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Where does it say that Gil's lightning is 30K Celsius?We scale using Gil’s natural thunderstorm lightning heat
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Where does it say that Gil's lightning is 30K Celsius?We scale using Gil’s natural thunderstorm lightning heat
Read the Notes in his profile Robonaruto doesn't have low 5-b dura
bro im so dumbRead the Notes in his profile Robo
In the profiles or your personal opinionI can’t see Part 2 Naruto being Low 5-B idek
Didn't you literally make a Q&A thread about Zettatons?bro im so dumb
i thought zettatons is 5-C
yesDidn't you literally make a Q&A thread about Zettatons?
Vanish counter1. what's VC?
Basically once he deflects 1 attack all the nearest attacks go back to the person that Send it2. Of course, he can deflect multiple attacks if coming together in same direction, I never argued against that just that he needed some form of touch.
Not senjutsu aka natural energy, magic in NNT involve natural energy/natural elements3. One that nulls all form of jutsu
- Destruction-Type「破壊型, Hakai-gata」: Allows the user to exert power with destructive properties, with natural forces like thunder or flame, or a unnatural dark force.
Just saw that4. naruto durability at the lowest in his cloaked form is 800+ exatons while mel and his darkness is 700+ exatons and again naruto is invulnerable
Stamina wise ?5. Still not close to naruto
Basically erasing shit, Blud erased DK’s arm cause he tried to touch him6. oh you mean true magic? what's special about it?
What ? True magic ? Search the EE part7. Tag where it is on his profile
He had that Power even in purgatory that’s where he used it8. What? no his EE comes from destroying the demo king with his own demon king power.
He still has itHe lost it and even if it is granted back to him it is irrelevant here as naruto is resistant. Mel himself is not resistant to EE
Cause it’s way to dangerous to be used in normal circumstances, he used it and destroyed his arm9. It is his DK. You are just twisting narrative. If it was just his true magic then why did he not just use true magic to destroy him?
He wanted to reign through normal means not using fear as a motivewhy did he have to give up his DK powers? you are making his sacrifice pointless
It’s around 8 to 9 times higher with enchantments, his magic is destroyer type magic it won’t get dispelled10. No mel ap is actually quite lower. Only version 2x superior to naruto own is when he uses magic imbued weaponry which is pointless and naruto both nulls his magic but is also invulnerable to his magic
What attack ??11. So demon king directly stating the name of his attack is not a spell?
The commandments were sealed and had no magic tho they were using darkness to fly etc… it’s litteraly part of their body that’s a limb to themalso scan for darkness being non magical
Mb I just misread Naruto’s profile it wasn’t in order so I thought he was 5-C+12. read again. SBA strongest forms (low 5b with kurama six path sage mode) Ironically if you start naruto from base by the time he goes full power he blitzes and one shots
The powernull doesn’t even work and Meli resists his own EE powers13. Decimate power null and EE ?
Meliodas knew he could not steal God cause it would automatically get taken back by DK14. Borrowed power is not the commandment. The demon king specifically stated the power he borrowed him was God when he attacked zeldris plus why would zeldris just decide not to use God to defend himself. Also saying he wanted to take his commandment but then found out it was useless but then went ahead to say the alternative is to take commandments is counter productive.
Mhmh i’ll trust you on this one15. My bad i can't find it. either way amaterasu scales above sasuke lightning. naruto can also erase hellblaze
Mel’s magic wouldn’t get erased or powernulled it’s similar to senjutsuI honestly don't see mel wining in any scenario . While yes naruto cannot use jutsu due to FC the same is true about mel as all his magical attacks would either be erased, power nulled or if any of them manage to escape just won't work due to naruto's invulnerability. This match comes down to hand to hand and considering naruto has the higher speed amps, ESP and higher reactions coupled with analytic prediction I don't see mel winning. Naruto also has the slight ap advantage going by DM2 to Kurama cloaked and can further increase it with his avatar and even 3 times with asura mode.
