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but like....we scale Super Shenron to 2-C for creating 7 universes...
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
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1. I'm not in charge of Dragon Ball. I'm in charge of Naruto. So....
2. Pretty sure Ki is accepted as a UES. But again, I dunno how they handle it over there.
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yeah i just realized he's 2-C with wishes. physically he's 3-B for dwarfing galaxies1. I'm not in charge of Dragon Ball. I'm in charge of Naruto. So....
2. Pretty sure Ki is accepted as a UES. But again, I dunno how they handle it over there.
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Immeasurable chakra from tt > any miniscule chakra gotten from the tailed beast. Obito is same person using it in both cases with more or less superior chakra control so sword of nonuboku> LIT. How's the fraud agenda looking?
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someone made a thread specifically not long ago
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As fraudulent as ever!
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Idk much about the anime scaling anymore, but in the movies:
1. Naruto beats an opponent stronger than Kakashi. However, this is only because Sasuke hit the guy with a Chidori and he did the same with a Rasengan, damaging his power armor. Sakura's downscaling off SFT Naruto by taking hits from a guy who can damage him.
2. Despite using magic stones on his body, this villain might be weaker than the last one. His underlings did hold their own against Gaara and Kankuro through hax/mobility, but they were WAAAAAY weaker. When Gaara and Kankuro landed full-power hits, it was a oneshot. Shikamaru and Sakura absolutely murdered the other one with explosive tags. He was piecing up Naruto, though, me and the lads call him Sage of Cyst Paths for a reason. A rasengan ***** him up, sends him flying into the roof, and has rubble fall on top of him, but he gets back up. Naruto beats him using a Rasengan empowered by the stones' energy in one hand, and a Kurama Chakra one in the other, sending him flying into a machine, which shatters, causing an interdimensional gate to open that nobody scales to. Shikamaru and Sakura are somewhat more powerful than normal, or at least faster.
3. Base Lee > Post-SRA Base Naruto by a LOT via holding his own against an opponent who could physically annihilate him. Like, Lee fights this guy, does very little, takes off his weights, starts holding his own, starts making headway with nunchaku, and gets up from a beatdown. This same guy previously took on KN0 Naruto and survived a few hits, albeit he was knocked unconscious. Lee then uses the 5th Gate to basically onetap him. And when I say onetap, I mean the guy literally died. Sakura is way stronger than in canon at this point, enhancing her strength with Chakra to take out an opponent that scales to her non-enhanced self. Naruto kills a Kakashi-level guy with a Rasengan.
4. Drunken Fist > a guy who is > 5th Gate. Everyone else is about as strong as normal. Naruto teams up with a priestess who's kind of the MC of the movie, and the two of them hit a giant demon stronger than guys stronger than Kakashi, and he explodes and dies.
5. Orochimaru is weaker, because his body is failing, but Sasuke fixes it, making him stronger for a bit. Everyone else is pretty similar. Naruto can control enough Kurama Chakra to be comparable to CS2 Sasuke iirc, and he destroys a big-ass fortress
6. Naruto punches through Gaara's Shield of Sand. Base Kiba is 7-B at minimum. Naruto kills Hiruko with Rasenshuriken and takes no damage to his arm using it.
7. Naruto and Jonin Minato(At a point in time where Kakashi was like 10) are shown as comparable. Both are superior to a young Shibi and Choza.
8. SM Naruto is stronger than A4 iirc.
9. The Konoha 11 battle Zetsu clones disguised as the Akatsuki. Menma is PSYCHOTIC. This guy is one of the strongest Shippuden antagonists of all time.
10. Canon
11. Similar to canon.
Ghostimuscrime
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brother does not know what reasoning means
hence why I told you, nothing past 5B is getting accepted so im not gonna use those here
not hard to understand
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im good man, if I do make any CRT in the near future it'll be about multipliers
lmao
I was there, the thread was abandoned due to continuity issues, while I think the 2B stuff is probably debunkable, it's bare minnimum Low 2C based on the movies actual events and as Karo said, that 7 bijuu feat is
infinitesimal compared to the juubi let alone juubito
wait does that mean it can be included in the (hypothetical) pierrot canon profiles?
for a fluff rating, similar to etso
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Possibly, yeah.
Tbh, RtN is canon in every single aspect EXCEPT the fact that it just does not fit into the timeline at all.
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And I haven't watched it but ik it has Itachi~/>Obito fuel
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Fuel? More like Hell fire lmao. AND it was 100% written by Kishimoto lmao, soooooooooAnd I haven't watched it but ik it has Itachi~/>Obito fuel
Great movie though, highly recommend. Prolly my fave Nard movie.
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Equal Stats, which Naruto Movie Villain is the most Dangerous?
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Is Jigen vs Code a good matchup? (Both FP) Mainly because of Jigen's abilities and Code's IQ (lack of).
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Probably Toneri. His bag is insane.
Although, Menma is also up there. His abilities are quite nutty as well.
I personally think so, but I scale Jigen quite differently than most people, so the popular answer is prolly that Code stomps.
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I think Lee and Guy fight equally at one point in the anime.
