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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

Ghostimuscrime said:
summary please
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Talks about Itachi being KCM Naruto level at peak but gradually deteriorates, Obito being between KCM1 and KCM2 Naruto, analyzes all the direct comparisons between them, especially the Amaterasu thing and whether Obito used Izanagi or Kamui (he made a convincing case for Kamui), and the conclusions was that Obito in most scenarios outlasts Itachi and wins.
 
I hope Shibai does not get a profile until we are well into Middle or late of TBV, cuz as of rn it’d be criminal downplay as though one is making a Hagoromo profile during kazekage arc naruto serialisation
 
MinatoSparkle said:
Talks about Itachi being KCM Naruto level at peak but gradually deteriorates, Obito being between KCM1 and KCM2 Naruto, analyzes all the direct comparisons between them, especially the Amaterasu thing and whether Obito used Izanagi or Kamui (he made a convincing case for Kamui), and the conclusions was that Obito in most scenarios outlasts Itachi and wins.
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Oh hell na that shit is so asssss, thanks for saving my time
 
Ghostimuscrime said:
I hope Shibai does not get a profile until we are well into Middle or late of TBV, cuz as of rn it’d be criminal downplay as though one is making a Hagoromo profile during kazekage arc naruto serialisation
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Well if a profile is accepted for him. I Guess we can start scaling then. We will just slap 2C on him.
 
Itachi who?
ナルトの父親にして木ノ葉の里始まって以来の天才忍者。九尾の襲撃から里を守って死に「里の英雄」と呼ばれていた。
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Ghostimuscrime said:
Hey Shadow this CRT finally got 3 votes, can I please have Kaguya's profile unlocked now
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Kaguya’s Big Black Balls Solo Dbz Part 1/3

Intro: It was advised that this thread that it be split into 3 threads for more efficient arguing. The current interpretation of Kaguya’s ETSO (Expansive Truth-Seeking Orb) in relation to its size and scale is flawed when considering the statements and narrative in the series. These series of...
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maybe
 
Ghostimuscrime said:
I hope Shibai does not get a profile until we are well into Middle or late of TBV, cuz as of rn it’d be criminal downplay as though one is making a Hagoromo profile during kazekage arc naruto serialisation
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im pretty sure its being worked on atm and he will prob scale above the ETSO pre ascension
 
Samlex1234 said:
It depends on how high above, for it to be or not still be a downplay.
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let's leave it tbh, God Forms are what shouldn't be downplayed, we barely know anything regarding pre ascension shibai so being above etso isnt bad


although I dont think he needs a non god key, there's nothing in the narrative regarding his base being relevant at all, hes special because he reached the otustsuki goal of becoming god
 
Ghostimuscrime said:
let's leave it tbh, God Forms are what shouldn't be downplayed, we barely know anything regarding pre ascension shibai so being above etso isnt bad


although I dont think he needs a non god key, there's nothing in the narrative regarding his base being relevant at all, hes special because he reached the otustsuki goal of becoming god
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The non ascended key is what would currently be allowed to be used in vs battles. That’s why it’s being included.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
The non ascended key is what would currently be allowed to be used in vs battles. That’s why it’s being included.
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I don’t know what you guys mean by non-ascension key.
Shibai's base form is his God form. Or at least he has all the same power he has in his ascension form in his base. Shibai completed the requirement for godhood when he ate the last fruit that caused him to complete the requirement for godhood. He did not become a god after he discarded his body. In fact, he still had his body on after godhood but decided to discard it when he deemed it not necessary.
 
Samlex1234 said:
I don’t know what you guys mean by non-ascension key.
Shibai's base form is his God form. Or at least he has all the same power he has in his ascension form in his base. Shibai completed the requirement for godhood when he ate the last fruit that caused him to complete the requirement for godhood. He did not become a god after he discarded his body. In fact, he still had his body on after godhood but decided to discard it when he deemed it not necessary.
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Non-ascension = when he still had a physical body
 
