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It doesn't seem like Himarwari scales at all to Jura.
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1. I'm pretty sure I am. Regardless of who made the statement the context here is channeling momo power only came into place from true essence. plus i'm pretty sure boruto mentioned it. And he did take the risk, that's exactly why seconds later momo could briefly take over.Against Kawaki
How sure are you about that? Also I don't see Boruto calling TE channeling, just Eida. Even if he did mean what you said, him thinking he can control it better than before doesn't mean he's gonna take the risk.
It really wasn't that big. Also TE Boruto not doing it doesn't mean he can't, he only used one normal Rasengan in the fight when trying to make Code let go of Kawaki, and obviously if he made a big one there, Kawaki would've been hit too. If anything Boruto had the upperhand, landing more hits and Eida being pretty concerned for Code's life. Kawaki did almost nothing, only occupying one of his arms for a brief moment with his clone and that's it.
There's really no proof that Base Naruto could overload her absorption considering SPSM Naruto needed a Super Oodama Rasengan for that, or one shot her considering she survived even a SPSM Super Super Oodama Rasengan (which even if not at FP, should be far above Base Naruto's equivalent attack) which left Naruto worn out afterward. Also regardless of Delta scaling, the narrative is just that Code>Nerfed Naruto, something Amado and Code posited despite his ninjutsu.
I hope the Jura headbutt panel don’t get animated like the Boruto headbutt sceneHimawari and Kurama's existence is intriguing
Her healing is also better than whatever Naruto was capable of and closer to Bijuu reforming from chakra so that's a solid statement.
And this is just LOL levels of insane.
Boruto really worked his ass off this timeskip so his base is just that much better than whatever anyone else is capable of.
I hope it has the bonk sound effect.I hope the Jura headbutt panel don’t get animated like the Boruto headbutt scene
1. I'm pretty sure I am.
I mean it's plain to see that it's not the same as what he used against Code, so it could just be a lesser version of channeling his power.Regardless of who made the statement the context here is channeling momo power only came into place from true essence. plus i'm pretty sure boruto mentioned it. And he did take the risk, that's exactly why seconds later momo could briefly take over.
No, you're the one that claimed that he can't use it, I'm just saying it's unprovable either way so an argument can't be based around that.2. It was quite big, and an odama rasengan is still one. you would need proof true essence can.
I'm talking about here when Code was holding Kawaki. This and the Vanishing Rasengan are the only times he uses Rasengan at all in the fight. Also even with the use of his claw marks, he didn't have the upperhand. No she was concerned throughout.Kawaki was not in the way, kawaki was actually quite out of the way as boruto specifically told him to step back coz it was now dangerous. There was no reason not to use a big attack that scales far above his physicals. I didn't say code is stronger than boruto. Stop focusing on physicals. Code would win in a 1v1 due to better use of his abilities. Also, eida only actually became concerned and told him to run when momo appeared.
Size =/= strength. Base Kid Naruto's Rasengan is the same in appearance as SPSM Naruto's Normal Rasengan, but the power is orders of magnitude apart.3. A fatigued and drained base naruto produced same super odama raswengan against mom. this is not a point.
Yes he held back from his full power, but he still felt the need to use Super Super Oodama Rasengan, and kept that blasting her for quite a while to take her out, meaning Naruto's Hypothetical Strongest Rasengan>Delta's survivability (not the same as durability)~SPSM Super Super Oodama Rasengan>>Nerfed Naruto's Super Super Oodama Rasengan. Not to say Nerfed Naruto wouldn't do a lot of damage to her with the attack, he would, but she wouldn't be in nearly as bad a state.And she did not survive a SPSM naruto rasengan. Naruto made it clear he held back so she would not die but just be unconscious.
Demonstrably notThe point is if she could bleed and take damage from spsm naruto punches then she would die from a cho odama rasengan that is far above said physicals to a beyond one shot state.
Doesn't matter since Delta scales to SPSM Naruto's Rasengan.Do you know in this argument naruto has not used sage mode.
Sure, so in overall combat ability TE Boruto~/~>Code~>Nerfed Naruto, so either way Boruto's statement doesn't make much sense as he indicates a sizeable gap between him and Naruto/Sasuke (thinks that even with him being a weakling, Naruto and Sasuke are worthy of being considered decent/strong fighters). I don't see why they wouldn't, when that's not tied to him having Kurama at all.lastly even code was like "ehhn well i should be able to win 1v1" and amado was like "he was unclear how much weaker naruto was, but things probably won't go his way". All these statements are not certain and showed they would be relative. Code ability makes him quite hard to deal with even if you are a bit stronger. Someone evenly matched would most likely lose to him. also i don't think they factored sage mode
Whooping a child for bad mannersI’m confused, what exactly happened here?
