this is in relation to two rinnegan, like its trying to say the full set is massively stronger while one isnt
Pure gooning here but since Jura assigns Code with a kill order on boruto, shouldn't that imply that WK Code (who jura just sniped btw) should be able to at least handle Boruto's capabilities. The ones Jura saw anyways. Not necessarily putting him above Uzuhiko, but at least, on par, if not superior to say Hidari (who Jura saw get atomized by boruto)
I mean, I have Code ~ Boruto (no Uzuhiko) ~ Hidari and Bug (probably Matsuri and Ryu as well, realistically), so Code being in that ballpark is fine to me personally.
Even with this one eye's chakra and ocular powers are so strong I started losing myself. Yet I, who am not its original owner, was able to accomplish this much with just one."
Rinnegan Obito is above KF EMS Sasuke too
He got squashed so maybe not?
Yeah
Naa. But if you perception blitz the person with mftl perception or if you get a statement from that character stating he could barely see you move then yeah
Just logically thinking about it, why would it?
oh well at least its not quantifiably higher than itachi, sth could be worked outEven with this one eye's chakra and ocular powers are so strong I started losing myself. Yet I, who am not its original owner, was able to accomplish this much with just one."
Rinnegan Obito is above KF EMS Sasuke too
gotchu
Rinnegan Obito~KCM2 Naruto>>MKCM1 Naruto~EMS Sasuke~Edo Itachi, regardless of if Itachi's superior to Sasuke, it's certainly not as big as the difference between KCM1 and KCM2 and they were pretty much relative against Kabuto
the difference between kcm1 and kcm2 is like 1.5x (in-verse wise)
Shinju Awakening Arcwhat would you guys call the current arc
I know the wiki calls it the "boruto returns arc"
Do you think KCM2 Naruto is relative to Edo Madara in speed and do you think WA Kakashi is faster than Hiden (1 year after the war) Kakashi?
Isn't this wrong?
It's not saying IT is FTL+ but Kaguya with IT chakra absorbed
Cause you don't get chakra from IT. You get chakra from God: Nativity of a World of Trees, which is what absorbs the chakra and turns them into white zetsu.
hard to tell, there was a bit of power fluctuation in the war arc mid way
Dude rlly dropped Kawaki's power and increased his durability and regeneration all so his ass doesn't get himself killed
I ask because Edo Madara matched EMS Sasuke's Susanoo Arrow casually, which is much faster than the user
Madara's just playing. Mei also keeps up with him, and Karin can react to her
KCM2 isn't simply Kurama's power. Naruto and Kurama's chakras are kneaded together. There's a reason KCM Minato is relative to BSM Naruto.
But you get chakra from IT victims and that's simpler to say ig. Iirc it's also what the chakra was referred to as.
First Arc: Chapters 1-4: Boruto's Return Arcwhat would you guys call the current arc
I know the wiki calls it the "boruto returns arc"
No one said you do. The key is just called IT on the wiki.
I didn’t say Impact.
1) aint this post Juubi obito that i already excluded (pretty sure zetsu only comes to him after he got stripped of his power)I ask because Edo Madara matched EMS Sasuke's Susanoo Arrow casually, which is much faster than the user
Madara's just playing. Mei also keeps up with him, and Karin can react to her
KCM2 isn't simply Kurama's power. Naruto and Kurama's chakras are kneaded together. There's a reason KCM Minato is relative to BSM Naruto.
It's Madara shooting out rods that he planted in Obito.
I mean she quite literally intercepted his Fire Style and tagged him (if you say he was midair, he could've propelled himself away in a myriad of ways such as sprouting Susanoo arms to grab somewhere), and she reacted to his clone later too (along with the fact that she spent hours fighting his Susanoo clones, meaning she'd have to have been keeping up somewhat)
I didn't mean on the wiki; this is what I'm referring to https://vsbattles.com/threads/the-kcm-minato-upgrade-yall-knew-was-coming.164921/
Between KCM1 and KCM2 or KCM2 and BSM? Cause I heavily disagree either way. KCM Naruto is like BM Bee level, whereas KCM2 Naruto physically knocked away 5 Bijuudama and mollywhopped the Bijuu. There are also a plethora of ways to argue him around 7th Gate Guy level, while Base Guy was performing comparably to KCM Naruto against Obito. And the difference between KCM2 and BSM is just the same as that between Base Naruto and SM Naruto.
1) jutsu speed ggs lol
Susanoo Arrow is literally jutsu speed gg on mega steroids and Madara matched that with a smile on his face
If anything she had a disadvantage since the fire was already close to Tsunade before Mei intercepted it
I'm saying that despite Minato just using KCM2, he's comparable to KCM2 Naruto with Sage Mode, supporting the idea that KCM2 is more than just User + Kurama, cause then he'd just be KCM2 level.
Yeah it's individual Bijuudamas, but if KCM Naruto was already struggling against Bijuu's physicals, how would he be able to slap away a Bijuudama with no effort? It's also clearly implicated that KCM2 is meant to be on a higher speed tier than KCM1 given Guy's comment.
1) brother youre gonna need a bit of mental gymnastics to prove that madaras feet can move as fast as his jutsuSusanoo Arrow is literally jutsu speed gg on mega steroids and Madara matched that with a smile on his face
If anything she had a disadvantage since the fire was already close to Tsunade before Mei intercepted it
Wdym by barely? She simply blocked it. Do you mean cause she didn't dodge or something?
I believe clones are accepted as comparable
I'm saying that despite Minato just using KCM2, he's comparable to KCM2 Naruto with Sage Mode, supporting the idea that KCM2 is more than just User + Kurama, cause then he'd just be KCM2 level.
Yeah it's individual Bijuudamas, but if KCM Naruto was already struggling against Bijuu's physicals, how would he be able to slap away a Bijuudama with no effort? It's also clearly implicated that KCM2 is meant to be on a higher speed tier than KCM1 given Guy's comment.
I mean the Guy stuff is very relevant? Can't really ignore it when it's one of the key points to KCM2>>KCM1
I'm not talking about site standards cause this isn't a CRT. It's just moving objects with chakra like he amps his own movements with chakra. Not to mention it's not even some special technique with huge chakra output, it's an application of the most basic ability Rinnegan users can spam.
Oh boy
What I mean is that I'm fairly sure they're treated as marginally inferior but still relative, so yes. Though I certainly have disagreements with that considering they have much less of the power source responsible for statsalso comparable is just a shaky way of saying yes, characters get scaled for being comparable in stats, i match your level and youre 50c, im now 50c
in which case i wont say much
He canonically can though? He's powerful support for Naruto and smacks away Juubito's chakra arms and contributes to destroying them/cracking Juubito's TSO barrier.3) woah minato cant hang with Juubito like that
at least an empowered one, the unstable ones fluctuate a bit
I have a couple problems with that. For one, Obito was mostly using the 3T Sharingan when fighting MKCM Naruto, while he was using the MS when fighting KCM2 Naruto mostly. It's also not exactly consistent that Naruto was relative to Obito, considering he easily outsped Naruto here (he had to stretch out his fan like 3x faster than Naruto charged to intercept him) and dodged his chakra arm at close range which is much faster than Naruto himself.
Jura > Code ~ Boruto ~ Jigen > The other Shinjus
It should be fixed. I guess it was overlooked coz it's minor
MS YM Obito>3 Tomei YM Obito~3 Tomei Madara~Base Hashirama>Tobirama>After Kabuto fight Rage amp EMS Sasuke>Kabuto fight EMS Sasuke<~Edo Itachi