When was it implied that Meliodas, by the time of 4KoA, still has his True Magic?He still has it
Cause it’s way to dangerous to be used in normal circumstances, he used it and destroyed his arm
He wanted to reign through normal means not using fear as a motive
Natural thunderstorm lightning heatWhere does it say that Gil's lightning is 30K Celsius?
That’s his true magic power… he had it in season 1 the author also stated in the Q&A that he’ll use it again in 4KotaWhen was it implied that Meliodas, by the time of 4KoA, still has his True Magic?
Basically they are close to each others in DM and far higher with other forms Meliodas has a 10x amp that puts him around 8 to 9 times higher and can use natural forces or his darkness to bypass the ninjutsu barrierThere is A LOT going on in both pages so I'm not so sure what's going on with either of them. All I'm seeing is a bunch of "higher and far higher."
Which is 5X the heat of the sun though, 27,800 CNatural thunderstorm lightning heat
Season 1 of what? The 4KoA anime?That’s his true magic power… he had it in season 1
So is there actually any thing that hints he still has it other than the Author?the author also stated in the Q&A that he’ll use it again in 4Kota
It's like you didn't understand the question.That’s like asking « what proves ban can still use his snatch magic » that’s just his innate magical power.
So when did I say FC was his true power?FC never was his true power
if this is true then he would have been more than like 70 zettatonsMeliodas has a 10x amp that puts him around 8 to 9 times higher
He's not saying Meliodas is 70 Zettatonsif this is true then he would have been more than like 70 zettatons
but he is 7 zetta
Yeah around thatWhich is 5X the heat of the sun though, 27,800 C
SDSSeason 1 of what? The 4KoA anime?
That’s Just His magic, he has it Just like an ice mage can use his ice magicSo is there actually any thing that hints he still has it other than the Author?
It's like you didn't understand the question.
He never stated that he’d lost his True magic he lost his DK formI'm asking if he still has True Magic, because Meliodas stated he lost that power in order to destroy his father's power
Never but many people assume it’s his original powerSo when did I say FC was his true power?
1. Yeah later realisedVanish counter
Basically once he deflects 1 attack all the nearest attacks go back to the person that Send it
Not senjutsu aka natural energy, magic in NNT involve natural energy/natural elements
Just saw that
Stamina wise ?
Meliodas can last hours spamming Darkness tendrils, giant pillars etc…
Basically erasing shit, Blud erased DK’s arm cause he tried to touch him
What ? True magic ? Search the EE part
He had that Power even in purgatory that’s where he used it
He still has it
Cause it’s way to dangerous to be used in normal circumstances, he used it and destroyed his arm
He wanted to reign through normal means not using fear as a motive
It’s around 8 to 9 times higher with enchantments, his magic is destroyer type magic it won’t get dispelled
What attack ??
The commandments were sealed and had no magic tho they were using darkness to fly etc… it’s litteraly part of their body that’s a limb to them
Mb I just misread Naruto’s profile it wasn’t in order so I thought he was 5-C+
The powernull doesn’t even work and Meli resists his own EE powers
Meliodas knew he could not steal God cause it would automatically get taken back by DK
Mhmh i’ll trust you on this one
Mel’s magic wouldn’t get erased or powernulled it’s similar to senjutsu
Meli has AM + his enchantments and can use magic as well as just spamming his darkness
Would Meliodas be able to reflect Naruto's chakra arms? If they are energy infused it should work that's like when he reflected twigos magic imbued sword swings.1. Yeah later realised
2. not how naruto clones work. He is surrounded 360
3. i suggest you go and read up what senjutsu is. What you linked are natural elements which is different from senjutsu. For example sasuke kirin is not senjutsu. Your arguments are like saying In a cross match up anyone that has spiritual energy will resist RC
4. That's not erasure. The difference between me and you is I'm going by profiles and you're just ass pulling. Not like this matters coz naruto is resistant
5. Please link it coz it seems i can't read
6. this pointless as naruto resists EE
7. Link him erasing someone in 4KOA
8. No I'm asking why mel did not use his true magic to destroy the DK and used his DK powers instead
9. NGl at this point you are just being disingenuous. The exact words of Mel was if i use my DK powers I can destroy him and merlin said "but you will loose it"
10. Read the profile again. Naruto Ap goes up to 5zt in asura mode. Mel ap with destroyer magic would be 7zt. And destroyer magic is getting erased and nulled unless you link me to the part of mel's profile that shows this
