What do you think they are? Assuming Sasuke's 3TS awakening isn't the standard multiplier, since he'd just gotten it, and his body had acclimated to the Curse Mark, and assuming a >10x amp for Sage Mode.Just stated to be many times for the MS, no specific number
I don't have a particular number in mind but I think the 3T Sharingan amps you by a few times (like 2-4 or smthn) and the MS multiples you 4+ times since many>several = 3.
We should.
He should be. Sage Mode not being at least double or more than that of a user's base is the dumbest shit ever considering how it's treated as being an entirely different tier of power back in the Pain Arc.
If we were Dragon Ball, it'd have a 75x statement by now.
I'm where?
I wanna ask you, how confident you would be on Kaguya soloing DBS characters? Especially Zeno via her mind manip
Uhhh I'm not really knowledgeable on DB characters
Kaguya's mind manip are thought based right?
Kaguya shoots light out of her 3rd eyeball and whoever sees the light gets trapped. Normally she reflects it off the moon giving it planetary range.
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Well here, Zeno lost to Lady Bone Demon because LBD has her thought based mind manip ability https://vsbattles.com/threads/lady-bone-demon-vs-zeno-7-0-0-grace.173028/
Unless Zeno dodges the light, and if speed was equalized, light would be about 1/10th of either of their speed.
Zeno doesn't have any combat skills
IT is light-based iirc, and both characters are FTL.Zeno doesn't have any combat skills
Also Kaguya could use her genjutsu on him I believe. After Zeno is paralysis, Kaguya can go up to his gyat using deconstruction
Hm well Zeno would still wouldn't dodge as he has the mentality of a child
Then what's up with other Naruto knowledgable members stating she can use Genjustu without IT and as a In-charactet move?
Yeah, but his attacks would travel faster than IT.
Hm what about Kaguya's paralysis?
100% Kurama is way more than 2x 50% Kurama icl
I could see it being slightly more due to Kin + Gin, but how is it way more?
Well the bigger issue is the light being omnidirectional.
Oh yeah she can use regular eye contact based genjustu since she has the powers of the sharingan but she didn't use it on screen since her opponents hard countered genjutsu
Fear manip based is just from her presence (but that's currently missing from the profile) and her other one works on contact.
Would you say Kaguya can beat Zeno via these haxes? Because if she does win, it will be a history as able beating a low complex multi character
Do you mean Yin and Yang?
Maybe? We would have to see what DB supporters have to say about it.
Zen'ō erases her before she can do anything.
I think he's talking with speed equalization
That doesn't even make sense. He's literally at half of his power.
With speed equalized. Since Kaguya has a thought based genjutsu hax, she would paralysis Zeno and then go deconstruct him
Oh, then it's a bit more debatable, but I still feel like his EE is a lot easier to pull off and is pretty much his first go-to move.
Her genjutsu is not thought based. None of her abilities are thought based except her dimension switching.
