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The original kanji for CM said numeric 10, it didn’t say dozens or tens

Just straight up “10” in the English number,

I haven’t seen evidence for the amp being multiplicative rather than additive but I’ve seen db fans get away with similar additive leaning statements and get away with establishing multipliers so you COULD argue about it ig, you can scale people above max potential choji with some good reasoning I don’t think anyone would be against that if that’s what you meant by chain scale
That's fine someone else translated it and they came up with dozens but it doesn't matter.

I was assuming since it should be multiplicative since it uses "times" lol but yes referring to scaling this butterfly Choji whomever is stated stronger should get this chainscale too
 
That's fine someone else translated it and they came up with dozens but it doesn't matter.

I was assuming since it should be multiplicative since it uses "times" lol but yes referring to scaling this butterfly Choji whomever is stated stronger should get this chainscale too
Well, I don’t see any issues, people stated far stronger than Choji should easily be scaled above his multiplied form.
Kido's stuff is a bit more complex than a bijuu amp
The tailed beast drug was made out of:
1. Kurama's chakra (so not applicable to any other jinchuriki)
2. Naruto's cells (which already contains six paths chakra)
3. A base fashioned out of cells from a descendant of Hagoromo

The only "mode" that somewhat qualifies for all 3 is naruto's six paths sage mode
But a 1000x multiplier isn't exactly consistent with spsm
Believe me, I've tried.
I’m not done reading it but based on the OP would it not be reasonable to allow the 1000x increase for Naruto’s war arc SPSM? I think that’s more logical than upgrading his new era forms
 
Kido's stuff is a bit more complex than a bijuu amp
The tailed beast drug was made out of:
1. Kurama's chakra (so not applicable to any other jinchuriki)
2. Naruto's cells (which already contains six paths chakra)
3. A base fashioned out of cells from a descendant of Hagoromo

The only "mode" that somewhat qualifies for all 3 is naruto's six paths sage mode
But a 1000x multiplier isn't exactly consistent with spsm
Believe me, I've tried.
Granted it's Kurama's chakra it's not different than the other Jinchuriki, not that I see.
Only time he really spilt blood was in base unless the novel clarifies SPSM.
Eh...I believe this was only as a base like you said to just grow the cells, doesn't seem like it's amping them tbh.

1000x sounds like a cool argument ngl might be consistent with the other multipliers or something.
 
The original kanji for CM said numeric 10, it didn’t say dozens or tens

Just straight up “10” in the English number,
The Jirobo statement says more than 10 times and the Sakon statement says tens/dozens of times.
これまでの10倍以上の力を出せる"状態2"に敵はいない・・・・・
あの右目ヤローが出てきてただでさえ絶望的なのにチャクラが数十倍に上がっただと・・・
 
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The Jirobo statement says more than 10 times and the Sakon statement says tens/dozens of times.
これまでの10倍以上の力を出せる"状態2"に敵はいない・・・・・
あの右目ヤローが出てきてただでさえ絶望的なのにチャクラが数十倍に上がっただと・・・
Uh oh, that’s bad for downscaling


Also tens/dozens? Let’s upgrade to 24x 😈
 
Well, I don’t see any issues, people stated far stronger than Choji should easily be scaled above his multiplied form.

I’m not done reading it but based on the OP would it not be reasonable to allow the 1000x increase for Naruto’s war arc SPSM? I think that’s more logical than upgrading his new era forms
Base Naruto is like 7-B/ 6-C while SPSM is tier 5
It's redundant
 
 
not at all, its fairly common word to use to described anything thats meant to emphasize something on a large scale "the vast distance of planets makes space exploration hard"

that being said my comment wasnt really referring to the viz translation but the original kanji which uses 遠, which means far, or distant ect.
I'm sorry for bringing this up a third time here but can I get an answer for this?
 