11. It's linked in the scan
14. Link mel resistance to power null and EE
15. Link the scan for your claim. This is pure headcanon
17. Does mel magic turn people to stone? does it give people ESP? Mel magic is the farthest thing from senjutsu.
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Twigo is very weird. He might have launched a magical attack coming out of his sword coz mel fought so many sword users after but never did that again. Also naruto chakra arms are just kurama so I don't think soWould Meliodas be able to reflect Naruto's chakra arms? If they are energy infused it should work that's like when he reflected twigos magic imbued sword swings.
But it was a magical-infused physical attack. It should work because chakra is an energy and the chakra arms are energy-infused physical attacks.Twigo is very weird. He might have launched a magical attack coming out of his sword coz mel fought so many sword users after but never did that again. Also naruto chakra arms are just kurama so I don't think so
can we get much higher? (so high)There is A LOT going on in both pages so I'm not so sure what's going on with either of them. All I'm seeing is a bunch of "higher and far higher."
chakra arms have to do with tailed beast physiology itself. It's raw chakra. Kinda like raw manaBut it was a magical-infused physical attack. It should work because chakra is an energy and the chakra arms are energy-infused physical attacks.
It’s still non physical energy and should be able to be reflected again FC has worked on non magical things before.chakra arms have to do with tailed beast physiology itself. It's raw chakra. Kinda like raw mana
non magical =/ non physicalIt’s still non physical energy and should be able to be reflected again FC has worked on non magical things before.
It is a fist.It’s still non physical energy
It’s still chakra infused and the damage can be reflected as seen with twigo.non magical =/ non physical
Say a magic user amps their punch with chakra it’s still chakra infused so it should be able to be reflected. All twigo did was amp his sword swing with some magic and it was reflected back at him.It is a fist.
Which remains energy, doesn't change anythingIt is a fist.
Nice trynon magical =/ non physical
Verse equalization: Similar supernatural aspects of verses get equalized in a reasonable fashion. So a supernatural energy that almost everyone in a Verse has, which is necessary to fight the characters of said Verse, will be assumed to be the equivalent energy that the opponents use in their techniques so that a proper fight can happen.
It absolutely does not work that way. If not people like escanor using his clearly magical overwhelming finger as the one would not harm mel or mael would not hurt zeldris with helios flair while he has God. Stop the capIt’s still chakra infused and the damage can be reflected as seen with twigo.
Say a magic user amps their punch with chakra it’s still chakra infused so it should be able to be reflected. All twigo did was amp his sword swing with some magic and it was reflected back at him.
I'm going to ignore this as i don't see the relevanceWhich remains energy, doesn't change anything
Nice try
K1. Yeah later realised
And ? Attacks that are in the vicinity of the counter up to tens of meters are going to get deflected2. not how naruto clones work. He is surrounded 360
Senjutsu is Just them using natural energy and mixing it with chakra.3. i suggest you go and read up what senjutsu is. What you linked are natural elements which is different from senjutsu. For example sasuke kirin is not senjutsu. Your arguments are like saying In a cross match up anyone that has spiritual energy will resist RC
Then he would get deconstructed4. That's not erasure. The difference between me and you is I'm going by profiles and you're just ass pulling. Not like this matters coz naruto is resistant
5. Please link it coz it seems i can't read
Curse Manipulation, Non-Physical Interaction and Existence Erasure (with True Magic Power,[56][57] erased Demon King's existence leaving nothing behind not even his consciousness)
Mel can deconstruct him, he deconstructed DK that has High ranking demon physiology6. this pointless as naruto resists EE
I don’t need to7. Link him erasing someone in 4KOA
He did use His TMF8. No I'm asking why mel did not use his true magic to destroy the DK and used his DK powers instead
He’d lose the commandments9. NGl at this point you are just being disingenuous. The exact words of Mel was if i use my DK powers I can destroy him and merlin said "but you will loose it"
Destroyer enchantments aka his sword infused with darkness which isn’t a magical substance10. Read the profile again. Naruto Ap goes up to 5zt in asura mode. Mel ap with destroyer magic would be 7zt.
