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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

It's impossible to react to when he's going from mirror to mirror. When he's going from mirror to person or something he's not moving at the speed of light
 
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Raiden_Azno said:
It's stated on the profile, Edo Haku is stronger on his character profile in the 4th databook
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From what I'm getting:
1. Mirror to mirror = Light speed
2. Any other form of travel = Fodder
Unless someone intercepted Haku in between mirrors, I don't see how anyone would scale.
 
Sasukesama0492 said:

There's also a scan that Daemon can reflect intentions even if he doesn't touch anyone with his hands.
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exactly as i suspected. The first two sentences are followed by full stops which indicate they are stand alone sentences. unlike sentences that are not finished that multiole periods are added to show it continues. To better put it, Amado statement reads; "He reflects all attacks. Any action that would inflict harm on him." The hand touching part is just for the last sentence and that alone
 
Nami_Kami said:
And there is also the fact that Daemon reflected Kawaki's blast without Daemon touching Code with his hands AND without Kawaki having any intent towards Daemon. So intent isn't even required here. It's just a bonus thing that'd get reflected.

It's likely Daemon simply improved his abillity since last time Amado withnessed it, or he just held back his full power since Eida made it clear that how their abillities work is a secret and they only share basic info.

Either way feats go against statements here and debunk Amado.
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he also took off that guard head without his hand touching anyone
 
KingTempest said:
It's impossible to react to when he's going from mirror to mirror. When he's going from mirror to person or something he's not moving at the speed of light
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this is actually just head canon. Haku is just too much an outlier beginning of the series. There is absolutely no logical reasoning as to why going from mirror to person would slow him down as opposed to mirror to mirror
 
karo_senpaii said:
this is actually just head canon. Haku is just too much an outlier beginning of the series. There is absolutely no logical reasoning as to why going from mirror to person would slow him down as opposed to mirror to mirror
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Haku is lightspeed because of the logic of reflections. Reflections is light bouncing off of mirrors, and the light from 2 mirrors moving towards one another moves at lightspeed.

We have this as law. This is an old conversation we have.

Going from mirror to mirror is based on the mirror catching his image, so he travels with that light movement.

Him going from mirror to person does not utilize the science of reflections, which is why it is not lightspeed.

Can yall stop calling shit you don't understand "head canon" instead of asking for proof?
 
karo_senpaii said:
he also took off that guard head without his hand touching anyone
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I know we went over this before, and iirc you were part of those conversation but in every instance of Daemon’s ability usage, we do not see both of his hands and he “was” standing next to someone.

So until something comes out and retcons those statements, that’s what it is.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
We should make everyone in Naruto FTL since Naruto beat Haku gg
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I mean, I view it as debunked/retconned given the Supersonic hype via the Sound Ninja in the CE, but the Implication isn’t just “Mirror>Mirror” and split scaling for “Mirror>Person>Mirror”.

My two cents are, as a creator, it wouldn’t make sense (And there is no justifying it)for me to create an ability for a character and have the main hyped aspect be irrelevant to the actual combat, which the ability is created for (Combat). So if I’m referencing my character being SoL traveling from mirror to mirror and they fight by attacking as they travel from mirror to mirror, the intent of me emphasizing speed is for combat purposes, not something irrelevant to that “aspect”.
 
Well Edo Haku (who would be weaker than alive Haku) could still like cross map blitz Kakashi with ice mirrors. So, I wouldn't say Haku's ice mirror light speed was retconned per se, when it can outpace a war arc Kakashi.
 
Haku’s mirrors were never retconned, they just don’t scale to anyone. Because a very specific part of jutsu is LS, he was stated to be slowing down during the part of the fight Sasuke was starting to keep up, and he deep down didn’t have it in him to kill either Naruto or Sasuke.
 
NeoKingOfLight said:
I know we went over this before, and iirc you were part of those conversation but in every instance of Daemon’s ability usage, we do not see both of his hands and he “was” standing next to someone.

So until something comes out and retcons those statements, that’s what it is.
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I watched that part in the anime and he literally wasn't touching anyone
 
Nierre said:
tbh Team 7 just looks hella awkward n out of place compared to the others.
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Facts. I think it’s because unlike the others, they just took the individual Chapter Cover picks and put them next to each other. Iirc, in JJK pic Yuji and Megumi were already drawn in a group pic. The Geto & Gojo were also drawn together. So it fits better.
 
NeoKingOfLight said:
I know we went over this before, and iirc you were part of those conversation but in every instance of Daemon’s ability usage, we do not see both of his hands and he “was” standing next to someone.

So until something comes out and retcons those statements, that’s what it is.
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It couldn't be clearer than this. both daemon hands are shown quite clear of anyone and the guard's head drops. I did not argue too much about it then coz i could not drop scans
 
Godernet said:
Haku’s mirrors were never retconned, they just don’t scale to anyone. Because a very specific part of jutsu is LS, he was stated to be slowing down during the part of the fight Sasuke was starting to keep up, and he deep down didn’t have it in him to kill either Naruto or Sasuke.
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I agree with one or two things here.

I think scaling the genin from this feat isn't a bad thing even if haku was holding back speedwise as Lee was never blitzed by sound, he blocked in time, the sound would have reached him anyways and he's fatigued.

However if we do not scale him to the genin, which is fine then I just think base guy and Lee easily scale to his speed by having the feat. He'd have to be going LS using 1 mirror or more, or else there's no use for this literal speed technique which is stated to go LS and he'd have to have another mirror somewhere on the battle field hence the databook outright stating he needs it.

Lastly I think it's goofy that Naruto never wanted to surpass haku or his clan who can use the same technique if he was faster then even the kages which are stated to be the strongest in their respective villages.
 
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