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DragonEmperor23 said:
That doesn't say anything about Endurance. Cinder clearly has the better endurance feat. Natsu's feats don't compare.
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Natsu Dragneel vs Cinder Fall
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That doesn't say anything about Endurance. Cinder clearly has the better endurance feat. Natsu's feats don't compare.
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Endurance =/= Stamina. Endurance is the ability to endure, which is what enduring getting Second Origin would be. You haven't even said what the endurance feat for Cinder was.
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She trained for days on end with serious injuries. She also survived being frozen and falling down into a pit. She has the better endurance and stamina.
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She wasn't training for full days without stopping. There's no proof of that. Pretty sure falling down a pit isn't going to hurt someone with High 7-C dura.
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We actually don't know if she survived that pitfall, I mean, she likely did, but it's not confirmed yet
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I'm going to vote Natsu via being able to eat any fire thrown at him and becoming stronger, eating any electricity used and becoming Small City +, and being resistant to ice manipulation. His skill in combat also helps.
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@Dragon Natsu doesnt have access to his Small City level+ form here, Cinder barely uses fire or ice at all in this form, she can absorb his magic, and she beat someone with thousands of years of combat experience
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Eating lightning makes him become Small City+. Same way Doctor Doom can become 4-B from base form by absorbing powers. Can she absorb magic mid attack? Experience =/= Skill.WeeklyBattles said:
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@Dragon Natsu does not have access to anything but his base form in this match
She can absorb magic just by touching her opponent
Oz has thousands of years of experience and the combined combat skill of hundreds of fighters who trained their entire lives in combat
She can absorb magic just by touching her opponent
Oz has thousands of years of experience and the combined combat skill of hundreds of fighters who trained their entire lives in combat
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I mean, she does have her grimm arm, which drains your power upon contact.
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Oz does have thousands of years of experience and yet he still lost to Cinder who is in her 20's, Experience does not always equate much better skill, also from what it seems like, Cinder Overpowered Ozpin will Raw Power, not that she doesn't have Skill, I'm just saying
And Dragon means Natsu gets an AP boost if he eats Conder's Electricity
And Dragon means Natsu gets an AP boost if he eats Conder's Electricity
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She hardly uses electricity in this form.
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He's just throwing out a possibility
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What do you mean by access? It's just what happens when certain conditions are met.
She has to hit him with her arm and the attack is easy to dodge. She only hit Raven with it because the smoke covered up the arm closing the distance.
That doesn't really mean anything. It sounds impressive but there needs to be actual feats of skill.
She has to hit him with her arm and the attack is easy to dodge. She only hit Raven with it because the smoke covered up the arm closing the distance.
That doesn't really mean anything. It sounds impressive but there needs to be actual feats of skill.
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@Dragon the arm isn't exactly a telegraphed attack. He wouldn't be aware that the scary looking claw arm can extend at will and drain your powers.
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Yeah but it moves in a straight line. He doesn't have to know what it does, he just needs to dodge it. It's not like Natsu is just going to stand there and let it hit him.Theglassman12 said:
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If Cinder uses any form of fire, then Natsu stomps.
Otherwise, this is pretty close. Voting Natsu, though, due to him using more destructive forms of fighting (fire) as a normal thing while Cinder mostly utilizes hand-to-hand
Otherwise, this is pretty close. Voting Natsu, though, due to him using more destructive forms of fighting (fire) as a normal thing while Cinder mostly utilizes hand-to-hand
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She doesnt use fire post timeskip
Cinder can alco absorb Natsu's magic on conact
Cinder can alco absorb Natsu's magic on conact
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Yes she absolutely uses fire post timeskip. As shown twice against Raven
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She used a single fireball against raven, other than that the only fire she used was for mobility or defense
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No its not, thats fire defensively.
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She is literally creating fire swords to attack Raven.
Not like it matters since fire is still fire
Not like it matters since fire is still fire
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The swords aremt made of fire though, theyre made of obsidian unless you want to tell me Natsu can eat rocks in this form
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That makes sense actually.
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Well he has melted a steel axe and then ate that, so he could likely eat obsidian
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He's not melting her swords unless he gets past her aura
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Also can you update the votes in the OP? Youre missing quite a few votes for cinder
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Doesn't Obsidian cut on a cellular level? Doubt he'd be able to eat it without getting hurt. Also Natsu didn't eat the molten axe. He eat the heat from it and spat the metal out
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@Rin Technically an obsidian weapon can be sharpened down to the molecular level
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Also if he tries to melt and eat her swords she can just turn them into glass in his stomach
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Natsu since he don't scale to a storm
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velv u gotta be more detailed than that or use other people's reasons
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Whot m8?
That reason makes zero sense
That reason makes zero sense
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Oh nah I wasn't serious about this thread
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Anyways, Cinder's general lack of offensive fire attacks means there isnt going to be much of anything for Natsu to eat and absorb whereas Cinder can absorb his magic by touching him, if he tries to melt and eat her weapons he gets a mouth and stomach full of glass shards, true flight and forcefields make it much harder for him to land an actual hit on her, and superior stamina eventually give Cinder the win.
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For now, Cinder for Weekly's reasons
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Cinder doesn't have superior stamina. It showed her training, that does not mean she trained for over multiple days without any breaks. Cinder also has to touch him with her hand specifically when she's a weapons fighter primarily and starts off fighting like that. All it takes is one fireball for Natsu to eat for him to be faster and stronger than her.
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