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Yeah.... Since we don't actually see the direct hit of Chidori on-screen, I'm a bit wary of it.
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
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Would the Chidori being disrupted not make it kinda just blow up? I guess that might be more of a Rasengan thing, since Chidori isn't really compressed.
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Chidori’s really just a fast thrust covered in lightning chakra so yeah it doesn’t explode.
Rasengan being a ball of spinning energy could tho yeah.
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Well, Rasengan and Chidori explode on collision, so it has to do with the mix-up I think?
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I would say he either blocked it or got hit in the face.
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It is super whack, I'll admit. But tbf, the Shuriken sorta caught him off-guard. Whereas the Chidori he saw coming and could presumably brace for.
Not saying it's a 100% or anything, but we know how much seeing stuff coming can affect Naruto characters' ability to withstand them sometimes.
Chidori does explode/cause explosions on occasion, but it's pretty much always when it comes into contact with something (best examples I can think of are the Rasengan-Chidori clashes and Sasuke blowing up the meteor in The Last). As far as I recall, it never happened without the Chidori establishing contact with something.
That's kinda where I'm at as well.
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Chidori might explode when it’s in contact with other chakra ig then
Because most of the time it’s just a jab
Rin didn’t explode into a million pieces after Kakashi stabbed her. Neither did Naruto, Gaara’s Sand Shield, etc.
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Yeah, and also it's possible that this is something that the user has some level of control over this given what Kakashi says here. So this could be used to square away why sometimes it's just a lightning-enhanced punch/thrust, and other times.....Well, it's shit like this lol.
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Susanoo maybe? Idk
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I love Pain arc more but Namek Saga is objectively more iconic
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I'm aware, I specifically worded it like I did because of that. It's not necessary, but it's more likely than not.
Boruto wasn't able to just duck Hidari's Chidori and slam the Rasengan into him though. I'm fine with Konohamaru being below Code, I even did that on my list, but I don't think reacting to someone means you're fully relative, just not a blitz tier slower.
It was a sneak attack so I wouldn't take much stock in that
Being >> isn't necessarily massive, just significant. Hidari>Code is fine too.
I agree. Naruto can be better while DB is still good
Eh you could interpret it like that, but Eida's acting like he just can't deal with them at all, and it's not like they're always together or anything.
He's not complete fodder to that tier, but being able to help to some extent and being significantly weaker/slower aren't contradictory.
As you know, reaction speed isn't the same as combat speed, and I wouldn't particularly take the Boruto feat too seriously anyways given Boruto's demeanor and the fact that he acted like his attack went according to plan anyways (he also didn't even try to push his arm toward Code after having it caught, his reaction was pretty much just "ok"). I'm fine with Base Code in the same blitz tier as Boruto though.
It's really not arbitrary. Out of someone's league = faster is a completely normal interpretation. Certainly no less an assumption than applying it to AP. Maybe WK Code could be slightly comparable, but a pretty loose relativity that'd be.
Prophecy and Vengeance (Itachi's Pursuit-Pain's Assault) is one of the best runs of fiction I've ever seen, at least starting from Sasuke vs Deidara.
Just more implication that he was bagging
1. Debatable, Pain Arc has become an absolutely beloved classic in the animanga comm, often in discussions of best Shonen arcs
2. This is just the Frieza part of it, not the whole arc
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MinatoSparkle
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Huh this hole on his left sleeve is suspicious since the Dragon Flame only hit his right side
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he's already above them by SR tho
MinatoSparkle
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This is stated in the 1st fanbook which was released during the Chunin Exams arc
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MinatoSparkle
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Maybe in his Partially Transformed StateJonin level Gaara is based
I think it's like 1-1.5 months
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Naruto must've been mad mental-amped.
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Apollonir.Scale
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I haven't finished the Buu saga yet.
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I mean he def was
Kishimoto literally drew Naruto recalling Haku's words to him and he proceeded to whip out more clones than he ever did
Blatantly mental amped
His mental amp against Mizuki was the highest he had done to that point ( 1,000 )
And against Garra he whipped out at least 2,000 or so
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I mean, yeah
His father couldn't assasinate him and he was surely not sending genins to kill gaara
Plus, I'm pretty sure he solo'd a bunch of S-Rank missions which are well into Jonin territory
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funny enough me and slayer were talking about the very same thing and how it relates to a lot of people thinking people like Kakashi and even Asuma are like your average jonin when they clearly not
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Pain assault because its generally better structured and has a lot more varied things going on than the frieza saga specifically, i also think the pain arc despite not being as iconic as Goku vs Frieza has a better resolution to most of its plot points.
now if we took the namek saga as a whole then id say its definitely better than the pain assault arc, as the pain assault arc is very much a pay off for a lot of the plot points that have been marinating for a while but isnt as airtight as a standalone story.
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The Most Objective Strongest Gorls ranking
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Chocho above Hima is crazy workThe Most Objective Strongest Gorls ranking
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only one character will end up with TBV scaling and a 100x amp and it aint Loli Kurama 
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Kaguya solos everyoneThe Most Objective Strongest Gorls ranking
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Twn Tails is half Kaguya
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At the time the statement was made, we'd only ever seen them as a collective group, so yeah. I don't think it's fair to apply things we learned later on (such as Jura being >>> for instance) to what Eida had knowledge on at the time. She has no sensory capabilities and she can't see the future.
Sparkle, what does ">>" mean to you? Cause to me it's, like, a pretty sizeable stat advantage given that a single ">" arrow already implies outright superiority and ">~" implies partial superiority or low-end relativity. This is what I'm disagreeing with. If you think there's a gap between Code and the Shinju/Boruto, that's fine.
I just don't think it's anything massive given that he has literal feats putting him on that level and that the only statement implying otherwise is IMO not as conclusive as you think. And this is only base Code, with WK I believe whatever gap there may be would be bridged.
I'm not really sure how Boruto knowing that he was going to beat Code using Uzuhiko discredits Code's feats.
And there's still the Hidari feat as well. Add Karma to that, and I don't see Code being significantly inferior, if at all.
I think it is a weak assumption when Code has feats on that level and when the statement putting them above him have another valid interpretation, but maybe that's just me.
Perhaps.Just more implication that he was bagging
I still think he's weaker than CS2 Sasuke in terms of raw stats, but it's not a massive difference. I do think he's likely above base Sasuke, though. At least with the MS.
(Only talking stats here, obviously holistically Itachi slaps given his abilities)
Yeah, the Chidori feat is something that I'm starting to find more and more interesting.Huh this hole on his left sleeve is suspicious since the Dragon Flame only hit his right side
It seems to me he likely blocked it with his arm/arms.
Thing is, Jonin and Chunin vary in quality from village to village. Like, these guys were Chunin lol.
This could just mean that Suna Jonin are mostly fodder, given that Rase definitely sent Jonin to assassinate Gaara.
Although, it's also fair to attribute the statement to his higher forms if you believe it's speaking on Jonin in a general sense, rather than just the ones from Suna.
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Hima sticking out like a sore thumb in her tier lol she gaps everyone there so badlyThe Most Objective Strongest Gorls ranking
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is that topless sakura as your pfp?
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Chino should comfortably be in b tierThe Most Objective Strongest Gorls ranking
Is that Ougi is big 5?
Filler kara inner in case I got the name wrong
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A fello Chino enjoyer, massive W
That's Nanashi from Storm Connections.
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Iirc it’s Sakura x Deftones album cover. Fivehead Sakura moment
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Sorry, forgot to reply to this. Actually, I fully agree. And to me, it's actually the best stretch of Naruto overall (starting from Sasuke vs Deidara all the way to the FKS). Just so, so good.
