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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

SlendVeny said:
Probably around the same age as Post-Timeskip Naruto to draw the parallel, I imagine. If Boruto had stayed in the Time Slip, they'd call it Naruto's Son Shippuden.
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I think so. Naruto and Boruto both were 15 at the end of their timeskips I think. Naruto turns 16 before pain arc tho. And 17 at the end of the war.
 
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The Sarada statement if true is of DB Toriyama level crazy. But the Naruto and Sakura in beach attire comment is a massive stretch 🗿
 
Ghostimuscrime said:
OMG
a japanese translator just debunked the allegations against Kishi
id send the tweet but she privated
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well yeah anyone that knows how japanese works would tell you japanese is a heavy contextual based language, similar to how you can call a child cute without it implying physical attraction, the issue is the fans that make it worse by saying random shit. it comes off as really weird in english , you dont have to make a shit ton of weird mental gymnastics.
 
UchihaSlayer96 said:
Okay, so all I'm hearing is that you have no support for your claim.
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Sure, but I don't think literal evidence is needed if something is obvious enough. Madara has good genjutsu, Hashirama was his rival his whole life, it's only natural that he would've used it on him if he could
UchihaSlayer96 said:
And if we're being fr, the guy who spent his entire life fighting the Uchiha Clan probably knows not to look them in the eye...
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One would think, but it doesn't seem to be the case.
UchihaSlayer96 said:
I never claimed Madara never used genjutsu, but you need to prove that Hashirama fell victim to it AND broke out of it. Otherwise, your claim is completely baseless.
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I'm fine with him being able to resist it if that's what you're implying. The main point is just that outside of two questionable statements, nothing in the series suggests that Sharingan genjutsu is so broken that anyone who gets sighted by it is finished.
UchihaSlayer96 said:
What do you think a general rule of thumb means, exactly
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Something that's usually true but isn't always?
UchihaSlayer96 said:
And the statement is very conclusive. It's literally an objective source explaining all the ways to deal with genjutsu, and makes a point of differentiating between ocular and non-ocular genjutsu. Stop grasping at straws and just take the statements for what they clearly are.
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Yes there is a differentiation, but that doesn't change my point. If these were the ways that you deal with the two types of genjutsu regularly but there are exceptions, the statements aren't contradicted.

Also, Deidara broke out of Sasuke's genjutsu, Orochimaru was resisting Itachi's Shackle States after already being put under and DID break out of Sasuke's, and Kurenai broke out of Itachi's genjutsu (and in case you're gonna say something about Itachi bagging, the databook considers it a valid feat).
UchihaSlayer96 said:
He had Shisui's Sharingan covered, not the 69 other ones he had out.
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What do Sharingan planted on his arm have to do with ocular genjutsu? It makes no sense that Sharingan on your arm are gonna help you break out of something done to your ocular nerves. There's a reason Kakashi closed his normal eye when facing Tsukuyomi despite having a Sharingan
 
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Shadowbokunohero said:
well yeah anyone that knows how japanese works would tell you japanese is a heavy contextual based language, similar to how you can call a child cute without it implying physical attraction, the issue is the fans that make it worse by saying random shit. it comes off as really weird in english , you dont have to make a shit ton of weird mental gymnastics.
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If you want to call out Kishi just point out sexy jutsu.
 
Shadowbokunohero said:
well yeah anyone that knows how japanese works would tell you japanese is a heavy contextual based language, similar to how you can call a child cute without it implying physical attraction, the issue is the fans that make it worse by saying random shit. it comes off as really weird in english , you dont have to make a shit ton of weird mental gymnastics.
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yh pretty much

found out they also use the word meaning hot or cool in everyday contexts
people be losing their minds over nothing


anything to hate on the naruto franchise
 
In my opinion, Madara might have attempted to use Genjutsu on Hashirama but failed. I have a theory that Hashirama should be resistant to Genjutsu or perhaps able to negate it. There are two reasons for this: first, he is a sensory-type Shinobi, and second, Hashirama is a Sage (who masters natural energy).

We all know that Hashirama is a skilled sensory-type Shinobi, even outside of Sage Mode. He was able to sense Madara’s presence after hearing just a faint sound, while Tobirama, who is also skilled in sensory techniques, did not sense him.

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Hashirama was also able to sense the malevolent presence of Black Zetsu in the Valley of the End, which was later confirmed by Black Zetsu itself.

[ https://gyazo.com/8e381ea62754c1c3496cc41fe48f474f ]

And it should be noted that Black Zetsu was skilled enough to hide from Madara for decades before making Madara believe that it was created as an embodiment of Madara’s desires.

The reason I bring this up is because innate sensory abilities make it much harder to be affected by Genjutsu, as they can sense it.

[ https://gyazo.com/f13eb4b4f3460923eabcdc0d9a5c0deb ]

For example, Karin can evaluate her own chakra and that of others to determine if anyone is under the influence of Sharingan Genjutsu. Therefore, I believe that even outside of Sage Mode, Hashirama would be a difficult target for Genjutsu.

Additionally, Hashirama himself was quite adept at using Genjutsu.
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Given his excellent chakra control, it would be very challenging to trap Hashirama in an illusion.

However, since this is Hashirama’s Edo Tensei version by Orochimaru, I’m still uncertain whether these techniques are from Hashirama himself or if there was some intervention by Orochimaru.

So we can assume that Madara likely tried to use Genjutsu on Hashirama during their fight. We can also assume that Hashirama managed to break free from the Genjutsu and continued to overpower Madara during the battle. But for now, we still don’t have enough evidence, so this is just my opinion.
 
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