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Naruto and Obito exist so I’m not gonna give him a concrete.
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
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Nah, definitely not. Some may come close, but none will ever reach the GOAT's level.Sasuke lowkey might be the best written character in Naruto
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Who is this person?
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Valid take
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Boruto officially the third most powerful person in fiction
HelloThere1089
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Kid Boruto no less
MinatoSparkle
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Not contradicting =/= agreeing, especially when the subject never got brought up in the war
Again, Kishimoto did not openly call Hiruzen the strongest Hokage. It can be interpreted as such, but the statement could also just be saying Hiruzen was revered as the strongest Hokage, which we already know.
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Something interesting to keep note of is the fact that Hiruzen was the most popular Hokage by a long margin, the people adored him apparently (at least for most of his incredibly lengthy reign), so it's possible his reputation has a bit of bias/glaze/propaganda thrown into it as is often the case with super popular people who get placed on pedestals.
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So when it comes to Itachi’s Statements about him vs Jiraiya or Kakashi vs Kisame in Part 1, it’s taken as he is an unreliable narrator because of wanting to protect the Leaf?
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Definitely. Jiraiya isn't surviving a fight with Base Healthy Itachi, let alone Itachi with his MS. Kisame could have legitimately gotten stronger though since he does regularly spar with Itachi as shown in Storm Generations which has Canon info.
Ped2018
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XSOULOFCINDERX
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Based.
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she shouldWhat if War Arc Sakura gets "up to Low 5-B with Empowerment" because she managed to punch Kaguya
45c god tiers?!
I like this cuz it means even if the sakura novel shit gets nuked wed still get to 10c by multiplying 5 on narutos 2c calc
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Lol, Jiraya put that femboy of Itachi under Genjutsu, and i am not even using Boruto scaling
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that 'femboy' pulls more girls than jiraiya can repel with his nasty perversionLol, Jiraya put that femboy of Itachi under Genjutsu, and i am not even using Boruto scaling
HelloThere1089
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both are corpses, they aint pulling anything other than the maggots or sea lice.
Apollonir.Scale
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According to the scaling in Minato's article titled How Strong Is Sick Itachi, Itachi wins without difficulty.
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Sick Itachi still mogs Jiraiya lmao
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more like rizz vs anti rizz
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However, the thing about the strongest Hokague, both something Kishimoto mentions and something within the universe by villagers, yes, not just a rumor, Orochimaru also believes it, someone who seems to have regard for the first two Hokagues.
Apollonir.Scale
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Instead of writing "winner", I wrote "defeated".
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Orochimaru never says that Hiruzen is the strongest Hokage.
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He did when Hiriuzen was Moon Level
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Omnipotence just changed the in universe scale
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I'm too lazy to make a Moon Level Hiruzen CRT 
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btw why did the naruto having 50% chakra against momoshiki multiplier get removed when the anime is accepted as canon
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MinatoSparkle
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Maybe so, although there is this interesting statement which could lend credence to the idea
Could just refer to him being the strongest of the Five Kage tho
I assume you mean mine?
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Are you 13?Cause they don't play in the same category
Only hot MILF, no thot - Jiraya
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Yeah, you're too young to be on here, mate.
Apollonir.Scale
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Yes, according to your scale, Itachi was 10 times stronger. Of course, I don't know if your opinion on the MS amp has changed.
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Big difference. Magire's cloak was only a V1 cloak, while Kido's was a V2 cloak.
MinatoSparkle
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If you mean than Base Jiraiya, yes (my opinion on the MS amp has actually improved as the raws say it's a many times amp rather than several). Although I don't agree with the unconventional method I used anymore as idt AS Naruto~Base Jiraiya anymore
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Secondary canon
Boruto anime is used for anime only fights
If the scene exists in the manga however, it takes precedence
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Code probably has some levels of regeneration to produce that much blood iron.
