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I believe that is because he can still exist in that state, in fact that should be his true form(not sure about this)Graham from Mgkf regeneration from nothingness tho , and he have Nep2
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I believe that is because he can still exist in that state, in fact that should be his true form(not sure about this)Graham from Mgkf regeneration from nothingness tho , and he have Nep2
Only the core(?), so what about Anos....Graham himself is the void
Same with alovenus, capable to still exist after very concept of Hp got erased/ Exist at state where as same case with non existen state...I believe that is because he can still exist in that state, in fact that should be his true form(not sure about this)
Anos is not NEP type 2,only his root is,you can ask Null if you wantOnly the core(?), so what about Anos....
True, at least staff must give their argumentI very much prefer if staffs could elaborate their disagreement with good debunk post instead of just saying "this isn't enough for our standards".
From what I can see, both are completely different situation, for Alovenus she can still exist when her HP stat gets erased and can come back when the concept of HP gets erased, these are two different situationsSame with alovenus, capable to still exist after very concept of Hp got erased/ Exist at state where as same case with non existen state...
We don't get into the nitty gritty because there's no nitty gritty to get into. We have one statement of "existing before existence" and another that just seems to be a regeneration feat. Neither really qualify for our standards and there's little else to say.I very much prefer if staffs could elaborate their disagreement with good debunk post instead of just saying "this isn't enough for our standards".
Oh, your HP has been reduced to zero. You should know this already.”
Even when her HP had been reduced to zero or less, or when her HP statistic itself was erased, Alovenus still wouldn’t die. The battle would continue for as long as she wanted it to continue. She could stand up again as long as she wanted to do so.
But there's nitty gritty here, you could at least explain why reversing time until the state that you don't exist at all at the first place isn't qualified as type 2 NEP for instance, clearing misconception and elaborate what the standards are should be the least productive stuffs you can do as staff. Saying "this doesn't meet standards!" without any fuckery elaboration is nowhere helpful at all. Cheers.We don't get into the nitty gritty because there's no nitty gritty to get into. We have one statement of "existing before existence" and another that just seems to be a regeneration feat. Neither really qualify for our standards and there's little else to say.
And really, there's no reason to get into some elaborate post if something doesn't meet standards, that's sort of why we have them.
it is a lack of concepts as well, as the concept of HP is reduced to 0, which usually would mean that the character cease to existYou need more proof than a random statement like this for Type 2.
No have... But only have this sceneif anyone have scan that proved Alovenus being capable of existing in non-existence in the first place,pls show me,because simply regenerating from nothingness is not NEP
Oh, your HP has been reduced to zero. You should know this already.”
Even when her HP had been reduced to zero or less, or when her HP statistic itself was erased, Alovenus still wouldn’t die. The battle would continue for as long as she wanted it to continue. She could stand up again as long as she wanted to do so.
"The ability to reverse time and make the opponent non-existent."
That... doesn't really mean shit? Health Points have nothing to do with one's own identity or concept, and this would simply mean that she has some real good immortality, or Invulnerability or smth. But definitely not NEP2.Alovenus would come back even if her HP was erased” is strictly “Alovenus would come back even if the very concept of her HP was erased
Unless you show me that people's own concept will genuinely cease to exist if HP was erased, then you could make an argument for that, but I haven't seen anything like that here.
On this Verse, concept of Hp more deeper than other ( i already send explanation on top)The first scan indicates regeneration, not NEP2, since it said she will come back rather than stay in non-existence. And that is, at best, Low/Mid-Godly, not even High-Godly.
How is this NEP2, exactly? They simply get reversed to before they were born, but that doesn't mean concepts of themselves are getting erased. There's barely anything worth mentioning here. It mentions nothing about concepts whatsoever, just that "Lul time reverse and they go boom". At best, this could give NEP1, but even then, she regenerates, so It can't qualify for that.
That... doesn't really mean shit? Health Points have nothing to do with one's own identity or concept, and this would simply mean that she has some real good immortality, or Invulnerability or smth. But definitely not NEP2.
Unless you show me that people's own concept will genuinely cease to exist if HP was erased, then you could make an argument for that, but I haven't seen anything like that here.
I have read it and does that just simply mean she can return from nothingness instead of existing in that state?Because if she can regenerate then she would not die,not because she can exist as nonexistentNo have... But only have this scene
On that's scene is different case with non existen ( Regeneration)I have read it and does that just simply mean she can return from nothingness instead of existing in that state?Because if she can regenerate then she would not die,not because she can exist as nonexistent
-Alovenus would come back even if her HP was erased” is strictly “Alovenus would come back even if the very concept of her HP was erased”. (Translator note)
Oh, your HP has been reduced to zero. You should know this already.”
