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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
HelloThere1089
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But what are you talking about tho?
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People would be more inclined to accept, galaxy level to universal otsutsuki if we don't have fodders scaling to them.
(Though we have humans in DBS capable of 2c Ap)
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MOON LEVEL JIRAIYA
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I guess the only thing standing in the way is if episode 281 is considered canon
HelloThere1089
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I still have no idea how you are getting to galaxy to uni lvl tho. Anyways if this is for a CRT and you can't disclose it then fine.
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Where is the scan even from?
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My point is we have substantial evidence indicating that they created their own dimensions, or at the very least, that they possess the ability to do so. Additionally, there is evidence suggesting that these dimensions are parallel to the Naruto world. I'm saying if we are patient will would indeed get more information on this as the series proceed.
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Vjump database entries apparently
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the way satire stuff here gets more likes than actual upgrade attempts
HelloThere1089
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I agree. Some upgrade attempts are way funnier.the way satire stuff here gets more likes than actual upgrade attempts
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I'm still laughing my ass off to this one
https://vsbattles.com/threads/low-2-c-naruto-upgrade-samlex-could-never.171907/
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For Baryon Mode, we get confirmation that it's not Life Span, rather it's Life Force that is burnt.
So that 3-day trash should be thrown away. Isshiki was a beast.
Don't we equate Life Force to Soul in the NV? Potential soul damage with Baryon Mode??
Makes sense why Kurama included even if the tailed beast soul is destroyed, they will ressurect.
So that 3-day trash should be thrown away. Isshiki was a beast.
Don't we equate Life Force to Soul in the NV? Potential soul damage with Baryon Mode??
Makes sense why Kurama included even if the tailed beast soul is destroyed, they will ressurect.
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In my opinion, the most effective way to use that information is as supporting evidence. However, I don't believe it can stand on its own.
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that doesnt debunk it being hyperbole lmfao, what determines something being hyperbole is the context in which its used in a sentence not the literal definition of a single word. for example i could say i smacked yo mom's ass so hard it jiggled space time, this doesnt mean space time isnt a scientific word.
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Speak for yourself. I will have you know my smacks do jiggle space and time.
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To be fair it could jiggle in space with time
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So how does Uzuhiko work with stuff like Ultra Instinct?
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We got Tier 2 ass smacks before Tier 4 Naruto
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Koji made a possible guess that Isshiki intended to destroy the space when he was shrinking everything.
I believe they have space-time creation and destruction, though there are no substantive feats besides Kaguya.
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Prime Isshiki is a beast, whereas Jigen Reincarnated Isshiki is a discount version since Isshiki estimated he had at least 20 hours of life in that body prior to fighting Baryon Mode Naruto, and Baryon Mode was able to bring that down to initially less than 30 minutes, and then finally down to less than 10 minutes.
Still doesn't make Baryon Mode useful against opponents whose lifespans are longer than that version of Isshiki's
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Ultra Instinct will nullify it.
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now you see if studio pierrot wasnt an absolute bum they could have done this in the anime canon
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Kurama has what?... A millenia of life, possibly higher (likely immortal).
It is the same damage that Kurama gets that Isshiki receives. It was a battle of who was going to die first.
Isshiki's life force is constant in his real body as well as in Jigen's decrepit one. He stated he resurrected with his full power. Separate Life Force from Life Span.
Life Force is used in place of Soul and chakra in NV. I'm not sure how it's quantifiable in a match setting however, I'm advocating for soul damage as well.
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Life Manipulation
Life Manipulation is the ability to manipulate the life force that courses inside living beings or the very concept of life itself. Animation: Some life manipulators are able to breathe life into inanimate objects, turning them into living creatures to aid them in combat. Plant Manipulation...
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If Baryon Mode’s Lifespan negging strikes is “Percentage Based”, does that make it more broken?
Each strike shaves off 3% of your lifespan.
Each strike shaves off 3% of your lifespan.
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Yes.Life Manipulation
Life Manipulation is the ability to manipulate the life force that courses inside living beings or the very concept of life itself. Animation: Some life manipulators are able to breathe life into inanimate objects, turning them into living creatures to aid them in combat. Plant Manipulation...
However, it's nonsense that 20 hours of lifespan is all that Baryon Mode can destroy when Kurama's immortal lifespan is also destroyed by Baryon Mode.
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Each strike is 0.001 nanoseconds.
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Nah, it's relative.
It depends on what has been shaved from the user.
Whatever amount of Kurama's life force has been destroyed, it is replicated on the opp after contact.
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Yes.Based on this?
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Kurama's Life Force, worth at least a millennia or more of life, reduced to a few minutes by being using Baryon Mode
Prime Isshiki's Life Force in a decrepit vessel, worth several hours of life, reduced to several minutes by being hit multiple times by Baryon Mode
Would the situation still be the same if Isshiki had his regular life span?
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Kurama's loss of life force is not equivalent to Isshiki's loss of life force. Kurama died before Isshiki. Majority of Kurama's expended life force went into increasing Naruto's AP and Speed. The remaining went to decreasing Isshiki's life force.
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I don't think it works that way. However, I do agree that 'Kurama's loss of life force is not equivalent to Isshiki's loss of life force.' The energy involved isn't split into two distinct forms like you mentioned( one for draining life forces, and the other for enhancing physical attributes). The same energy that enhances physical attributes is also responsible for draining life force upon contact. The energy, generated from the chakra fusion, is what depletes life force. However, it’s the continuous maintenance of this chakra fusion that ultimately results in the user's death. In Kurama's case, his death was a consequence of exhausting all his chakra while sustaining that form.
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But the energy created can't be equal to the energy that comes in contact with Isshiki. That's just not possible at all. So like I said, the energy created will always be far more than the energy that depletes Isshiki's life.
Edit: Also it has to be split.
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Wow, all that Furry Mode and Dimension mumbo jumbo is really nice and all.
But how about we use our time to do something more productive? Something like compiling Lode's greatest hits.No I am not letting lil bro live this shit down, ever.
This was made in @Shadowbokunohero's honor
But how about we use our time to do something more productive? Something like compiling Lode's greatest hits.
This was made in @Shadowbokunohero's honor
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Well if that is your interpretation then no problem.
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Yes, I believe so. Life force is not measured by life span, rather life span is a result of life force.
If we go strictly by the Narutowiki, healing, stamina, stats, and vitality are also results of life force. So there's more going for Life Force than simply life span.
Isshiki life force was constant because chakra and life force go hth. There was never any time where Isshiki claimed his chakra is less potent.
At some point, Naruto referred to his soul as his life force.
Jigen's body couldn't handle that Isshiki's chakra (Life force by extension) not because it was inherently bad but because it wasn't a good host for his power. Good host is judged by destiny shenanigans.
