Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

[UchihaSlayer96]

I mean… isn’t it irrelevant tbf? Kiba doesn’t scale anywhere. Even if we take it at face value:

• 3 Head Dog (2-3x) > 2 Head Dog >= Sakon/Ukon > Jirobo

Even high balling it makes Kiba sub-Jonin Level still, no?

Not quite. The 3 Headed Wolf destroyed some of the Juubi spawns, which were able to tank a punch from Pre-100H Sakura.

 

[DavidTPPM]

Not quite. The 3 Headed Wolf destroyed some of the Juubi spawns, which were able to tank a punch from Pre-100H Sakura.

Also a kick and a sword slice from base Naruto and Sasuke seemingly without any damage

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

Kaguya is 18.62 KiloFoe (via certain attacks)
Goku (DBZ Manga) is 4.212 KiloFoe

Does this mean if someone (magically) scales physicals to ETSO itll mean Kaguya would solo all of DBZ?

 

[BlastX]

Nah, that's overtime, the only way she would get him is that if they let her charge.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Shibai fully scales to that value so he’d block DBZ manga Goku’s attacks just fine.

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

Nah, that's overtime, the only way she would get him is that if they let her charge.

thats why I said IF they get her scaled to it

not saying Im gonna push it but theres def arguments to be made for kaguya scaling to the full value since the entire product already finished production by the time it appeared on screen



either way its kinda cool to see the highest rating of narutoverse be above the highest of dbzverse
never would have thought theyd let this pass

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Kaguya would solo all of DBZ?

She already does if you equalized speed.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Kaguya will not scale to it. She’s hard capped by Uzuhiko. And there’s no good argument for her physicals scaling to it at all.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

At least from how it’s translated an “offensive capacity” doesn’t necessarily imply power.

All that really says is that his ability to attack is tripled.

Which kinda goes hand in hand with the added bonuses this form has over the original mentioned in the previous sentence.

An Additional Head for greater Field of View + more range via longer claws and Fangs would give someone a substantially better offense.

The first statement is straightforwardly referring to AP tho

I don't think that's it, as the specific term means offensive/striking power

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Why tf does the databook say Three Headed Wolf both doubles (影分身の数に応じて攻撃回数が増え、威力も倍増し相手を圧倒。) and triples power

I think I figured it out.
The doubling is in reference to Kiba and his Shadow Clone.
So the combination of Kiba + his shadow clone or Kiba + Akamaru results in 2x their power.
And the combination of Kiba + Akamaru + Shadow clone = 3 Headed Wolf = 3x amp.

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

Kaguya will not scale to it. She’s hard capped by Uzuhiko. And there’s no good argument for her physicals scaling to it at all.

the uzuhiko argument is cheeks my guy let it go


all we need is some god-sent savior to bring back UES cough cough points to Net
and she will SLAM (ap wise)

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

the uzuhiko argument is cheeks my guy let it go


all we need is some god-sent savior to bring back UES cough cough points to Net
and she will SLAM (ap wise)

I urge you to refute the Uzuhiko argument whenever the ETSO scaling thread gets made. Be my guest. Also a UES =/= you scale physically to every attack, you can have amped attacks beyond your physicals in a UES. Returning Naruto to a UES verse is not the salvation you think it is.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

I urge you to refute the Uzuhiko argument whenever the ETSO scaling thread gets made. Be my guest. Also a UES =/= you scale physically to every attack, you can have amped attacks beyond your physicals in a UES. Returning Naruto to a UES verse is not the salvation you think it is.

I mean, the verse was always considered a UES until just last year, yet Kaguya never scaled to the ETSB lol.
It literally changes nothing whatsoever.

 

[Godernet]

I don't think that's it, as the specific term means offensive/striking power

Shoulda lead with that translation then

Capacity and power have to different implications

 

[DavidTPPM]

Kaguya will not scale to it. She’s hard capped by Uzuhiko. And there’s no good argument for her physicals scaling to it at all.

I agree she doesn't scale physically to ETSO at all but Uzuhiko probably isn't a cap for her since Burrito does say there's "no limit to Uzuhikos power" meaning it can like, grow in power the more he charges it far beyond 5-B

 

[Godernet]

but Uzuhiko probably isn't a cap for her since Burrito does say there's "no limit to Uzuhikos power" meaning it can like, grow in power the more he charges it far beyond 5-B

1st Form Juubi ~ Uzuhiko ~ Hokage Naruto for all having immeasurable/no limit to their power/chakra statements.

That requires the assumption that Uzuhiko is bare minimum using the Earth’s Full Rotationary Force at all times at its weakest rather than when Uzuhiko is at Maximum Output.