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that is an issue, but rereading the anime scenes of hags moving the moon got me thinking, if that one was a contradiction to the canon timeline as well but its still a part of the anime regardless im starting to think it was more of a writing flaw than actually it being non canon necessarily
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The anime isn't canon to the manga tho. And even if it were, in cases where there are contradictions, we would defer to the source material, which is the manga (and its canonical supplementary material) in this case. So nothing really changes in that regard.
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the anime does follow the canon lore of the manga (not saying i wanna use anime feats for the manga) and that contradiction still exists in the anime only episodes so im saying based on that we shouldnt say rtn cant be used anime only profiles when its more of a writing error instead of it being non canon
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Oh, you meant purely within the anime continuity? I guess, yeah. Haven't watched the anime in ages, so I can't say for sure, but it's prolly fine if you're doing a "composite Pierrot" type deal.
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Ghostimuscrime
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Dang, didnt know that was allowed
anyways I had a question about the Hags L5B downgrade,
you found out a timeline inconsistency, separated creation and transportation of the moon and placed the feat into his near death state done solo
it was initially used to index the timeframe for how fast the moon would be sent
what would be the issue of just using the initial one to get an idea of how fast he would send it in his deathbed? since the telekinesis speed wasn't contradicted, the timing of when its sent was, would it not still serve as the closest to canon depiction suited for using on their profiles? (i did reread it once before commenting this but if I missed sth lmk)
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Well, the villains, chronologically, are:
-Doto: His armor amps him to a very high degree, he has artillery devices that can rip through entire squads of warriors by blasting them with kunai(if you've run Hwacha in TABS, you know what I mean) and can use Ice Style to make these badass black dragons. He's also pretty smart. On the 1-10 scale, his Threat Level is gonna be about a 2.
-Haido: He can amp himself with the Gelel energy, using it to shoot Gelel Blasts, powerful bursts of energy, and by going into Gelel Beast Mode, which makes him way stronger, and allows him to use Gelel Laser, a giant beam of energy, and gives him 4 Red Orbs, which are like TSOs if they only had the shape manipulation aspect. He's pretty smart, too. Threat level: 4
-Ishidate: Unlike the last two, he has legitimate Taijutsu prowess and Shinobi training. Everyone in his group can use a toxic mist with no odor that dulls the 5 senses of the target. His gauntlet can petrify people, and telekinetically manipulate stone. Threat level: 3
-Moryo: He possesses and enhances the body of the weaker Yomi, a medical shinobi who can inject chakra into people to either amp them or **** them up, but who will eventually die due to Moryo's power. He himself can control an army of giant stone soldiers, and when released, in combat, can engulf people in darkness and manipulate his body against them. He's massive, and has at least 5 heads. Threat Level: 7
-Shinno: He's a skilled medical shinobi, able to repair and empower his body. He can use the Dark Chakra of the Zero-Tails to enhance his strength, chakra reserves, and techniques, healing himself so much that he claims the use of all 8 Gates couldn't kill him, or even merge with the Zero-Tails. He doesn't use the Gates though. In this state, just waving his hand can shoot out waves of chakra. He can hit someone with both hands to hit their internal organs with his Dark Chakra(Rokugan from One Piece). He can make a ******-up evil Rasengan. He can even use some slimy-ass chakra arms. He also has a big old flying fortress, hang glider things, handheld kunai launchers, and a scary laser that can blow up shit, but he needs help to use most of those. Threat level: 5
-Hiruko: He has the most experience out of anyone so far, being as old as the Sannin. His Chimera Technique can absorb up to 4 bodies, including their Kekkei Genkai, then requires a specific ritual to gain a 5th, at which point he will gain immortality and full mastery of the 5 elements. It also lets him control a strange liquid of some kind. He can place a seal on a target that lets him control them. If he sets up some barrier tags, he can set up a trap that will create a barrier that contracts in on itself until the target is crushed. He can control stone to form enormous jaws and consume the foe. He can make holograms like Toneri as well. He also has 4 Kekkei Genkai. Dark Style is basically the Preta Path, but only works on simple Ninjutsu that don't use both types of Chakra control. However, it has decent absorption range, lets him detect nature affinities, and lets him use their chakra to use jutsu of that type. It can also enhance the chakra and turn it into blue flames. Steel Style can turn his skin into metal, allowing him to shatter blades that are swung at him. Storm Style lets him create an endlessly expanding red pillar, absorbing chakra to grow, while also channeling some energy into himelf, or create a dark cloud charged with electricity, which he can fire lightning bolts out of. Swift Style is basically Body Flicker, but he can do stuff while flickering. Threat Level: 5
-Mukade: 6 years before, when he's human, he's not especially good physically. However, he can, through a complex method, go back in time. He can use the puppet technique for all kinds of things, including controlling Kunai and people. He can access an ancient source of chakra called the Ryumaku, enhancing himself to control a literal army of puppets who can fly around and use a bunch of weapons, as well as infinitely replenishing his chakra and expanding his threads across an entire city. He uses a puppet body he can regenerate, which, iirc, is full of weapons and explodes when destroyed. He can turn into a giant spider form and ******* eradicate people with scythe limbs and a penetrating drill spear. I'm pretty sure he also can just blow shit up and shoot his fingers at people, as well as fire and electricity, or maybe even eat chakra? Idk much about this guy rn. Anyway, he can combine with his puppet army to turn into a big-ass centipede. They needed Team 7, Choza, Kid Kakashi, Shibi, and Jonin Minato to beat him, and it wasn't because of his Base form's power. Threat Level: 7
