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New Testament 22 Updates
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Why? He kept up with Coronzon and magic gods just fine in extended battles.
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Considering that Niang Niang kept up with Coronzon in an extended battle they should be.
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@Don't talk
1. That was me, the OP says and/or so I just put both. Do you think limited soul manip should be removed? It makes more sense to keep the Forced astral projection.
1. That was me, the OP says and/or so I just put both. Do you think limited soul manip should be removed? It makes more sense to keep the Forced astral projection.
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Yeah, I would agree with deleting the limited soul manipulation, as that is less specific.
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Okay deleted Limited Soul Manipulation from his abilities section and I also upgraded his intelligence to Super genius.
Aleister's smartphone should probably be added in as equipment as well.
Aleister's smartphone should probably be added in as equipment as well.
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It is unlocked.
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no guys seriously think this very carefully about the sub rel speed for accel, it would scale for most people, and by that logic wouldn't touma be sub rel too ? he intercepted 1 attack even if he could not block the sheer power
coronzon might only be sub relativistic with the wings gained by the AAA too, or need some kind of spell/condition to do it (even for the WB she already was on route with the ship she used the explosion to make it turn and boost the speed)
coronzon might only be sub relativistic with the wings gained by the AAA too, or need some kind of spell/condition to do it (even for the WB she already was on route with the ship she used the explosion to make it turn and boost the speed)
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@Malox
You really don't like giving Accel any kind of upgrade do you? You have tried to make an argument for any upgrade that has been given or debated.
He's sub rel. That is Coronzon's actual speed. The Nerfed magic gods and Accel scale to that. Therefore they are also sub rel.
You really don't like giving Accel any kind of upgrade do you? You have tried to make an argument for any upgrade that has been given or debated.
He's sub rel. That is Coronzon's actual speed. The Nerfed magic gods and Accel scale to that. Therefore they are also sub rel.
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@Schrokatze
He should be super genius now, not only has he had a massive upgrade in magical knowledge but now also has Alester's smart phone with all the codes on and the technology of Academy City.
Also Forced Astral projection should have been left on over Limited Soul Manipulation.
He should be super genius now, not only has he had a massive upgrade in magical knowledge but now also has Alester's smart phone with all the codes on and the technology of Academy City.
Also Forced Astral projection should have been left on over Limited Soul Manipulation.
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i have been arguing long before this thread about accel reflection limit removal (this novel giving me confirmation)
i would like to keep thing that make sense, the author is very keen to remember that magican and esper are still human
in my opinion accel should not even need to have a limit for pushing force as the 3rd law of motion exist (and as this novel confirm he can redirect the rebound force too) so he will always overpower the other pushing force
but sub relativistic speed is almost impossible to work following the rules of the universe
and this part pretty much specify she used the wings to move
"No, her hair did more than that. Like a ribbon in rhythmic gymnastics or like the cursive writing on a parchment contract, the dancing golden light formed meaningful characters in the air. Then bat-like glowing wings burst from the sides of her beige habit.
These sinister wings were formed from the "contents" of the A.A.A., not its mechanical structure.
(I should take a ballistic route instead of normal flight. Heading 'outside' and reentering should be faster.)
That Great Demon did not care about her avatar's convenience. [1] With Coronzon filling the avatar, that soft flesh would not burn up in the atmosphere.
Even though she was using the same thing, those wings did not possess over-the-top rocket boosters like Aleister's toy did. The wings remained wings, so she only had to flap them.
Those excess functions were a sign of fear.
Facades, justifications, theoretical arguments, and ideals. Humans grew fat on all that extraneous nonsense. To the point that they lost sight of what lay at the center of it all.
333. Dispersion.
Coronzon encouraged the world to naturally break apart and she did not hide her evil deeds.
"Now, then."
She looked straight up.
The thick ceiling overhead did not even enter her thoughts.
"The Great Demon is coming for you, Aleister. And you only have yourself to blame."
A single line of light broke through the giant warehouse's ceiling as it launched itself outside the atmosphere."
and even for the return to earth the WB was already at that speed, she just boosted it a bit and made it turn back(i m not even sure she boosted it )
i would like to keep thing that make sense, the author is very keen to remember that magican and esper are still human
in my opinion accel should not even need to have a limit for pushing force as the 3rd law of motion exist (and as this novel confirm he can redirect the rebound force too) so he will always overpower the other pushing force
but sub relativistic speed is almost impossible to work following the rules of the universe
and this part pretty much specify she used the wings to move
"No, her hair did more than that. Like a ribbon in rhythmic gymnastics or like the cursive writing on a parchment contract, the dancing golden light formed meaningful characters in the air. Then bat-like glowing wings burst from the sides of her beige habit.
These sinister wings were formed from the "contents" of the A.A.A., not its mechanical structure.
(I should take a ballistic route instead of normal flight. Heading 'outside' and reentering should be faster.)
That Great Demon did not care about her avatar's convenience. [1] With Coronzon filling the avatar, that soft flesh would not burn up in the atmosphere.
Even though she was using the same thing, those wings did not possess over-the-top rocket boosters like Aleister's toy did. The wings remained wings, so she only had to flap them.
Those excess functions were a sign of fear.
Facades, justifications, theoretical arguments, and ideals. Humans grew fat on all that extraneous nonsense. To the point that they lost sight of what lay at the center of it all.
333. Dispersion.
Coronzon encouraged the world to naturally break apart and she did not hide her evil deeds.
