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New NNT Rescaling
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I don’t think it is. Escanor transformed on his own.
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But izraf said their is neither noon or morning in his domain.
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Wouldn't that mean that it would still be either morning or noon outside his domain so Sunshine would still work because it's dependent on the position of the sun unlike the scenario with Chandler
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Like Bleach said, Izraf is just referring to the domain.
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This got me thinking
Pretty much sunshine works based on the position of the sun
So even if something blocks out the sun it would still work but Chandler Night made it that he would revert back to his nighttime self
This gotta be some big feat or something..
Pretty much sunshine works based on the position of the sun
So even if something blocks out the sun it would still work but Chandler Night made it that he would revert back to his nighttime self
This gotta be some big feat or something..
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It's reality warping
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Reality warping based on?
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Making true night read his profile
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We see he’s not really moving the sun and the moon, or anything, he just creates a sort of gradual bubble that turns night into day. According to the Sins, it’d also be deactivated once he’s dead, and Mael disperses TOG’s ‘veil’.
Doesn’t seem like a feat of power, just a magical ability.
Doesn’t seem like a feat of power, just a magical ability.
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Anyone gonna address my point about how 2nd Demon Mark Meliodas didn’t destroy Danafor?
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What point?
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It isn’t Demon Mark Meliodas who does that feat, it’s a Meliodas who’s engulfed in darkness and black marks, and since we know Meliodas had access to his 3rd Demon Mark and Assault Mode during this time period, it wouldn’t be scaling to the Meliodas who has a Power Level of 50,000+ and lost to Estarossa
So the 50,000-88,000 people shouldn’t be scaling to Danafor’s Destruction
So the 50,000-88,000 people shouldn’t be scaling to Danafor’s Destruction
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Nabaka has a thing for retroactively changing the Demon Mark. It's repeatedly confirmed in-universe that Unsealed Meliodas destroyed Danafor.
It doesn't even make sense for him to do it at Post-Time Skip or Prime levels of power because, despite having Assault Mode, he'd gone through a bunch of resurrections.
Not only that, every piece of media showing the destruction of Danafor—even made after that chapter—shows it was his berserk form, which only increased his strength previously because it was drawing out latent power.
It doesn't even make sense for him to do it at Post-Time Skip or Prime levels of power because, despite having Assault Mode, he'd gone through a bunch of resurrections.
Not only that, every piece of media showing the destruction of Danafor—even made after that chapter—shows it was his berserk form, which only increased his strength previously because it was drawing out latent power.
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Where is this actually said?
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Except that isn’t said… It’s said they need to return their power to him, we know right before his power was stolen, he had access to his 3rd Demon Mark and also Assault Mode, and his Prime Power is above 200,000
All that’s said is that Meliodas has had his power returned to him, but in Chapter 137, he explicitly says he hasn’t reached his full potential and still has some recovering to do, which likely means his original power is slowly returning, and we of course see that over time, his power returns to it where it originally was, being far above Zeldris, as well we know that he could use his 3rd Demon Mark and Assault Mode as a Sins member, meaning him not using those forms against the commandments means he couldn’t yet, which once again signifies he did mot fully regain the power he used to destroy Danafor
At no point is it actually said the 50,000 Demon Mark Meliodas is the same level as the Meliodas who destroyed Danafor, in fact it’s implied this feat was performed as a max rage feat far above a standard Demon Mark, since we know Berserker Mode>Demon Mark
In a side chapter later, when Meliodas is threatening to destroy Liones, his rage is building up and we see the 3rd Demon Mark as well as him being covered in darkness
So yet again, it was never directly said or stated that the Demon Mark Meliodas who fought Drole and Gloxinia is the same power as the one who destroyed Danafor, that’s just a huge assumption that’s been made for years, and it’s been debunked by later chapters
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The power stolen directly at Danafor, my guy, and returned to him in full. It is stated. And they have to spend this entire arc training him so that he doesn't destroy the city again, and they have simulations of him constantly destroying the city with that power.
He explicitly says a little more recovering, and the databook lists his power as pretty much unchanged onwards from that, so it's probably just a boast.
