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Call me pessimistic but that feels like….extremely underwhelming? we legit had Bijuu in part 1 hyped up to do that. would it kill Ikemoto or kodachi to just write “with a single wave of his hands he blew apart countless planets…”??
"Kurama turning the planet into ash"He does have a respectable take on the ETSO, being semi agnostic on whether it’s destroying a ~planet sized realm vs one with a star. 5-B and High 6-A (exaton) level Kurama is still mad goofy.
Maybe the storms will be those on a cosmic scale ( like when galaxy clusters collide )
I hate to be that guy, but when they showed his Shibai and talked about his power it was very much hyping up Juubi level feats tenpachii type beatMaybe the storms will be those on a cosmic scale ( like when galaxy clusters collide )
Pretty satisfyingDo you guys think the way Naruto took down Kakuzu was satisfying or a wash?
I did say usually, although 100% Kurama being High 6-A with Bijuudamas isn't exactly inconsistentHe does have a respectable take on the ETSO, being semi agnostic on whether it’s destroying a ~planet sized realm vs one with a star. 5-B and High 6-A (exaton) level Kurama is still mad goofy.
Ehhhhh, very low end High 6-A via multipliers sure, but via feats hell no.I did say usually, although 100% Kurama being High 6-A with Bijuudamas isn't exactly inconsistent
I hate to be that guy, but when they showed his Shibai and talked about his power it was very much hyping up Juubi level feats tenpachii type beat
Also via downscaling from JuubitoEhhhhh, very low end High 6-A via multipliers sure, but via feats hell no.
Juubito gets his scaling from like 6-B+ calcs and upscaling to High 6-B, the High 6-A stuff (and my favorite 5-B Naruto gooning argument) come from the Nunoboko statement, which regular Kurama scales in no way to.Also via downscaling from Juubito
I am of the opinion that Juubito is Tier 5 considering him thinking he can make the moon and my favorite 5-B Naruto non-gooning argument, so Kurama being High 6-A from that is perfectly fine. Also Nunoboku is just a better way of combining TSOs which BSM Naruto somewhat scales to so Kurama should scale in some way to that, even if it's massively downscaling. The databook even describes it like simply another application of the TSOs' transforming nature (高密度のチャクラが凝縮した状態であるため、平らに引き伸ばしたり、自在に変形させられる。). It's definitely portrayed as the strongest form of the TSOs, but it's not like he's combining Red and Blue to create a totally different power, it's still TSOs in the end.Juubito gets his scaling from like 6-B+ calcs and upscaling to High 6-B, the High 6-A stuff (and my favorite 5-B Naruto gooning argument) come from the Nunoboko statement, which regular Kurama scales in no way to.
It’s great that Obito thinks he can replicate a feat that doesn’t scale to any of Hagoromo’s combat applicable attacks. Like Hag doesn’t scale to the SPCT, so that’s like a whole moot point. Also still no to the downscale lmao, MA is described as more akin to a fusion style amp than mere addition. There’s no feasible way to say that Kurama has scaling to the MA, much less when it’s BSM Naruto making the MA with Sasuke. And as you concede too, the Nunoboko is just a superior means of combining TSO, so I’m not seeing the vision outside of extending near maximum generosity to full Kurama. It’s quite literally a step below “Kurama is a few percentages of Kaguya’s power and thus downscales from the ETSO”.I am of the opinion that Juubito is Tier 5 considering him thinking he can make the moon and my favorite 5-B Naruto non-gooning argument, so Kurama being High 6-A from that is perfectly fine. Also Nunoboku is just a better way of combining TSOs which BSM Naruto somewhat scales to so Kurama should scale in some way to that, even if it's massively downscaling. The databook even describes it like simply another application of the TSOs' transforming nature (高密度のチャクラが凝縮した状態であるため、平らに引き伸ばしたり、自在に変形させられる。). It's definitely portrayed as the strongest form of the TSOs, but it's not like he's combining Red and Blue to create a totally different power, it's still TSOs in the end.
I'm not exactly a Naruto UES stan, but I also don't think characters really have attacks that are too gargantuanly stronger than anything else they have with very special exceptions, at least when it's a jutsu that comes from their own chakra and not an external source like Kirin or the Ashura Avatar.It’s great that Obito thinks he can replicate a feat that doesn’t scale to any of Hagoromo’s combat applicable attacks. Like Hag doesn’t scale to the SPCT, so that’s like a whole moot point. Also still no to the downscale lmao, MA is described as more akin to a fusion style amp than mere addition. There’s no feasible way to say that Kurama has scaling to the MA, much less when it’s BSM Naruto making the MA with Sasuke. And as you concede too, the Nunoboko is just a superior means of combining TSO, so I’m not seeing the vision outside of extending near maximum generosity to full Kurama. It’s quite literally a step below “Kurama is a few percentages of Kaguya’s power and thus downscales from the ETSO”.
