Naruto vs Meliodas

[OneBleachHurricane]

We scale using Gil’s natural thunderstorm lightning heat

Where does it say that Gil's lightning is 30K Celsius?

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

naruto doesn't have low 5-b dura

Read the Notes in his profile Robo

 

[Robo432343]

Read the Notes in his profile Robo

bro im so dumb
i thought zettatons is 5-C

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

I can’t see Part 2 Naruto being Low 5-B idek

In the profiles or your personal opinion

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

bro im so dumb
i thought zettatons is 5-C

Didn't you literally make a Q&A thread about Zettatons?

 

[Robo432343]

Didn't you literally make a Q&A thread about Zettatons?

yes

 

[Makai641001]

1. what's VC?

Vanish counter

2. Of course, he can deflect multiple attacks if coming together in same direction, I never argued against that just that he needed some form of touch.

Basically once he deflects 1 attack all the nearest attacks go back to the person that Send it

3. One that nulls all form of jutsu

Not senjutsu aka natural energy, magic in NNT involve natural energy/natural elements

• Destruction-Type「破壊型, Hakai-gata」: Allows the user to exert power with destructive properties, with natural forces like thunder or flame, or a unnatural dark force.

4. naruto durability at the lowest in his cloaked form is 800+ exatons while mel and his darkness is 700+ exatons and again naruto is invulnerable

Just saw that

5. Still not close to naruto

Stamina wise ?
Meliodas can last hours spamming Darkness tendrils, giant pillars etc…

6. oh you mean true magic? what's special about it?

Basically erasing shit, Blud erased DK’s arm cause he tried to touch him

7. Tag where it is on his profile

What ? True magic ? Search the EE part

8. What? no his EE comes from destroying the demo king with his own demon king power.

He had that Power even in purgatory that’s where he used it

He lost it and even if it is granted back to him it is irrelevant here as naruto is resistant. Mel himself is not resistant to EE

He still has it

9. It is his DK. You are just twisting narrative. If it was just his true magic then why did he not just use true magic to destroy him?

Cause it’s way to dangerous to be used in normal circumstances, he used it and destroyed his arm

why did he have to give up his DK powers? you are making his sacrifice pointless

He wanted to reign through normal means not using fear as a motive

10. No mel ap is actually quite lower. Only version 2x superior to naruto own is when he uses magic imbued weaponry which is pointless and naruto both nulls his magic but is also invulnerable to his magic

It’s around 8 to 9 times higher with enchantments, his magic is destroyer type magic it won’t get dispelled

11. So demon king directly stating the name of his attack is not a spell?

What attack ??

also scan for darkness being non magical

The commandments were sealed and had no magic tho they were using darkness to fly etc… it’s litteraly part of their body that’s a limb to them

12. read again. SBA strongest forms (low 5b with kurama six path sage mode) Ironically if you start naruto from base by the time he goes full power he blitzes and one shots

Mb I just misread Naruto’s profile it wasn’t in order so I thought he was 5-C+

13. Decimate power null and EE ?

The powernull doesn’t even work and Meli resists his own EE powers

14. Borrowed power is not the commandment. The demon king specifically stated the power he borrowed him was God when he attacked zeldris plus why would zeldris just decide not to use God to defend himself. Also saying he wanted to take his commandment but then found out it was useless but then went ahead to say the alternative is to take commandments is counter productive.

Meliodas knew he could not steal God cause it would automatically get taken back by DK

15. My bad i can't find it. either way amaterasu scales above sasuke lightning. naruto can also erase hellblaze

Mhmh i’ll trust you on this one

I honestly don't see mel wining in any scenario . While yes naruto cannot use jutsu due to FC the same is true about mel as all his magical attacks would either be erased, power nulled or if any of them manage to escape just won't work due to naruto's invulnerability. This match comes down to hand to hand and considering naruto has the higher speed amps, ESP and higher reactions coupled with analytic prediction I don't see mel winning. Naruto also has the slight ap advantage going by DM2 to Kurama cloaked and can further increase it with his avatar and even 3 times with asura mode.

Mel’s magic wouldn’t get erased or powernulled it’s similar to senjutsu

Meli has AM + his enchantments and can use magic as well as just spamming his darkness

 

[Arkansalter2]

There is A LOT going on in both pages so I'm not so sure what's going on with either of them. All I'm seeing is a bunch of "higher and far higher."

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

He still has it

Cause it’s way to dangerous to be used in normal circumstances, he used it and destroyed his arm

He wanted to reign through normal means not using fear as a motive

When was it implied that Meliodas, by the time of 4KoA, still has his True Magic?

 

[Makai641001]

Where does it say that Gil's lightning is 30K Celsius?

Natural thunderstorm lightning heat

When was it implied that Meliodas, by the time of 4KoA, still has his True Magic?

That’s his true magic power… he had it in season 1 the author also stated in the Q&A that he’ll use it again in 4Kota

That’s like asking « what proves ban can still use his snatch magic » that’s just his innate magical power.

FC never was his true power

 

[Makai641001]

There is A LOT going on in both pages so I'm not so sure what's going on with either of them. All I'm seeing is a bunch of "higher and far higher."

Basically they are close to each others in DM and far higher with other forms Meliodas has a 10x amp that puts him around 8 to 9 times higher and can use natural forces or his darkness to bypass the ninjutsu barrier

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Natural thunderstorm lightning heat

Which is 5X the heat of the sun though, 27,800 C

That’s his true magic power… he had it in season 1

Season 1 of what? The 4KoA anime?

the author also stated in the Q&A that he’ll use it again in 4Kota

So is there actually any thing that hints he still has it other than the Author?

That’s like asking « what proves ban can still use his snatch magic » that’s just his innate magical power.

It's like you didn't understand the question.

I'm asking if he still has True Magic, because Meliodas stated he lost that power in order to destroy his father's power

FC never was his true power

So when did I say FC was his true power?

 

[Robo432343]

Meliodas has a 10x amp that puts him around 8 to 9 times higher

if this is true then he would have been more than like 70 zettatons
but he is 7 zetta

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

if this is true then he would have been more than like 70 zettatons
but he is 7 zetta

He's not saying Meliodas is 70 Zettatons

He's saying that with Destroyer Magic Mel has a 7 to 9 times Amp to his Base, Demon Marks, or Assault Mode Form

 

[Makai641001]

Which is 5X the heat of the sun though, 27,800 C

Yeah around that

Season 1 of what? The 4KoA anime?

SDS

So is there actually any thing that hints he still has it other than the Author?

That’s Just His magic, he has it Just like an ice mage can use his ice magic

It's like you didn't understand the question.

I'm asking if he still has True Magic, because Meliodas stated he lost that power in order to destroy his father's power

He never stated that he’d lost his True magic he lost his DK form

So when did I say FC was his true power?

Never but many people assume it’s his original power