Only in Naruto General can you find people complaining about someone putting hours of work and time to deliver a high quality profile for the verse. And why do people complain? His AP isn’t high enough for them 😔 sometimes y’all can be insufferable. Thankfully, your respectable vs supporters like Shadow, Net, Nierre, Test, Slayer, Tracer, Deceived, and Sparkle, etc. aren’t like that. Cuz elsewise nothing would ever get done with this verse lol
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Only in Naruto General can you find people complaining about someone putting hours of work and time to deliver a high quality profile for the verse. And why do people complain? His AP isn’t high enough for them 😔 sometimes y’all can be insufferable. Thankfully, your respectable vs supporters like Shadow, Net, Nierre, Test, Slayer, Tracer, Deceived, and Sparkle, etc. aren’t like that. Cuz elsewise nothing would ever get done with this verse lol
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No don't do that. Stop that gaslighting trash.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Only in Naruto General can you find people complaining about someone putting hours of work and time to deliver a high quality profile for the verse. And why do people complain? His AP isn’t high enough for them 😔 sometimes y’all can be insufferable. Thankfully, your respectable vs supporters like Shadow, Net, Nierre, Test, Slayer, Tracer, Deceived, and Sparkle, etc. aren’t like that. Cuz elsewise nothing would ever get done with this verse lol
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I have already spoken with deceive, and though I think it is OK to create a profile, I do not 100 percent agree with it as I believe it would downplay the characterr heavily. But again. this is verse battle wiki we don't gatekeep CRT
 
downplaying would be actively trying to avoid scaling him to highest thing we have for the verse on the wiki, if you think specific value is too low then thats not an issue with the profile but your point of reference for scaling. in this case ETSO.

also its not like we scaling the transcended version of shibai and just actively trying to cap him at a level, it would be for the version we have enough information about
 
Samlex1234 said:
I have already spoken with deceive, and though I think it is OK to create a profile, I do not 100 percent agree with it as I believe it would downplay the characterr heavily. But again. this is verse battle wiki we don't gatekeep CRT
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First, whether you think it’s ok to create the profile or not doesn’t mean anything. Second, it’s fine to disagree with rating. Third, good on you for realizing that last point.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Only in Naruto General can you find people complaining about someone putting hours of work and time to deliver a high quality profile for the verse. And why do people complain? His AP isn’t high enough for them 😔 sometimes y’all can be insufferable. Thankfully, your respectable vs supporters like Shadow, Net, Nierre, Test, Slayer, Tracer, Deceived, and Sparkle, etc. aren’t like that. Cuz elsewise nothing would ever get done with this verse lol
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oh brother spare me the talk
We-
actually nvm
go ahead, publish it, if it gets accepted I'll congratulate and thank Deceived on his hard work
 
Respectfully, ya'll's opinions on this just don't matter lmao. The profile will go up whether you like it or not.

And thank god for that, because it's actually quite a phenomenal profile. It'll be one of the absolute best this verse has seen from a quality perspective, which should be the only thing that matters in this discussion.

On behalf of everyone in the fandom, I wanna thank Deceived for putting in so much time and effort into this. He's been working on it for literal months.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
It’s not gaslighting, it’s just the truth. Literally day in and day out, it’s the same suspects whining.
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No, it’s not. People spend months creating CRTs to propose upgrades or downgrades, and it’s perfectly fine for others to disagree. However, what you can’t do is say, “I’m doing you a favor, so you should agree with me.” Just because you upgrade a character from planetary to star level, while others might scale that character to solar level, doesn’t mean everyone must accept your rating.
Please don’t try to create division among us. In fact, many users here don’t even want a profile for the character yet, while others do—and that’s completely fine. AP is an essential factor in scaling, and this is a debate forum, after all.
 
Samlex1234 said:
No don't do that. Stop that gaslighting trash.
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let's drop this tbh

complaining about shibai ap is the same as complaining about every other naruto character's profile. if we have an issue we sort it ourselves with crts

Personally I don't have much to say regarding where they choose to put his AP in
The only contention I had is feeling that the profile is made too early with minimal chances of being able to display feats and scaling
Similar to seeing a new shinobi and slapping on a "at least human level" or "comparable to other shinobi" when it is hinted on being massively higher
since the wiki helps how people perceive power levels of characters I feel that it would ruin his real tiering being taken seriously if a lower one is slapped on him
If it does get passed, well not much to do
 
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