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Personally I have SM Minato above Rinnegan Obito, MKCM2 Naruto, and Base Hashirama, but below BSM tier characters like EMS Madara, Peak EMS Sasuke, and Kurama
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I have Base Minato at roughly Tobirama's level, and I have Tobirama at roughly Base Hashirama's level, so I have SM Minato at roughly SM Hashirama's level.Personally I have SM Minato above Rinnegan Obito, MKCM2 Naruto, and Base Hashirama, but below BSM tier characters like EMS Madara, Peak EMS Sasuke, and Kurama
I probably have SM Minato at the bottom of the same tier where SM Hashirama's at the top, but def not the same level. If you exclude higher Wood Style jutsu like the Wood Dragon, Wood Golem, and Shinsuu Senju, then maybe.O have Base Minato at roughly Tobirama's level, and I have Tobirama at roughly Base Hashirama's level, so I have SM Minato at roughly SM Hashirama's level.
Hashirama's big wood is stronger tho
I'd say his Sage Rasengan would probably be on par with some of Hashirama's stuff, but probably not the Wood Golem or ShinsuSenjuI probably have SM Minato at the bottom of the same tier where SM Hashirama's at the top, but def not the same level. If you exclude higher Wood Style jutsu like the Wood Dragon, Wood Golem, and Shinsuu Senju, then maybe.
I just imagined that thing you did for your shorts with Code and Orochimaru being fraudulent and imagined SM Minato pushing aside Hashirama physically then hiding from the Perfect Susanoo and Shinsuu SenjuPhysically, SM Minato does really well in that tier.
It's only when you factor in the Megazords and the mountain range sized Jutsu that things get outta hand lmfao.
Don't give me ideasI just imagined that thing you did for your shorts with Code and Orochimaru being fraudulent and imagined SM Minato pushing aside Hashirama physically then hiding from the Perfect Susanoo and Shinsuu Senju
I just got divine inspiration for a short, and I think you'll love it lmaoI just imagined that thing you did for your shorts with Code and Orochimaru being fraudulent and imagined SM Minato pushing aside Hashirama physically then hiding from the Perfect Susanoo and Shinsuu Senju
Singlehandedly defeats the Axis Powers, then shows Adolf-Chan visions of what things could've been like if he'd gone to art school as he's delivering the final punch to end the war.Dope idea for a video: What if Naruto was in WW2
"I don't know, you are a... BLONDE HAIR? BLUE EYES? SUPERHUMAN STRENGTH? WHERE HAFF YOU BEEN?"Dope idea for a video: What if Naruto was in WW2
I just got divine inspiration for a short, and I think you'll love it lmao
Naruto the type to Blitzkrieg Adolf's ass and then proceed to psychologically break him too before Adolf kills himself anyways.Singlehandedly defeats the Axis Powers, then shows Adolf-Chan visions of what things could've been like if he'd gone to art school as he's delivering the final punch to end the war.
Iirc, wasn’t it stated he was only Kage because of his hard Counter to Shukaku? As I recall he also has no significant statements. He was weaker than 3rd Kazekage lore I think and Gaara has better feats, even against Deidara (I ngl, I didn’t expect you to say Naruto beats this Gaara Easily).Why?
(1) It’s just slamming a Rasengan down. (2) I never said Naruto wasn’t able to keep up. (3) Chakra Strength is the topic of discussion, not “overall” ability, so there is no argument that was made that Naruto wouldn’t be able to keep up or that he would slow down Minato, even if Minato has stronger Chakra.If Minato was stronger, he could've just attacked himself after Naruto added senjutsu to his Rasengan, so Naruto wouldn't slow him down.
Same as above.They're also knocked back comparably by the Rasengan exploding.
I think you’re misunderstand the argument. The way I see it (Again, if the One Shot Scaling that i’m a proponent for is acceptable): SM Minato (Chakra Strength) > BSM Naruto (Chakra Strength) >= BM Minato (Additive (Chakra Strength)) > Base Minato (Chakra Strength) >= 100% V2 9 Tails (Chakra Strength) > BM Naruto (Chakra Strength).Calling Minato support for someone he's stronger than would also be odd.
It is. This is the reason why so many people had a hard time accepting that Base Naruto was so strong after gaining Six Paths Chakra. The strength of Kurama’s Chakra is insignificant compared to Hagoromo’s Six Paths Chakra. Hell it was Fodder against even Juubito. Does it have its perks? Yes. Cloaks, Chakra Arms, “Volume” (Which is good for Stamina Reasons), Healing Factor, TBB (Which is AoE perks), etc. But that is amplified by the Six Paths Chakra. The other Biju Chakra + Kurama’s Chakra just gives Naruto extra Six Paths Chakra ontop of what Hagoromo gave him. So let’s be specific about it.BM definitely isn't treated as an additive power. If it was, it would be legit useless for SPSM Naruto.
Refer Above + Base Naruto is still amped by the SPC. Kurama + Biju Chakra Together creates a fraction more SPC, which is negligible to the entire system. Also, idk if you remember but Sasuke w/o MS Activated is still able to tank DR Madara’s strikes without injury. Base Naruto scales to this Sasuke, so being able to tango w/ DR Madara isn’t as big a deal as you’re making it out to be and the fact remains that Kurama’s Chakra Strength and Benefits are negligible to the amp of SPC he has from Hagoromo. It didn’t change anything significantly.But it (along with a little bit of chakra from the other Bijuu) boosted SPSM Naruto from being reacted to and blocked by Injured Pre-God Tree Juubidara to tangoing with Dual Rinnegan Juubidara.
Not true and you’re wrong on the “greater context”. The context of his statements is in regard to Chakra Control, nothing more.I mean it's kinda just stated (I imagine you're gonna say that it's only about chakra transferring but that's just a specific example given to highlight it and the greater context is chakra; he literally says Minato and Kushina pale in comparison to him which isn't something one would say when he's only better in a very niche trait).
The one shot clearly debunks this sentiment unless you think and want to argue that 100% V2’s are less than half the strength of their Biju, which is a notion that is proven wrong in the fight with Bee and Naruto.And the narrative is pretty clearly for KCM2 Naruto to rival or surpass Minato, since Kakashi mistakes Naruto's speed for Minato's (which is Minato's best trait) and it's intended to allow Naruto to defeat Obito, who's close to Minato.
False. This only states Naruto “can”. It doesn’t mean Naruto “has”, and again, the one shot disabuses you of these notions.Naruto's rapidly growing back is also tied to his arc of catching up to Minato, so his back being indistinguishable from Minato's symbolically completes his arc of reaching that level.
And by how much stronger is this Obito vs YM Obito physically? Minato made him lose an arm and blood shoot from out his back around his spine/ribs. It could be that Obito being stronger is why he isn’t as badly hurt. I also remember a few people arguing he tanked this Naruto’s Rasengan to the face w/o Damage, which would negate your argument.Featwise it also doesn't make sense to have Minato above him since KCM2 Naruto could physically damage a stronger Obito than the one that took Minato's Rasengan.
Years later:Naruto the type to Blitzkrieg Adolf's ass and then proceed to psychologically break him too before Adolf kills himself anyways.