Idk about this one tbh, it’s hard for me to take a statement like this serious considering how common it is for villains to overestimate themselvesI am of the opinion that Juubito is Tier 5 considering him thinking he can make the moon
I don’t like Juubito downplay either but didn’t SM Madara think he could take him down or something? Unless I’m misrememberingWhile we know Six Paths Madara > Juubito, I never bought the argument that he is some how “MASSIVELY” stronger since he got Kurama Nd Gyuuki. I highly doubt it’s a “massive” difference.
Y’all be treating Juubito like a step-child sometimes…
Yeah, but that’s because JJ’s kryptonite is NE. SM Naruto blew Obito’s back out with a standard Rasengan.I don’t like Juubito downplay either but didn’t SM Madara think he could take him down or something? Unless I’m misremembering
It is probably massive cause of how much stronger Rinnegan SM Madara is than Rinnegan ObitoWhile we know Six Paths Madara > Juubito, I never bought the argument that he is some how “MASSIVELY” stronger since he got Kurama Nd Gyuuki. I highly doubt it’s a “massive” difference.
Y’all be treating Juubito like a step-child sometimes…
Sure but like Obito's not just gonna blatantly deny facts that he has himself recountedIdk about this one tbh, it’s hard for me to take a statement like this serious considering how common it is for villains to overestimate themselves
Considering the recent Narratives on the Wiki, SM ain’t shit…It is probably massive cause of how much stronger Rinnegan SM Madara is than Rinnegan Obito
I'm just using my personal views on the scaling, although by wiki stats Rinnegan SM Madara is tens of thousands of times stronger than Rinnegan ObitoConsidering the recent Narratives on the Wiki, SM ain’t shit…
True but his stats would still need to be somewhat relative for that to really matterYeah, but that’s because JJ’s kryptonite is NE. SM Naruto blew Obito’s back out with a standard Rasengan.
Eh I guess so. Not like I’m completely against him scaling that high or anything, it’s just that the arguments are a bit shaky imoSure but like Obito's not just gonna blatantly deny facts that he has himself recounted
Sure I'd call it likely rather than definitive.True but his stats would still need to be somewhat relative for that to really matter
Eh I guess so. Not like I’m completely against him scaling that high or anything, it’s just that the arguments are a bit shaky imo
SM Naruto damaging him with a standard Rasengan disproves that. He’s nowhere near as strong as his BM variant LET ALONE Base Madara/Hashirama and SM Hashirama, etc.True but his stats would still need to be somewhat relative for that to really matter
English Dub or Sub?Tobi being a major player is both surprising and expected. But what caught my ass off guard was the change in this man’s voice
DubEnglish Dub or Sub?
"It's just as I expected"Tobi being a major player is both surprising and expected. But what caught my ass off guard was the change in this man’s voice
Until he takes off the mask… Don’t get me started on Madara and Hashirama’s English Voices…Dub Tobi's voice is great
The switch up between goofy and serious is just perfect
Ur bordering on spoily territoryUntil he takes off the mask… Don’t get me started on Madara and Hashirama’s English Voices…
Nah, I’m not gonna spoil that for him. Btw, did you see my post before that one?Ur bordering on spoily territory
Didn’t he get teleported by Minato or some shit though? I honestly gotta reread the war arc, so much happenedSM Naruto damaging him with a standard Rasengan disproves that. He’s nowhere near as strong as his BM variant LET ALONE Base Madara/Hashirama and SM Hashirama, etc.
Which?Nah, I’m not gonna spoil that for him. Btw, did you see my post before that one?
Tobirama, but I don't see how that changes its power?Didn’t he get teleported by Minato or some shit though? I honestly gotta reread the war arc, so much happened
@MinatoSparkleShouldn’t Juubito be at least 393Tt, “Likely Higher” given the 4 Biju Bombs he casually created and his Barrier / TSB Tanked?
I’m talking about having the speed to even tag him in the first placeTobirama, but I don't see how that changes its power?
2 wordsWhy do I have a feeling jiraiya an’t coming back from the village hidden in the rain?