My worry is actually when Jura mentions her healing being more in line with a tailed beasts. Opens up the door for it to be rationalized that Jinchuriki inadvertently limit tailed beast and that they can't actually use their powers to the full extent, which could really boost Kurama unsealed in statsNot really, we're already told that Himawari has the best affinity for Kurama's chakra than any other Jin (even Nard), so I imagine that is going to be the hand waving for why Himawari is so strong.
Kurama=/=Kurama+Naruto=/=Kurama+Naruto in perfect affinity.My worry is actually when Jura mentions her healing being more in line with a tailed beasts. Opens up the door for it to be rationalized that Jinchuriki inadvertently limit tailed beast and that they can't actually use their powers to the full extent, which could really boost Kurama unsealed in stats
Yes. Because if the Jinchuriki limit their tailed beast, and Kurama in this weakened state is enough to boost Himawari to a level she's able to fight someone comparable to Code then that would imply that at his full power state he's at least able to fight on that level.Tbh I think I'm misunderstanding what you're trying to say here. Are you saying Himawari scaling to Jura, with the given implications, somehow opens up an argument in favor of episode 1 Kurama being god tier? Is that right? Then I don't see how.
Tier 5 HashiramaYes. Because if the Jinchuriki limit their tailed beast, and Kurama in this weakened state is enough to boost Himawari to a level she's able to fight someone comparable to Code then that would imply that at his full power state he's at least able to fight on that level.
Zenkai ampI mean either way unsealed Kurama is confirmed to be Founders level and no higher
I was confused myself tbhI’m confused, what exactly happened here?
Kiai eyeI was confused myself tbh
Its either
- An art error
- Very tiny TBB lasers like chidori senbon
- An attack that she healed so fast it looked like nothing happened
Chakra Needles. You can see them form and then the individual piercing. I think instead of fusing the Positive and Negative Chakra for a TBB, he just condensed them into separate needles and fired them off.Backhanded her then shot out a rapid fire Bijuudama laser probably
Yes. Because if the Jinchuriki limit their tailed beast, and Kurama in this weakened state is enough to boost Himawari to a level she's able to fight someone comparable to Code then that would imply that at his full power state he's at least able to fight on that level.
What feat scales him to True Essence Boruto?he is a god tier but not up to the likes of naruto and sasuke and above. He scales to true essence boruto which is like low end limited code. so around delta level ish. that's if he didn't improve at all. I think kawaki actually improved. He didn't just train anything else asides his karma. His eye is proof his karma evolved
On the one hand, back when we used to be moon level. On the other, chapter 626.Hiruzen Sarutobi will finaly have the recognitinon that he deserves
Hiruzen >> Hashirama
Himawari's potential is beyond just the power of the nine-tails. It is very possible she can use Kurama's chakra better than Kurama himself. They have been glimpses of an awakening within her even b4 Kurama.Oh I'm sure of that. I'm more talking about if Himawari starts scaling to god tiers following the potential logic I outlined. Because that would put full power Kurama at scaling to God Tiers (downscaling probably) which adds a few more characters to that tier in the verse
Jura fired the tiny condensed black and white chakra used in making bijuu bombs.I’m confused, what exactly happened here?
I'm fine with KM0 Himawari>K1 KawakiAlso… @MinatoSparkle
The scan showing Hima healing a little after suffering the damage shows that the healing affect isn’t instant nor takes place at the instance of damage but shortly after, which means, as I pointed out, her durability scales to his strikes. She has to be able to withstand them before the healing helps her. Now yes, that is also an endurance feat, but she was getting hit harder than Kv1 Kawaki whom, despite his regen, was knocked out from weaker attacks.
What's ******* wrong with Chinese community? They want to lick Himawari's waist and so badly? Im very sick of Chinese Himawari fans in .manhuagui.com//**/
Naturally, the evolution of the ten tails when it devours Otsutsuki chakra is to turn into the Shinju.Eh, this might be less an ability for code and more just a sympton of him messing around with something without a proper understanding. But if it gave anything, probably just Mind Manipulation