-Satori: So, its host, Muku, is pretty strong, to a point where he doesn't get, like, orders of magnitude stronger when he turns into the entity posessing him. He's an expert at Fire Style, allowing him to do that ghost technique Gotenks uses, but on fire. Due to Satori's power, he can spit feathers at people, or turn into the entity itself. In this form, Satori will attempt to suck people into its box, and shoot Bijuu-Bomb-esque big balls at them. It is also the size of a Bijuu. It maneuvers by flying around and using pure instinct to dodge any attack with negative emotion behind it. Threat Level: 5
-Menma: This man is one of the few contenders for #1 on the list, even though I'm using his no-possession variant. He's fully synced with his version of Kurama, meaning he gets all the cool Kurama powers. He can also split it into 9 entities of power similar to him, or directly summon it, and seems to be able to use its chakra to amp himself even with it outside of his body. He can basically do a slighly weaker Shinra Tensei. He can do a far stronger Rasengan variant with one hand. One of them is a Wind Rasenshuriken level amp, and the other has the AoE of like half of Konoha. He pieced up Naruto's clones, too, it was crazy. I swear, I need to do a "Canon Menma" fanfic, or one where everyone has their movie personalities, that'd be cool as hell. Anyway, Threat Level: 8
-Toneri: Come on, we know Toneri. He has Tenseigan, puppets(although they're autonomous so they might not count as him), TSBs, Chakra absorption I think, and he can use the moon to fight. Threat Level: 8-9
-Momoshiki: I don't need to explain Momoshiki. 10 if he can eat Kinshiki, 9 if he can't.
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Wait, how bad does this nerf Shino?
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I'm just gonna plug this cause why not https://yonathanandfriends.quora.com/What-are-your-top-five-best-answers-10
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The Hypest Fight In The Nursing Home
Naruto and Sasuke are down, Madara is still standing despite their valiant attempts to halt his progress on the Infinite Tsukuyomi. However, Zoro, for some reason, walks into the fight with an old man by his side, none other than Shigekuni Yamamoto, the captain commander of the Gotei 13. Tasked...
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Soul Crush GG
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tbh i still don't understand how RTN feat wouldn't scale to the bijuu's AP. i don't buy it being low 2-C but whatever rating it has, should scale to the 7 bijuu at least which should upscale the rest of the anime from that point onwards
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Minor Ada ability addition
Social Influencing (Amado's fear has risen to an abnormal level because of Ada's power.) Cosmic Awareness (She knew about the death of Isshiki in the other dimension, and with the Senrigan she can see any event anywhere in the universe. ) Agree:Testarossa002,KaydeeX Disagree:
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The anime version is so wildly different from the canon version that there really is no reason to use it. (Other than to inflate the results, of course)
Like, when we use the anime version even though it's not canon, it's usually to clear up a super vague feat in the manga. But the catch is that the anime depiction still needs to be somewhat consistent with the manga, or at least not heavily contradict it. As you know, this is just not the case here. So we can't ignore every aspect it contradicts and cherry-pick the one thing that may or may not be contradictory just cause it'll give higher results.
Additionally, the CGMs will never pick this hypothetical version over Arc's calc for one simple reason. Arc's version is inherently superior due to not needing to assume any timeframes. Meaning the margin for error is simply much lower.
Hope that answers the question.
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Best Hax in Naruto/Boruto
The question is I guess threefold. 1. What is the best Hax in context of the Naruto/Boruto world and storyline? 2. Which Hax would you choose in real life? 3. The above two questions but excluding OP abilities like COAT, Omnipotence, Izanagi/Izanami. You can also state your personal favorite...
I'm curious
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It's a good fight. Jigen would win a fair amount with his bag of tricks, though Code is stronger. Though poor stamina on Jigen's side is the major reason he doesn't win majority.
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So Shinki's sealing tech can nullify biological processes like bleeding out and dying.
That's biological or molecular immobilisation, right?
Other sealing techs mostly bind chakra and movement, but it seems this one is more capable since Gaara's life that was on the verge of death is preserved in the cocoon.
That's biological or molecular immobilisation, right?
Other sealing techs mostly bind chakra and movement, but it seems this one is more capable since Gaara's life that was on the verge of death is preserved in the cocoon.
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gotcha thanks
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ig you can make arguments for why it should scale , I thought itd grant L2C normally but it seems the standards for creation feats are rather higher than I expected since super shenron is only 3B,
After all i can make a house sized dimension using an unknown period of time, its not really proving the energy i release per second is that high
if you dont think its low 2c then drop the meta lol
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It's a little odd how the tiering system page says create/destroy for all the tiers but ig since there are creation specific ratings given that makes sense
