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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
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I agree that creating a character profile should not be gatekeeped. However making a profile withholding valuable information to keep the character at a lower tier can be considered disingenuous ( I don't think deceive is though as his main goal is to get the profile passed). My problem is we can't just say well, we don't have enough information about the character and still create a profile. If we are going to do that, let's use all the information we have. Thus, I agree with the profile but disagree with the AP rating.
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i think samlex thinks you're specifically accusing him of complaining n stuffI’m not gatekeeping anything buddy. I don’t know how many times I can tell you that 1) idc if you disagree that’s your prerogative and 2) you’re allowed to disagree. Stop putting words in my mouth
It is 100% OKAY for you to disagree with the AP buddy. Read what I’m saying again for fvck’s sake.
the whole thing is a big ass misunderstanding
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Deceived is using everything we currently have at our disposal. Like, he just factually is.
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No one involved in the profile’s creation is withholding any vital information that disingenuously downplays the character. The only withholding of information is that the manga could reveal more stuff. Deceived is quite literally working with all the information we have on Shibai to make the profile. It’s just that right now the people working on the profile don’t believe the current information warrants tier 2, meanwhile you disagree and think it does. This has nothing to do with dishonesty or gatekeeping anything for his AP you goober.
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Well, that is true to some extent, and there is other stuff like Isshiki's abilities, which I don't wholly agree with. What I'm arguing for, and you should know by now, is Omnipotence being capable of constructing a low 2c world. Well, for this, I'm already working on my argument, which I will propose later if deceived CRT is accepted. Like I said, I'm indifferent to the profile; however, the fact that Arc is coming here trying to make it look bad and set me up for backlash for disagreeing with the AP is the problem.
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Don't call me goober, you downplayer. They don't know about you like I do. I will pray for you, Slayer, and I believe you will be free from Arc sooner or later. You will see the light, just hold on tight.
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the fck was that????
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Ok goober. They know me better than you
you’re so corny
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This was all I said below.
This was his reply
He called out a few names to mainly separate the fandom supporters. This right here is called Divide and conquer. Oh all this other guys are the only respectable supporters in the verse. Bet they liked the comment too. Meanwhile all I said was the rating is a downplay. The fact that all this played out like this just for a single disagreement says a lot, but whatever.Only in Naruto General can you find people complaining about someone putting hours of work and time to deliver a high quality profile for the verse. And why do people complain? His AP isn’t high enough for themsometimes y’all can be insufferable. Thankfully, your respectable vs supporters like Shadow, Net, Nierre, Test, Slayer, Tracer, Deceived, and Sparkle, etc. aren’t like that. Cuz elsewise nothing would ever get done with this verse lol
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He said etc.
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Samlex has selective reading and likes to paint me as a grand villain bent on only downplaying this verse
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currently on the wiki KCM 1 Naruto and V1 Karma Boruto (pre true essence and all that) are close-ish stats, boruto being stronger but the gap not being x10 or anything, who you guys got winning?
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My point still stands. There is a separation between those that are satisfied with the godtier Ap and those that are not. This Arc is a big hypocrite ask him how long he has been working on 2c bleach, even right now with the rating past galaxy level he still constantly working on upgrading the verse which I have no problem with. But for some reason he wants every naruto fans to accept the current rating for the Verse and keep quiet.
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Whew, here we go again.
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boruto sends naruto's decapitated head flying
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man please
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Boruto, with karma he can absorbs an ninjutsu that Naruto throws at him and AP-wise his> honestly off my head I don't know if naruto has any Wincon.
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Lex it’s not downplay to create a profile with all the concrete feats/information that we currently have. We don’t have to wait for a character to showcase their true potential to create a profile lol
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BFR and absorption are kinda tuff ngl. Prolly Bort for me.
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Naruto bodies imo. even if you want to argue speed equal, Naruto still has his Shunshin which Boruto will def struggle against. I don't think Boruto has the reaction speed to respond to his Shunshin (which he uses in character). Naruto is more skilled, has more experience, superior close combat fighter, far higher chakra pool so he can spam more clones faster and better(?) than Boruto can defeat them. Boruto's best wincons are AP, Karma (rift and absorption), but Naruto doesn't need to use absorbable ninjutsu to defeat him
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Does naruto get mentioned by other general threads, with the time ive spent on here im a bit surprised that no one discusses one piece vs naruto here, its just bleach vs naruto with bleach being concluded stronger
on twitter its naruto bleach and op consistently being included in discussions
on twitter its naruto bleach and op consistently being included in discussions
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“Ssgengar,” Honestly, I will just let this die. It is fine. Please next time read the whole arguments before choosing sides.
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it happened a ton after the wano revisions completed, but they've slowed down now
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That's because everyone here know Naruto absolutely bodies One Piece. It's not really a discussion if we're being fr.
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I'm not particularly happy with the current God Tier ratings either
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naturally I heavily agree but wiki stats wise, before net and test came in clutch with their threads naruto got pushed back as the weakest hst verse for a while
below 1 zettaton in ap and 2.11c speeds compared to OP god tiers with more than 1 zettaton and 10.66c
even now theyre both in the same tier (tier 5)
it makes much more sense to do naruto vs op match ups instead of bleach as they bleed into tier 3 and mftl (almost 50x faster compared to back then)
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I think bleach vs naruto is discussed more here because there’s quite a few bleach supporters that are active on this thread. From what I’ve seen if naruto is brought up in the OP thread it’s just him getting shit on lmao
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The two Bleach supporters (Deceived and I) never bring up cross verse Bleach Naruto match ups here. It only gets brought up when people complain that I scale Bleach to 2C but not Naruto
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I thought you didnt care about GT stuff
smh typical op fanbase behaviour
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bleach vs naruto is barely discussed here because its such a ridiculous stomp
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There was a lot of Naruto vs OP matches being made a while back. It just kinda slowed down after dozens of threads ended in "genjutsu gg" stomps.
Stats aside tho, Naruto beats One Piece because of its superior hax, not really its stats (although it beats it there too IMO). This is also why we don't get a lot of Naruto vs Bleach matches anymore either, Bleach just went kinda crazy with the hax they got.