And destroyer magic is getting erased and nulled unless you link me to the part of mel's profile that shows this
??11. It's linked in the scan
It seems like Ark isn’t considered as EE anymore despite erasing body and mind14. Link mel resistance to power null and EE
- Light Manipulation, Holy Manipulation, Limited Power Nullification, Limited Deconstruction and Soul Destruction(Higher-level Demons can withstand Ark[36]. Besides, when they transform into Indura, they are completely unaffected by Ludoshel's Ark[37])
For ? Him knowing DK can take God back ?15. Link the scan for your claim. This is pure headcanon
It’s magic infused with natural Energy like natural elements the same way senjutsu is chakra mixed With natural energy17. Does mel magic turn people to stone? does it give people ESP? Mel magic is the farthest thing from senjutsu.
15.
How does verse equilization has no relevance into the thread? It heavily mattersI'm going to ignore this as i don't see the relevance
If his TMF was a one time use form then explain me how he used it 3 times ?Which is 5X the heat of the sun though, 27,800 C
Season 1 of what? The 4KoA anime?
So is there actually any thing that hints he still has it other than the Author?
It's like you didn't understand the question.
I'm asking if he still has True Magic, because Meliodas stated he lost that power in order to destroy his father's power
So when did I say FC was his true power?
Can't Meliodas easily win throught Hellblaze, Deconstruction and Soul Destruction? I don't see Naruto countering that even with Shadow ClonesIf his TMF was a one time use form then explain me how he used it 3 times ?
1) Chapter 306 when he destroyed the curses
2) Chapter 312 when he destroyed them again
3) When he destroyed them again and abandonned the commandments power
If his TMF was a one time use form then explain me how he used it 3 times ?
makai we are going in circles so let's drop this. Mixing magic with natural element would be likened to mixing chakra with natural elements. Case and point sasuke kirin. By your logic kirin would be senjutsu but it isn't. You fundamentally don't know what kirin is. Let other people vote and decide. I'm exhaustedK
And ? Attacks that are in the vicinity of the counter up to tens of meters are going to get deflected
Senjutsu is Just them using natural energy and mixing it with chakra.
The same way destroyer type magic mix magic and natural elements.
Then he would get deconstructed
Mel can deconstruct him, he deconstructed DK that has High ranking demon physiology
I don’t need to
He did use His TMF
He’d lose the commandments
Destroyer enchantments aka his sword infused with darkness which isn’t a magical substance
??
It seems like Ark isn’t considered as EE anymore despite erasing body and mind
But high ranking demons resist it’s powernull effects
For ? Him knowing DK can take God back ?
It’s magic infused with natural Energy like natural elements the same way senjutsu is chakra mixed With natural energy
We can also play dumb going with Meliodas just resisting magic lmao
Wow gg Meliodas resists Naruto’s ninjutsu attacks and dispell his chakra barriers passively with negative energy
Naruto can’t null Darkness, can’t null Meliodas enchantment, Meli can just null magic as long as it’s on a similar level to his
If his TMF was a one time use form then explain me how he used it 3 times ?
How can Naruto manage Soul Destruction?The only reason I'm not doing a SDS downgrade RN is because it would look like a spite thread
He is being heavily disingenous. MEl still has TM but he lost his DK form to erae said DKYou really didn't understand the question
tag it from Mel's profile firstHow can Naruto manage Soul Destruction?
Mb, I miss readed it (its a resistance he had). But how will Naruto counter that:tag it from Mel's profile first
- Soul Manipulation (Demons can remove[7] and eat souls[4], as well as destroy them completely and gain knowledge of others by eating their souls[8])