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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

Kayzz said:
However, it's nonsense that 20 hours of lifespan is all that Baryon Mode can destroy when Kurama's immortal lifespan is also destroyed by Baryon Mode.
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Kayzz said:
Nah, it's relative.

It depends on what has been shaved from the user.
Whatever amount of Kurama's life force has been destroyed, it is replicated on the opp after contact.
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Based on this?
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Kayzz said:
Yes.
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Kurama's Life Force, worth at least a millennia or more of life, reduced to a few minutes by being using Baryon Mode

Prime Isshiki's Life Force in a decrepit vessel, worth several hours of life, reduced to several minutes by being hit multiple times by Baryon Mode

Would the situation still be the same if Isshiki had his regular life span?
 
Kurama's loss of life force is not equivalent to Isshiki's loss of life force. Kurama died before Isshiki. Majority of Kurama's expended life force went into increasing Naruto's AP and Speed. The remaining went to decreasing Isshiki's life force.
 
HelloThere1089 said:
Kurama's loss of life force is not equivalent to Isshiki's loss of life force. Kurama died before Isshiki. Majority of Kurama's expended life force went into increasing Naruto's AP and Speed. The remaining went to decreasing Isshiki's life force.
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I don't think it works that way. However, I do agree that 'Kurama's loss of life force is not equivalent to Isshiki's loss of life force.' The energy involved isn't split into two distinct forms like you mentioned( one for draining life forces, and the other for enhancing physical attributes). The same energy that enhances physical attributes is also responsible for draining life force upon contact. The energy, generated from the chakra fusion, is what depletes life force. However, it’s the continuous maintenance of this chakra fusion that ultimately results in the user's death. In Kurama's case, his death was a consequence of exhausting all his chakra while sustaining that form.
 
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Samlex1234 said:
I don't think it works that way. However, I do agree that 'Kurama's loss of life force is not equivalent to Isshiki's loss of life force.' The energy involved isn't split into two distinct forms like you mentioned( one for draining life forces, and the other for enhancing physical attributes). The same energy that enhances physical attributes is also responsible for draining life force upon contact. This energy, generated from the chakra fusion, is what depletes life force. However, it’s the continuous maintenance of this chakra fusion that ultimately results in the user's death. In Kurama's case, his death was a consequence of exhausting all his chakra while sustaining that form.
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But the energy created can't be equal to the energy that comes in contact with Isshiki. That's just not possible at all. So like I said, the energy created will always be far more than the energy that depletes Isshiki's life.

Edit: Also it has to be split.
 
HelloThere1089 said:
But the energy created can't be equal to the energy that comes in contact with Isshiki. That's just not possible at all. So like I said, the energy created will always be far more than the energy that depletes Isshiki's life.

Edit: Also it has to be split.
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Well if that is your interpretation then no problem.
 
OneBleachHurricane said:
Kurama's Life Force, worth at least a millennia or more of life, reduced to a few minutes by being using Baryon Mode

Prime Isshiki's Life Force in a decrepit vessel, worth several hours of life, reduced to several minutes by being hit by Baryon Mode

Would the situation still be the same if Isshiki had his regular life span?
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Yes, I believe so. Life force is not measured by life span, rather life span is a result of life force.
If we go strictly by the Narutowiki, healing, stamina, stats, and vitality are also results of life force. So there's more going for Life Force than simply life span.

Isshiki life force was constant because chakra and life force go hth. There was never any time where Isshiki claimed his chakra is less potent.
At some point, Naruto referred to his soul as his life force.

Jigen's body couldn't handle that Isshiki's chakra (Life force by extension) not because it was inherently bad but because it wasn't a good host for his power. Good host is judged by destiny shenanigans.
 
Samlex1234 said:
Well if that is your interpretation then no problem.
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It's not my interpretation lmao. If you create X amount of energy and some of it used to move Naruto, then that part of the energy is already expended and isn't in Naruto's body anymore. Which means it can't come into contact with Isshiki. So if Y amount of energy comes into contact with Isshiki, the Y has to be less than X. That's the reason why Kurama told Naruto to not move around so much.
 
Madara took some of Hashirama's flesh, cultivated and implanted it onto his body. And it took him several years for his Sharingan to develop into Rinnegan.

Toneri took Hanabi's eyes, and implanted them into his eye sockets. And it took him several days for the Byakugan to settle and develop into Tenseigan

So I guess it would take a normal person, in the Naruto world, several years in order to manifest the Tenseigan if they were to go and do the Madara route

Days if their body was already part Otsutsuki
 
Well all those guys have Otsutsuki genes even if watered down, a normal human likely couldnt even do it at all.
 
Again, wouldn't it make sense for Baryon Mode was percentage based? We can’t say it's relative between the two because Kurama’s lifespan is “infinite”. Biju don’t die unless killed.

Sonit’d make more sense to determine the percentage of Isshiki’s life that was shaved off and divide that figure by how many strikes Naruto landed.
 
OneBleachHurricane said:
Madara took some of Hashirama's flesh, cultivated and implanted it onto his body. And it took him several years for his Sharingan to develop into Rinnegan.

Toneri took Hanabi's eyes, and implanted them into his eye sockets. And it took him several days for the Byakugan to settle and develop into Tenseigan

So I guess it would take a normal person, in the Naruto world, several years in order to manifest the Tenseigan if they were to go and do the Madara route

Days if their body was already part Otsutsuki
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What if they had Hyuga lineage, another Hyuga's eyes, and Otsutsuki Chakra, but no Otsutsuki DNA?
 
Testarossa002 said:
Anime is only canon here until BM vs Isshiki arc
So you have to start from there before making any big moves
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I think that the post-Baryon mode chapters should be canon. In the 2nd Chunin Exams, which is a filler arc, Konohamaru leaves the leadership of Team 7 and Sarada becomes the new captain of Team 7 since she is promoted to chunin in the chunin exams. In the manga, when Kawaki and Boruto are about to fight, he separates them and says "You can't fight, I am the captain of this team". Similarly, the new 8th Kara member Ōga also appears in the post-Baryon mode chapters. I am thinking of making a CRT about Genjutsu, if it didn't work out, I will add this Canon topic to the CRT.
 
It just dawned on me but Kaguya shouldn’t have lost that fight. She should’ve known the Six Paths Jutsu via BZ. Shinra Tensei would’ve come in Clutch tbh.
 
NeoKingOfLight said:
It just dawned on me but Kaguya shouldn’t have lost that fight. She should’ve known the Six Paths Jutsu via BZ. Shinra Tensei would’ve come in Clutch tbh.
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The whole fight was plot induced
Naruto hit her with 9 rasenshurikens at once and she only got scratches from it. WHILE weakened from chakra loss
The fight in a standard battle scenario doesn't exceed 3 chapters
 
Speaking of, while I have you guys here, I have to ask again… Shouldn’t Kaguya have 2 Layers of to Durability Negation Resistance at the Cellular Level?

We know the Incomplete Juubi was susceptible to Naruto’s Wind Blades as he cut its tails. Madara partially resisted being completely bisected by the Wind Blades, and Kaguya practically no sold them.
 
UchihaSlayer96 said:
I think his point was that someone strong enough to tank one of Naruto's strongest ninjutsu with no next to no damage and casually destroy the PS while super low on chakra and injured should've disposed of Team 7 rather easily if PIS didn't exist.
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Oh sure, I think it's less PIS and moreso just her not taking them seriously tho (seems more like CIS)
 
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