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When did that happen?For reference, this conversation is about Naruto having his limiters removed in the novel?
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When did that happen?For reference, this conversation is about Naruto having his limiters removed in the novel?
When he lost his hair.When did that happen?
X doubtfym “lowkey”
He is
Uh, however, Orochimaru never contradicts that Hiruzen's finest hour was the strongest Hokague, knowing how strong Madara and even Hashirama were and that Kishimoto openly said that he was the strongest Hokague in Datobok and the manga and we have no anti -feats for what was prime hiruzenWut
He didn't yes cause he researched Madara and had an idea of how strong he was
I can't believe Kakashi never used it.You know I was just thinking how absurdly broken Naruto's clone spam training regime is when he came up with the Rasenshuriken, and how it's just never used again. 20+ years worth of training in just a week at most is ludicrous.
Naruto could get a college degree in just a few days with that. How hasn't he mastered FTG yet, a month of training is more time than Minato's entire lifespan
He can't use it.I can't believe Kakashi never used it.
What about Tobirama? Is it possible he could have used a more limited version of the clone training, in comparison to Naruto, since he did have to find out the limits of the jutsu?He can't use it.
He literally invented it. Even if it's only 2x speed, it really shouldn't be that hard for him. Imagine, for instance, he did something with low chakra consumption, like Taijutsu training.He can't use it.
Well, he thought two clones was a pathetic amount, and given his Senju chakra reserves, he could theoretically get decent results with it.What about Tobirama? Is it possible he could have used a more limited version of the clone training, in comparison to Naruto, since he did have to find out the limits of the jutsu?
I guess I should've said "he can't use it to the same degree as Naruto", but yes he can use a much limited form of the clone training. And for all we know, that may be how he made so much progress in the last 15 years.He literally invented it. Even if it's only 2x speed, it really shouldn't be that hard for him. Imagine, for instance, he did something with low chakra consumption, like Taijutsu training.
Might actually be viable for him only after the War Arc because there's no Sharingan constantly sucking his chakra anymore.Well, he thought two clones was a pathetic amount, and given his Senju chakra reserves, he could theoretically get decent results with it.
I guess I should've said "he can't use it to the same degree as Naruto", but yes he can use a much limited form of the clone training. And for all we know, that may be how he made so much progress in the last 15 years.
Naruto and Obito exist so I’m not gonna give him a concrete.fym “lowkey”
He is
Nah, definitely not. Some may come close, but none will ever reach the GOAT's level.Sasuke lowkey might be the best written character in Naruto
Who is this person?Nah, definitely not. Some may come close, but none will ever reach the GOAT's level.
Who is this person?
Valid take
Not contradicting =/= agreeing, especially when the subject never got brought up in the warUh, however, Orochimaru never contradicts that Hiruzen's finest hour was the strongest Hokague, knowing how strong Madara and even Hashirama were and that Kishimoto openly said that he was the strongest Hokague in Datobok and the manga and we have no anti -feats for what was prime hiruzen
Something interesting to keep note of is the fact that Hiruzen was the most popular Hokage by a long margin, the people adored him apparently (at least for most of his incredibly lengthy reign), so it's possible his reputation has a bit of bias/glaze/propaganda thrown into it as is often the case with super popular people who get placed on pedestals.Not contradicting =/= agreeing, especially when the subject never got brought up in the war
Again, Kishimoto did not openly call Hiruzen the strongest Hokage. It can be interpreted as such, but the statement could also just be saying Hiruzen was revered as the strongest Hokage, which we already know.
Definitely. Jiraiya isn't surviving a fight with Base Healthy Itachi, let alone Itachi with his MS. Kisame could have legitimately gotten stronger though since he does regularly spar with Itachi as shown in Storm Generations which has Canon info.So when it comes to Itachi’s Statements about him vs Jiraiya or Kakashi vs Kisame in Part 1, it’s taken as he is an unreliable narrator because of wanting to protect the Leaf?
Naruto and Obito exist so I’m not gonna give him a concrete.
Naruto
Based.Naruto and Obito exist so I’m not gonna give him a concrete.
she shouldWhat if War Arc Sakura gets "up to Low 5-B with Empowerment" because she managed to punch Kaguya
45c god tiers?!Eh, I'll settle for >45, I guess
Lol, Jiraya put that femboy of Itachi under Genjutsu, and i am not even using Boruto scalingJiraiya isn't surviving a fight with Base Healthy Itachi
that 'femboy' pulls more girls than jiraiya can repel with his nasty perversionLol, Jiraya put that femboy of Itachi under Genjutsu, and i am not even using Boruto scaling
Sick Itachi still mogs Jiraiya lmaoAccording to the scales in Minato man article titled How Strong is Sick Itachi, Itachi is defeated without difficulty.
more like rizz vs anti rizzAre we about to witness a Jiraiya vs Itachi rizz debate???
However, the thing about the strongest Hokague, both something Kishimoto mentions and something within the universe by villagers, yes, not just a rumor, Orochimaru also believes it, someone who seems to have regard for the first two Hokagues.Something interesting to keep note of is the fact that Hiruzen was the most popular Hokage by a long margin, the people adored him apparently (at least for most of his incredibly lengthy reign), so it's possible his reputation has a bit of bias/glaze/propaganda thrown into it as is often the case with super popular people who get placed on pedestals.
Instead of writing "winner", I wrote "defeated".Sick Itachi still mogs Jiraiya lmao
Orochimaru never says that Hiruzen is the strongest Hokage.However, the thing about the strongest Hokague, both something Kishimoto mentions and something within the universe by villagers, yes, not just a rumor, Orochimaru also believes it, someone who seems to have regard for the first two Hokagues.
He did when Hiriuzen was Moon LevelOrochimaru never says that Hiruzen is the strongest Hokage.