Is this CRT appliable since it's got 2 votes, OP dumped naruto for DCEU midway
nah
In cases where the series verse has a significant following or a large amount of material has been published based on its content, it may be necessary to seek approval from a minimum of three staff members to ensure that all relevant parties are aware of and agree with the proposed revisions (Examples: Naruto, Marvel Comics, DC Comics, Dragon Ball, Devil May Cry, God of War, One Piece, Bleach).
it is a minor thread as it doesn't affect the tiering but better to be safe than sorry
 
The Jirobo statement says more than 10 times and the Sakon statement says tens/dozens of times.
これまでの10倍以上の力を出せる"状態2"に敵はいない・・・・・
あの右目ヤローが出てきてただでさえ絶望的なのにチャクラが数十倍に上がっただと・・・
Can you put this in the translation requests thread, if a proper translator deems it, it may receive the “several dozen” answer for it’s translation, I’ve seen that with Guy’s 8 Gates

As we know “can mean low end” ≠ “should mean low end”
 
Can you put this in the translation requests thread, if a proper translator deems it, it may receive the “several dozen” answer for it’s translation, I’ve seen that with Guy’s 8 Gates

As we know “can mean low end” ≠ “should mean low end”
 
Hate it when they stay conservative when it can mean higher, anyways at least they said other interpretations are also valid

this is what I got after I asked ChatGPT
Translation 1 (Literal):
"So... you're saying that horn isn't just for show...? That right-eyed bastard appeared, and even though the situation was already hopeless, his chakra increased several dozen times..."



Translation 2 (Natural phrasing):
"So... that horn really isn't just for show, huh? That guy with the right eye showed up, and his chakra multiplied tens of times, even in such a dire situation..."



Translation 3 (Emphasized tone):
"So... that horn actually has some power behind it? That right-eyed fool showed up, and even in a completely hopeless situation, his chakra skyrocketed dozens of times!"



Translation 4 (Formal):
"I see... so the horn is not merely decorative? When that man with the right eye appeared, his chakra increased tens of times, even in the midst of a desperate situation."



Translation 5 (Colloquial):
"Oh, so that horn’s not just for show, huh? That guy with the right eye came out, and even though things were already hopeless, his chakra jumped up by dozens of times!"


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This what it says when asked which interpretation is best

So I think 24x should be best for a mid end (dozens)
20 (tens) being low end
36 (several dozen) being high end
 
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This what it says when asked which interpretation is best
That isn't a valid interpretation though, literally just "big number = good," if you'd said "thousands," it'd pick that.
 
The purpose is to be accurate not as high as possible
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Hate it when they stay conservative when it can mean higher, anyways at least they said other interpretations are also valid

this is what I got after I asked ChatGPT
Translation 1 (Literal):
"So... you're saying that horn isn't just for show...? That right-eyed bastard appeared, and even though the situation was already hopeless, his chakra increased several dozen times..."



Translation 2 (Natural phrasing):
"So... that horn really isn't just for show, huh? That guy with the right eye showed up, and his chakra multiplied tens of times, even in such a dire situation..."



Translation 3 (Emphasized tone):
"So... that horn actually has some power behind it? That right-eyed fool showed up, and even in a completely hopeless situation, his chakra skyrocketed dozens of times!"



Translation 4 (Formal):
"I see... so the horn is not merely decorative? When that man with the right eye appeared, his chakra increased tens of times, even in the midst of a desperate situation."



Translation 5 (Colloquial):
"Oh, so that horn’s not just for show, huh? That guy with the right eye came out, and even though things were already hopeless, his chakra jumped up by dozens of times!"


https://media.**********.net/attachments/1103829419296034856/1312247158942077089/image.png?ex=674bcce7&is=674a7b67&hm=115e2eae401df1a865a75b143c07306948340c3cd41bcf1d1cf7db5ad8671df7&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=2004&height=1186
This what it says when asked which interpretation is best

So I think 24x should be best for a mid end (dozens)
20 (tens) being low end
36 (several dozen) being high end
🦍🦍🦍
 
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