"Now, then."
She looked straight up.
The thick ceiling overhead did not even enter her thoughts.
"The Great Demon is coming for you, Aleister. And you only have yourself to blame."
A single line of light broke through the giant warehouse's ceiling as it launched itself outside the atmosphere."
and even for the return to earth the WB was already at that speed, she just boosted it a bit and made it turn back(i m not even sure she boosted it )
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@Malox
By your logic no human in To aru should exceed human speed.
Again Coronzon has sub rel speed period. Accel and Nerfed magic gods scale to that.
By your logic no human in To aru should exceed human speed.
Again Coronzon has sub rel speed period. Accel and Nerfed magic gods scale to that.
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"The highest level of non-omniscient intellect, possessed by those individuals with unfathomably superhuman intelligence and usually extensive mastery of most, or all, branches of science. Characters of such a scale tend to be super scientists capable of creating impossibly advanced physics-defying and reality-warping fantasy technology even with just household items, and outsmarting even other extremely intelligent individuals."Scrlk666777 said:
I don't think any of this truly applies to Accelerator. He is the smartest person around, but doesn't have the mastery on science (aside from maybe physics) that specialized experts in AC have, simply due to not having studied the subjects.
Likewise he has not really shown the ability to invent super technology or stuff. Extraordinary Genius is a vast tier, I think.
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@Malox
Ah I see. They are human but they are also humans that seem to be able to substain a lot of damage that a regular human probably wouldn't able to withstand. Touma is the prime example of this although there are other circumstances for that as well.
@Don't talk
I see. That makes sense. I thought the magical knowledge would have counted as well but if it's just based on Science then I have to agree about it being left as Extraordinary genius.
Ah I see. They are human but they are also humans that seem to be able to substain a lot of damage that a regular human probably wouldn't able to withstand. Touma is the prime example of this although there are other circumstances for that as well.
@Don't talk
I see. That makes sense. I thought the magical knowledge would have counted as well but if it's just based on Science then I have to agree about it being left as Extraordinary genius.
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Yeah, Touma is a bit of a weird one when it comes to duarability. He has been shown he can be hurt by a punch via Motoharu and bullets can hurt him. But then he has shown to be able to survive attacks that probably even exceed wall level, like the attacks that Accel himself used on him in OT 3 and also managed to take Misaka's lightning attack that hit him just before the battle.
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i still think nt 10 saint was the biggest offender he was reduced to this :
"Just before she acted, something flew over like a bullet. The dark red mass came from the side. She accurately spotted the object flying her way and knocked it to the ground with the bottom of her sword's hilt.
A disgusting sticky sound filled the air.
The "object" was what had been an Asian boy a moment before.
"Wait, Brunhild," said a devilish voice.
The figure that walked over was stained a dark red.
"Don't kill her that easily. That isn't enough to pay for what she's done. Before killing that damn magic god, I want to take at least one precious thing from her. That will be a lot more fun."
Brunhild frowned at Silvia's state, looked down at what was supposedly a boy, and frowned even deeper."
The dark red mass was still trembling slightly.
He was breathing."
and then still fought thor and marian (and othinus)
"Just before she acted, something flew over like a bullet. The dark red mass came from the side. She accurately spotted the object flying her way and knocked it to the ground with the bottom of her sword's hilt.
A disgusting sticky sound filled the air.
The "object" was what had been an Asian boy a moment before.
"Wait, Brunhild," said a devilish voice.
The figure that walked over was stained a dark red.
"Don't kill her that easily. That isn't enough to pay for what she's done. Before killing that damn magic god, I want to take at least one precious thing from her. That will be a lot more fun."
Brunhild frowned at Silvia's state, looked down at what was supposedly a boy, and frowned even deeper."
The dark red mass was still trembling slightly.
He was breathing."
and then still fought thor and marian (and othinus)
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I'd simply treat Touma the same way Cap or Batman is treated. He's absurdly good at tanking blunt force, but still vulnerable to piercing damage like bullets. They are different after all.Malox1696 said:
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What does this have to do with anything?Malox1696 said:
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Again what does him being crippled have to do with anything?Malox1696 said:
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I also agree with Law Manipulation.
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It's an extremly specific thing that he can not do with anything else (as far as we know). Personally I would just write it on his profile and not link it to anything, instead of trying to guess what power that belongs to.SchroKatze said:
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@Malox
His durability in base means without his vector shield which can be applied to with or without the choker. Who is going to use Accel without his choker anyway?
His durability in base means without his vector shield which can be applied to with or without the choker. Who is going to use Accel without his choker anyway?
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@DT
"Law Manipulation (By having the power over the nameless third tree and inserting it into the world, Accelerator overwrote the rules that govern reality and created a new set of rules and hierarchy)"
Is that ok? We can specify thats a collateral effect of the third tree and not combat applicable
"Law Manipulation (By having the power over the nameless third tree and inserting it into the world, Accelerator overwrote the rules that govern reality and created a new set of rules and hierarchy)"
Is that ok? We can specify thats a collateral effect of the third tree and not combat applicable
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the power negations user can byspass his vector control removing any additional dura boost he could get by redirecting the impact after the attack bypass his vector shield (even with 8b dura he would have died by kekinay wings, but then touma easily knocks him out and nailgun easily penetrate him)Scrlk666777 said:
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@Schro: Eh, if it's important to you guys, sure. As long as it's clear that this isn't combat appliciable/is limited in application, it doesn't matter what it's classified as.
