Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

[Damage3245]

You know what's super weird tho? Bro POSSIBLY tanks a Chidori, but gets damaged by a Shuriken lmao. That's wild.

Yeah.... Since we don't actually see the direct hit of Chidori on-screen, I'm a bit wary of it.

 

[SlendVeny]

That's just not how the Chidori works.

Would the Chidori being disrupted not make it kinda just blow up? I guess that might be more of a Rasengan thing, since Chidori isn't really compressed.

 

[Godernet]

Would the Chidori being disrupted not make it kinda just blow up? I guess that might be more of a Rasengan thing, since Chidori isn't really compressed.

Chidori’s really just a fast thrust covered in lightning chakra so yeah it doesn’t explode.

Rasengan being a ball of spinning energy could tho yeah.

 

[SlendVeny]

Chidori’s really just a fast thrust covered in lightning chakra so yeah it doesn’t explode.

Well, Rasengan and Chidori explode on collision, so it has to do with the mix-up I think?

 

[LordTracer]

Wanna run something by ya'll.

Do we think Itachi tanked a Chidori here? Mainly cause bro was caught in midair and in the very next panel we see him being sent flying backwards, which wouldn't make much sense if he, like, dodged it or something. It's a weird exchange for sure, but the more I think about it, the more it seems like.....Itachi sorta tanked a Chidori, which is nuts lol.

I would say he either blocked it or got hit in the face.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Yeah.... Since we don't actually see the direct hit of Chidori on-screen, I'm a bit wary of it.

It is super whack, I'll admit. But tbf, the Shuriken sorta caught him off-guard. Whereas the Chidori he saw coming and could presumably brace for.
Not saying it's a 100% or anything, but we know how much seeing stuff coming can affect Naruto characters' ability to withstand them sometimes.

Well, Rasengan and Chidori explode on collision, so it has to do with the mix-up I think?

Chidori does explode/cause explosions on occasion, but it's pretty much always when it comes into contact with something (best examples I can think of are the Rasengan-Chidori clashes and Sasuke blowing up the meteor in The Last). As far as I recall, it never happened without the Chidori establishing contact with something.

I would say he either blocked it or got hit in the face.

That's kinda where I'm at as well.

 

[Godernet]

Well, Rasengan and Chidori explode on collision, so it has to do with the mix-up I think?

Chidori might explode when it’s in contact with other chakra ig then

Because most of the time it’s just a jab

Rin didn’t explode into a million pieces after Kakashi stabbed her. Neither did Naruto, Gaara’s Sand Shield, etc.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Chidori might explode when it’s in contact with other chakra ig then

Because most of the time it’s just a jab

Rin didn’t explode into a million pieces after Kakashi stabbed her. Neither did Naruto, Gaara’s Sand Shield, etc.

Yeah, and also it's possible that this is something that the user has some level of control over this given what Kakashi says here. So this could be used to square away why sometimes it's just a lightning-enhanced punch/thrust, and other times.....Well, it's shit like this lol.

 

[KingogKings777]

Chidori does explode/cause explosions on occasion, but it's pretty much always when it comes into contact with something (best examples I can think of are the Rasengan-Chidori clashes and Sasuke blowing up the meteor in The Last). As far as I recall, it never happened without the Chidori establishing contact with something.

Susanoo maybe? Idk

 

[AnimesFreak2]

What's better, Pain's Assault (Chapter 413-453) or Frieza Saga (Chapter 291-329)?

I love Pain arc more but Namek Saga is objectively more iconic

 

[MinatoSparkle]

you can be holistically above someone without every stat being a qualifier to be above them

I'm aware, I specifically worded it like I did because of that. It's not necessary, but it's more likely than not.

boruto reacted to him while being mostly stationary, had his attack reacted to by Konohamaru who should be below the likes of Code, given Code was considered this insane standard prior to Boruto showing up.

Boruto wasn't able to just duck Hidari's Chidori and slam the Rasengan into him though. I'm fine with Konohamaru being below Code, I even did that on my list, but I don't think reacting to someone means you're fully relative, just not a blitz tier slower.

Hidari also barely moves out of the way of a inferior Kawaki

It was a sneak attack so I wouldn't take much stock in that

not saying Hidari cant be faster but theres nothing to suggest a massive gap in speed.

Being >> isn't necessarily massive, just significant. Hidari>Code is fine too.

In my opinion, Naruto has better music, character designs, character writing, and comedy.