What you're talking about there is Post-Revival Meliodas after the timeskip, who died and revived after receiving his Danafor levels.
Again, his power is drawn from that source.
And in all the instances where he destroys Danafor, it's shown not to have been that form.
It's not a huge assumption, it's literally what happens in the chapter. Calling it a retcon or debunk literally just relies on the appearance of one Demon Mark in a side chapter, something Nabaka is notoriously inconsistent with.
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Uh no… He destroyed Danafor and many years later during the time when the Sins were accused of being evil and Elizabeth was hurt, that’s when Meliodas was going berserk again and we see that’s when Merlin stole his power, Meliodas still had his Danafor destroying power up until the Sins disbanded
I mean we know that isn’t his full power tho… His full power from Danafor is at a point where he had access to Assault Mode and his Demon Mark… So this out of control full berserk covered in blackness Meliodas shouldn’t be scaling to just simply the Demon Mark, I don’t know which form to scale him too frankly since it was a rage feat, I guess just his peak power in the times as a Sin before the series started
Yes, but we know for a fact that Post-Revival Meliodas is weaker than the power he had during the Holy War and as Captain of the Sins… So yeah, this doesn’t matter as we know his Unsealed State is still very much incomplete compared to those days
Once again no, his power was stolen in Liones when Elizabeth got hurt, not at Danafor
You’re right, it’s worse, it’s a berserk form that has black markings all over Meliodas’ face, so it shouldn’t be assumed to scale to regular ass Demon Mark Meliodas
His power was returned to him, but as we know, it wasn’t his full power at all… He didn’t show Assault Mode, which once again, we know he did have at the time of Danafor’s Destruction
This whole Demon Mark Meliodas = Form that destroyed Danafor gets like debunked by later chapters because Nakaba changed his mind about Meliodas’ true power like 4 times
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I meant to say his Danafor levels were stolen, which they were. Merlin explicitly stole them because he was going to replicate what he did to Danafor on Liones.
The thing is Meliodas never used the forms you're bringing up to destroy Danafor.
It's confirmed by Merlin that the only reason his power increased at all previously was because he was tapping into his latent sealed power.
But the Meliodas that destroyed Danafor isn't his Prime, he's revived since then.
You're misunderstanding me. All I said was that it's the same source.
Given that, when Berserk was active the first time we see it, he wasn't stronger than Gideon (whereas his Demon Mark did way more damage to Hendy than Gideon), I strongly disagree.
He never used either of those at Danafor.
The fact that he doesn't use his Assault Mode just means he doesn't want to sacrifice his emotions. He could do it even after reviving.
No we don't. We know he destroyed Danafor 10 or 11 years prior to the series, but the only time Meliodas showed Assault Mode before that point was 15 years before the series.
Edit: Nvm, it was 16.
He didn't change his mind. He changed the shape of his Demon Mark, which he's done a bunch.
Also, we've seen with all the 2nd Demon Marks that they're already using their Demon Marks and then enlarge them, but that isn't the case here.
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Which one?
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You've already posted it there anyway.
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Do you agree with the class t living strength and the characters it scales to?
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Sure maybe ask byashura
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Not sure.
We talked about revising it, but I got caught up in a lot of stuff.
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So i used the horizon calculator for the panel and got 65.5km if i remember the correctly the rock they're on was the mid way point so i used 65.5km as a radius, long story short using PE this feat is Mountain level to Large Mountain level.... disappointing
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But you are calculating the lifting strength remember?
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There's no Timeframe to find the kgf unless I can use the mass straight up
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So find the mass then
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what shape you think this would be? i'm going for a cylinder
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I think an oval will work and it's large enough for giants to go through.
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meh an oval doesn't really look like that tho
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lmao i just used the the volume of a hempishere for fun and got large island level
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Tales of the Abyss Calc: Atomizing Miasma
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Maybe I can do something with the miasma feat
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Yeah also how is the drive calc going?Tales of the Abyss Calc: Atomizing Miasma
Maybe I can do something with the miasma feat
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Drole calc? It's all depends on the shape I use
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