Given there’s no real evidence for the former and Boruto says that he can “hold back” Uzuhiko.

And him actively trying to interrogate Code by keeping him alive with a visibly weaker Uzuhiko.

Currently the more realistic way of looking at it is that Max Output = Earth’s Rotational Energy, and any weaker usage is him holding back the “limitless” potential of Uzuhiko.

Ofc it doesn’t necessarily have to be a hard cap at 600 ZTs since it does incorporate Boruto’s power as well (who can already damage the Shinju without Planet Chakra) and some translations imply other incorporated forces from the planet play a more minor but mentionable role in the jutsu, but hundreds or thousands of times greater than Tier 5 for substantially weaker characters than Code and Hidari is absolutely insane to think with the information we have rn.

 

[Samlex1234]

Kaguya will not scale to it. She’s hard capped by Uzuhiko. And there’s no good argument for her physicals scaling to it at all.

You keep saying this nonsense ?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

You keep saying this nonsense ?

You conceded to that nonsense

 

[Samlex1234]

1st Form Juubi ~ Uzuhiko ~ Hokage Naruto for all having immeasurable/no limit to their power/chakra statements.

That requires the assumption that Uzuhiko is the bare minimum using the Earth’s Full Rotationary Force at all times at its weakest rather than when Uzuhiko is at Maximum Output.

Given there’s no real evidence for the former Boruto says that he can “hold back” Uzuhiko.

And he actively trying to interrogate Code by keeping him alive with a visibly weaker Uzuhiko.

Currently the more realistic way of looking at it is that Max Output = Earth’s Rotational Energy, and any weaker usage is him holding back the “limitless” potential of Uzuhiko.

Ofc it doesn’t necessarily have to be a hard cap at 600 ZTs since it does incorporate Boruto’s power as well (who can already damage the Shinju without Planet Chakra) and some translations imply other incorporated forces from the planet play a more minor but mentionable role in the jutsu, but hundreds or thousands of times greater than Tier 5 for substantially weaker characters than Code and Hidari is absolutely insane to think with the information we have rn.

You guys don't listen. But bring this argument up again. When someone tries to scale Kaguya to ETSO. I have no incentive to debate.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Phew good thing Net dropped that comment so Samlex had an excuse to not make a thread he would inevitably get cooked on, good thing he can hide behind all of us sheeple being biased and abusing the vsbw system. Gotta save that useless pride

 

[Deceived3596]

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Arc7Kuck exposed!!!

 

[Samlex1234]

If anyone believes Boruto is strictly capped at 5-B, don’t bother arguing here. Save your time and energy—you’ll need it. Thanks.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

If anyone believes Boruto is strictly capped at 5-B, don’t bother arguing here. Save your time and energy—you’ll need it. Thanks.

I’m charging my spirit bomb for your thread don’t worry

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

you’ll need it.

 

[Excellence616]

My expansive truth seeking balls of steel

Intro the current understanding of the etso isn’t the best interpretation of the events shown in the series, this thread is to clear all that up. Section one: problems with Current calc The calc uses the distance between earth and the sun as the radius. This is wrong because the etso grows...

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[sageof8paths]

My expansive truth seeking balls of steel

Intro the current understanding of the etso isn’t the best interpretation of the events shown in the series, this thread is to clear all that up. Section one: problems with Current calc The calc uses the distance between earth and the sun as the radius. This is wrong because the etso grows...

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I was just gonna post that here thanks

 

[Samlex1234]

I’m charging my spirit bomb for your thread don’t worry

Looks like I need not wait lets go fight in the new thread.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

You’re a Sage8 merchant

 

[Samlex1234]

You’re a Sage8 merchant

Whatever man. Lets dance

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

You’re not Madara, this is real life, we’re text debating goon

 

[Samlex1234]

You’re not Madara, this is real life, we’re text debating goon

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

 

[Ped2018]

Cryiiiiiiing

 

[sageof8paths]

You’re a Sage8 merchant

What does this even meannn

 

[sageof8paths]

On a serious note though could y’all give your opinions on the thread I worked hard on that

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Yeah I’ll try and find some time in between work, it’s a long ass OP so it might take a while

 

[Gokukid2005]

Kaguya will not scale to it. She’s hard capped by Uzuhiko. And there’s no good argument for her physicals scaling to it at all.

THE 4B META WILL NEVER DIE

 

[sageof8paths]

Yeah I’ll try and find some time in between work, it’s a long ass OP so it might take a while

Yeah I think it’s the longest I’ve ever made, thanks

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Learn the art of concise argumentation and brevity. Makes it more digestible for staff and more likely for them to be receptive to it all