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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
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There's definitely arguments for it(that i think are valid)
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For reference, this conversation is about Naruto having his limiters removed in the novel?
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HelloThere1089
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Kakashi looks good
HelloThere1089
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The development is crazy ngl
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Sasuke really is one of my favorite characters in manga/anime
And I hate how misunderstood he is even to this day
And I hate how misunderstood he is even to this day
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WOWZA ARF ARF THIS ART IS VERY COOL
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In fictionSasuke lowkey might be the best written character in Naruto
MinatoSparkle
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If you can prove Naruto>1st Gate Kakashi
It's about Naruto>1st Gate Kakashi>5x>Kakashi = 9.12c
The statement refers to talent which you can interpret as talent to be an overall better ninja including stats, but it's not definitive enough to get a full rating
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However, we also have another statement as the strongest Hokague, the only one that could be Retcon would be Hashirama, but even that could be old Hiruzen or that they did not have data on Hashirama.
MinatoSparkle
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I'm fine with using that to put him above Tobirama and maybe Base Minato, but it's only reputation so probably doesn't include Hashirama who died so long ago or SM Minato who no one saw fight (I also have my doubts about Base Hokage Minato but that's a different story)
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The strongest of all the hokage and
Revered as the "professor
However, both Kishimoto specifically refers to Hiruzen as the strongest Hokague.
And the villagers consider him the strongest, so not only are they villagers, but Kishimoto apart, Hiruzen lived together, myth Hashirama's wife, Tsunade's advisors, people possibly knew about the power, Hashirama and Uchihas knew Madara, even if they believed Prime Hiruzen was stronger and even
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We see during the Nine Tails attack Hiruzen can't do much against Kurama while Hashirama instantly folded him after he activates Sage Mode, there's no way Hiruzen is stronger than Hashirama's mokuton
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MinatoSparkle
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That statement can also be translated as revered as the Professor, the strongest Hokage, which can simply mean revered as the strongest which is his consistent lore.
Knowing about Hashirama and Madara =/= knowing exactly how strong they are
Why? There aren't many people that scale to Prime Hiruzen
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a 50-something year old Hiruzen with a young Hashirama, I don't think this comparison is fair.
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There's no joke, I was talking about base forms. Unless you mean frotting, which is funny.
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I mean the first part doesn't come from some villager. X if not Kishimoto the one who mentions revered and strongest hokague
I don't think Orochimaru considered Hiruzen to be the strongest Hokague, even knowing that he recognized how tough Hashi and Tobirama were when he brought edo kagues
HelloThere1089
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I have learned a new word today. Thank you.
MinatoSparkle
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Wut
He didn't yes cause he researched Madara and had an idea of how strong he was
Godernet
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If someone learned something, my work is done for today.
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Akamaru:Sasuke lowkey might be the best written character in Naruto
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When did that happen?
HelloThere1089
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When he lost his hair.
MinatoSparkle
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X doubt
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Uh, however, Orochimaru never contradicts that Hiruzen's finest hour was the strongest Hokague, knowing how strong Madara and even Hashirama were and that Kishimoto openly said that he was the strongest Hokague in Datobok and the manga and we have no anti -feats for what was prime hiruzen
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You know I was just thinking how absurdly broken Naruto's clone spam training regime is when he came up with the Rasenshuriken, and how it's just never used again. 20+ years worth of training in just a week at most is ludicrous.
Naruto could get a college degree in just a few days with that. How hasn't he mastered FTG yet, a month of training is more time than Minato's entire lifespan
Naruto could get a college degree in just a few days with that. How hasn't he mastered FTG yet, a month of training is more time than Minato's entire lifespan
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I can't believe Kakashi never used it.You know I was just thinking how absurdly broken Naruto's clone spam training regime is when he came up with the Rasenshuriken, and how it's just never used again. 20+ years worth of training in just a week at most is ludicrous.
Naruto could get a college degree in just a few days with that. How hasn't he mastered FTG yet, a month of training is more time than Minato's entire lifespan
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He can't use it.
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What about Tobirama? Is it possible he could have used a more limited version of the clone training, in comparison to Naruto, since he did have to find out the limits of the jutsu?
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He literally invented it. Even if it's only 2x speed, it really shouldn't be that hard for him. Imagine, for instance, he did something with low chakra consumption, like Taijutsu training.
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Well, he thought two clones was a pathetic amount, and given his Senju chakra reserves, he could theoretically get decent results with it.
I guess I should've said "he can't use it to the same degree as Naruto", but yes he can use a much limited form of the clone training. And for all we know, that may be how he made so much progress in the last 15 years.
