his blood, this allows him to transcend beyond physical boundaries and keep rule over powerful fiends.[2]
So is this wrong?
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Anyways lemme copy paste the scaling chain I wrote up before
Gurdu, the first deity, created the universe. He was eventually beaten by Vigoor, the deity of Hatred. Years later, the 13 Dragons are born, and defeat Vigoor. (More info on the conflict between the dragons in the vid since it's alot).
The Dark Dragon beats its 12 siblings.
Centuries later, Ryu fights the Drak Dragon, and wins
And another somewhat important one. Vazdah was born from from the mind and body of Vigoor
Ryu fights and defeats Vazdah
I'm iffy on the Vigoor emperor thing so I didn't include it here
Gurdu, the first deity, created the universe. He was eventually beaten by Vigoor, the deity of Hatred. Years later, the 13 Dragons are born, and defeat Vigoor. (More info on the conflict between the dragons in the vid since it's alot).
The Dark Dragon beats its 12 siblings.
Centuries later, Ryu fights the Drak Dragon, and wins
And another somewhat important one. Vazdah was born from from the mind and body of Vigoor
Ryu fights and defeats Vazdah
I'm iffy on the Vigoor emperor thing so I didn't include it here
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NG 1 had one job… my mind is exploding inside
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Yeah and after the Ninja Gaiden lore and scaling is solved is it possible that we can Tag Nioh and Dead or Alive next?
TurtleGod55
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We do have some hints that it is but not directly
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No, the Vigoor Emperor is not Vigoor
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Yeah it is calced
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That's Alexei
And here's the calc we currently use for Ryu. Could prolly use a recalc tho
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TurtleGod55
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after thinking this through I believe it’s best if we work on the Power System before Scaling
