Natsu vs Siegfried Redux

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Eeeeh, Jordan argument is more convicing tbh, so welp Trash dragon knight FRA.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

MichaelJordan has switched to Inconclusive.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Shiet, then Incon FRA.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Natsu : 3 (Mitch, 1997, Core)
Incon: 3 (Rin, Jordan, Velox)

@homu vote pls

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Going to clear something, there's no reason to believe Natsu is doing the same or even more damage than if Siegfried didn't have his armor. That's one bit I don't agree with in the slightest because from A rank to E is the difference in strength from someone like Arthuria to someone like Medea. Natsu is higher up in Strength than Arthuria for sure, but I don't see the Dura Neg putting his damage above anything he could do if Siegfried had only his normal Dura without armor and Natsu didn't have Dura Neg.

Balmung doesn't take a while to discharge. That's pretty much like Saber's Excalibur, she does all that cool lifting up process and screaming, but she can actually fire the thing in a near instant. Siegfried is no different. And as said before, he can't spam it back to back like Homunculus, but he has no limit of shots. The Anti-Dragon quality and Dragon Slayer skill also means he's hurting Natsu at worst.

And Natsu should be pretty close to Siegfried, even if I think Siegfried has the slight fighting edge. But like Dragon said, he would let himself enjoy the fight if he sees Natsu can hurt him, but at the same time be more willing to Balmung. Siegfried isn't so clueless to not realize some dragon shenanigans may be up with Natsu, partly because he's taking more damage than he should and partly because his dragon killer is working plus his Balmung would do more damage.

 

[Creaturemaster971]

That's what I was arguing (at least the third point anyway, I just didn't phrase it as well)

 

[DragonEmperor23]

No, the Boost from fighting a dragon would make Natsu stronger than if Sieg didn't have the armor and wasn't dragonic. The difference between A and E is five times. The armor only subtracts the worth of a B rank from the attack. A+ = 1000 megatons, A = 500 and B = 400. To explain how good of a boost Natsu gets. Wendy who is 493 tons normally made Zirconis shout in pain. Zirconis scales to 578 megatons. So yeah, Natsu's doing more damage.

 

[The_Calaca]

Wait, if Wendy is Low 7-C by herself she shouldn't be 493Tons but 1 Kiloton at the very least.

 

[Rin_The_Dragon_Empress]

I'm still pretty skeptical about the durability negation of the Dragon Slayers. It more of a weakness to Dragons rather than a advantage to the Dragon Slayers but that's for a different thread.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Wendy's Small City+, I was looking at the wrong result.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

No, the Boost from fighting a dragon would make Natsu stronger than if Sieg didn't have the armor and wasn't dragonic. The difference between A and E is five times. The armor only subtracts the worth of a B rank from the attack. A+ = 1000 megatons, A = 500 and B = 400. To explain how good of a boost Natsu gets. Wendy who is 4 megatons normally made Zirconis shout in pain. Zirconis scales to 578 megatons. So yeah, Natsu's doing more damage.

Fixed.

 

[The_Calaca]

Well, now the difference isn't as obscene as it was before.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Wait, where does 5 ton for Wendy and 578 for Zirconis come from? And I remain skeptical off how much the difference was closed when Zirconis only reacted in pain but didn't show any real damage, not to mention he didn't expect to be hurt and was hit on the back of the neck/head. Conversely, Igneel got his entire body ****** up and Acnologia lost an arm, but they barely reacted in comparison.

And no, I don't mean this wouldn't apply but I feel the result is being made to be larger than it is.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Wendy scales to Gray and Zirconis scales to Laxus.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

I see, thank you.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Np

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

BUMP!!

 

[Ozy_the_God-King]

I vote for Siegfried

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

What reason? If you refers to Jordan he switched to incon.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

I vote for Siegfried

Not counting this since you didn't give any reasoning.

 

[Crimson_Azoth]

The winning guy FRA

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

The loser guy FRB :v

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Natsu : 4 (Mitch, 1997, Core,Crimson)
Incon: 3 (Rin, Jordan, Velox)

@velox are you talking about Natsu?

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Nah, just responding Crimson post

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Kay

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Natsu FRA

An eye for an eye, or so they say. Wait...

 

[DragonEmperor23]

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Natsu : 5 (Mitch, 1997, Core,Crimson,Apies)
Incon: 3 (Rin, Jordan, Velox)

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Ty

 

[CNBA3]

Voting for winning

 

[DragonEmperor23]

U gotta say fra before I can add it

 

[CNBA3]

What does fra mean?

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

For Reasons Above. It's basically saying you agree X should win for reasons stated previously.

 

[CNBA3]

Okay, thanks, Natsu FRA

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Natsu: 6 (Mitch, Core, 1997, CNBA, Apies, Crimson)

Incon: 3 (Rin, Jordan, Felix)

 

[Cueio_2020]

Natsu FRA

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Hey look Dragon! Grace!

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Natsu: 7 (Mitch, Core, 1997, CNBA, Apies, Crimson,Cueio)
Incon: 3 (Rin, Jordan, Felix)

Yay!

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Siegfried deserve this lose ovo

And now you convicing me to make Metal Gear Drago vs Natsu :^)

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Nanomachines, so

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

@Velox

PLEASE, NO MORE NATSU MATCHES, LET THE OTHER CHARACTERS SHINE

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Let Erza make someone eat a sword, pls.