Even when her HP had been reduced to zero or less, or when her HP statistic itself was erased, Alovenus still wouldn’t die. The battle would continue for as long as she wanted it to continue. She could stand up again as long as she wanted to do so
I know but she can still regenerate in different sceneOn that's scene is different case with non existen ( Regeneration)
She still capable to exist after The very concept of Hp got erased.Yeah, it just seems to indicate whether she's dead or alive, nothing to do with her own concept.
Really ain't seeing anything NEP2 worthy here.
I know but she can still regenerate in different scene
“Oh, your HP has been reduced to zero. You should know this already.”
Even when her HP had been reduced to zero or less, or when her HP statistic itself was erased, Alovenus still wouldn’t die. The battle would continue for as long as she wanted it to continue. She could stand up again as long as she wanted to do so.
Alovenus Hp become 0
Got statement if her Hp stastic (concept of Hp) got erased, she wouldn't die, this sentence meaning. Alovenus capable still exist although Her concept Hp got erased. Pretty sure if alovenus not requiring regeneration or not, because the point of this battle is battle of will
Just wondering, how are undead affected by this HP stat? Otherwise it may fall under a form of immortality rather than any form of NEP.
I always saw less negative HP as a "heal hurt you, punches hit you".We aren't really shown any undead, dead people appear, but their souls are just brought back and inserted into a physical body, resurrection in other words.
HP is just something that shows whether something is dead or alive, if it's 0 you are dead, the closer you get to 0, the closer you are to death. The more HP you have, the more alive you are ie you are harder to kill.
What's said is that even if Alovenus HP is 0 or even less than that, or even if the concept of HP itself is erased, she would still come back. The less than zero stuff is weird to consider if at 0 you are already dead, i guess like a negative you are an undead?
Ruphas’ sword broke the Goddess’ sword, and even sliced through the Goddess’ body. The slash tore through everything in its path and continued to fly on indefinitely. The slash, which seemed to cut even the Final Point open, became bigger as it flew on to a distant location—and eventually disappeared.
Naturally, the Goddess didn’t die because of this. Death would not come to her by any means except for suicide. Even if her soul was destroyed, erased without any traces left, or rendered non-existent, she would still return, calmly and brazenly.
The current Ruphas might be able to forcibly kill the immortal Alovenus, but it seemed she had no intention of doing so. In any case, Alovenus herself had already painfully accepted her defeat.
“…Eh? Ah? Im—Impossible…I’m currently…”
“Oh, your HP has been reduced to zero. You should know this already.”
Even when her HP had been reduced to zero or less, or when her HP statistic itself was erased, Alovenus still wouldn’t die. The battle would continue for as long as she wanted it to continue. She could stand up again as long as she wanted to do so.
However, she had lost. Indeed, there was no doubt that Alovenus had lost. Furthermore, if Ruphas had wanted to kill her, Alovenus would be dead already.
However, she alone was different. In a world without dreams or fantasy, she alone was a dream and a fantasy. She could use magic and she had supernatural abilities. She could fly in the sky and survive in outer space. She could emit fire from her hands and could stop aging at a whim. Even rejuvenation was easy for her.
She had once experimented with her own body by incinerating it into ashes, but even that did not disrupt her consciousness. She had lost her body, yet her consciousness remained. When she tried to undo it, she was able to return to her original state immediately. Even life and death were phenomena that she could bend to her will.-Chapter 182
When did it all begin? She couldn’t remember anymore.
Although it was just barely, she could recall that she had once used to be a human. However, when she became a deity, her human self had completely vanished from history, as if she had never existed in the first place. Therefore, only she herself knew that she had once been a human, but there was no way to prove it.
It had occurred too long ago for her to remember the twists and turns that had happened after that. However, there was no doubt that, in the end, she had faced the creator deity, destroyed it, and became the next deity
185 alovenus
(i) During the fight between Alovenus and Ruphas, the “concept” of time was erased and time ceased to exist (Translator note)
Elizha: " I don't really see a problem with listing NEP when they are erased"All you've proven here is High-Godly regeneration.
OK, and?Elizha: " I don't really see a problem with listing NEP when they are erased"
Then Alovenus Will receive NEP2 after she got erased by Conceptual erasureOK, and?
Confirmation from a single staff member isn't gospel. So far the vast majority of the staff that have come here and some knowledgeable members simply treat it as Type 5 Immortality and High-Godly regeneration.Then Alovenus Will receive NEP2 after she got erased by Conceptual erasure
Wait, that above was for another character and verse entirely?Pretty sure NEP type 2 for EUG case that Elizha mentioned in that thread is completely different with Alovenus,but yeah we can just wait for him for confirmation
You can check the link i send btw....Wait, that above was for another character and verse entirely?