I agree. Naruto can be better while DB is still good

I don't really think this statement means that each individual Shinju is >>> Code in stats, given that it's talking about them as a group. Eida didn't really single Hidari out here. (Obviously Jura is an exception, but we didn't know that at the time)

Eh you could interpret it like that, but Eida's acting like he just can't deal with them at all, and it's not like they're always together or anything.

And really, when you look at the showings, I believe this notion is well supported. Boruto thought Code could be good back-up for him against them, which wouldn't make a whole lot of sense if he was significantly slower than them.

He's not complete fodder to that tier, but being able to help to some extent and being significantly weaker/slower aren't contradictory.

Add to that the fact that Code literally reacted to Hidari himself, and wasn't really shown to be all that inferior to Boruto (who's relative to Hidari) even in base without his Karma, and I just don't see how someone like Hidari is significantly above Code in speed.

As you know, reaction speed isn't the same as combat speed, and I wouldn't particularly take the Boruto feat too seriously anyways given Boruto's demeanor and the fact that he acted like his attack went according to plan anyways (he also didn't even try to push his arm toward Code after having it caught, his reaction was pretty much just "ok"). I'm fine with Base Code in the same blitz tier as Boruto though.

It's an arbitrary assumption as you don't even need to be faster than someone to be superior to them, let alone be much faster. You could argue he's like >~ Code, but I don't see >> being a thing. At worst, he should be up there with his Karma.

It's really not arbitrary. Out of someone's league = faster is a completely normal interpretation. Certainly no less an assumption than applying it to AP. Maybe WK Code could be slightly comparable, but a pretty loose relativity that'd be.

No, I agree. I prefer the manga version of that fight too. The anime adaptation was just really well-executed for Itachi vs Sasuke, which isn't always the case.

Kinda crazy that we got Jiraiya vs Pain and Itachi vs Sasuke back to back. We were so spoiled back then lol.

Prophecy and Vengeance (Itachi's Pursuit-Pain's Assault) is one of the best runs of fiction I've ever seen, at least starting from Sasuke vs Deidara.

You know what's super weird tho? Bro POSSIBLY tanks a Chidori, but gets damaged by a Shuriken lmao. That's wild.

Just more implication that he was bagging

I love Pain arc more but Namek Saga is objectively more iconic

1. Debatable, Pain Arc has become an absolutely beloved classic in the animanga comm, often in discussions of best Shonen arcs
2. This is just the Frieza part of it, not the whole arc

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Huh this hole on his left sleeve is suspicious since the Dragon Flame only hit his right side

 

[MinatoSparkle]

This is a WILD statement I'm ngl. Maybe if it was talking about PT or BM Gaara it'd be understandable, but still damn.

 

[Nierre]

This is a WILD statement I'm ngl. Maybe if it was talking about PT or BM Gaara it'd be understandable, but still damn.

he's already above them by SR tho

 

[MinatoSparkle]

he's already above them by SR tho

This is stated in the 1st fanbook which was released during the Chunin Exams arc

 

[Nierre]

This is stated in the 1st fanbook which was released during the Chunin Exams arc

Jonin level Gaara is based

 

[Nierre]

how much time is between Sasuke Retrieval and the exams?

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Jonin level Gaara is based

Maybe in his Partially Transformed State

how much time is between Sasuke Retrieval and the exams?

I think it's like 1-1.5 months

 

[Nierre]

damn i didnt think it was that long

 

[SlendVeny]

Maybe in his Partially Transformed State

Naruto must've been mad mental-amped.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

damn i didnt think it was that long

The Search for Tsunade arc was like a week or two and the moon in SRA went from full to crescent

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

Not liking the Buu Saga is an early sign of a nearly incurable condition.

I haven't finished the Buu saga yet.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Naruto must've been mad mental-amped.

I mean he def was

Kishimoto literally drew Naruto recalling Haku's words to him and he proceeded to whip out more clones than he ever did

Blatantly mental amped

His mental amp against Mizuki was the highest he had done to that point ( 1,000 )

And against Garra he whipped out at least 2,000 or so

 

[Testarossa002]

This is a WILD statement I'm ngl. Maybe if it was talking about PT or BM Gaara it'd be understandable, but still damn.

I mean, yeah
His father couldn't assasinate him and he was surely not sending genins to kill gaara
Plus, I'm pretty sure he solo'd a bunch of S-Rank missions which are well into Jonin territory

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

funny enough me and slayer were talking about the very same thing and how it relates to a lot of people thinking people like Kakashi and even Asuma are like your average jonin when they clearly not

This is stated in the 1st fanbook which was released during the Chunin Exams arc