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The two tails is a low smaller then I expected
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
MinatoSparkle
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Maybe not obviously but it is still having an effect. Just look at Kisame and his clone, who still had a ton of chakra but was weaker all the same.
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Well ya because they started out way weaker then the original seeing as kisame was already using up a chunk of chakra for the ritual and he only gave them like 30% of his chakra in the first place
MinatoSparkle
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Not sure what him using chakra for the ritual matters when that's completely separated from the chunk of chakra used to form the clone? And my whole point is that having less of your overall chakra volume makes you weaker.
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I like this, this would have been great
Or even if "That Jutsu" was referring to his incomplete Rasenshuriken ( the one he used against Kakuzu )
Simply due to the fact it was too destructive to use around allies and still hadn't mastered it to the point of throwing it yet because it would **** up his arm as later learn and possibly destroy his chakra network and he only has one shot to use it against an Akatsuki member via surprise attack and if he misses...he's ******
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Because the clone starts out weaker and has less reserves. I know I agree but what I’m saying is it doesn’t really matter when you have a lot of reserves
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Also Naruto spamming thousands of clones at once back in Part 1 were only in scenes when
A. He had a "mental amp" so to speak as he was in the zone of "protecting those close to him" ( Iruka/Sakura/Sasuke )
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B. Revved up on Kurama's chakra ( such as against Kimimaro )
Without either of those he could only do some 2 or 3 dozen at max capacity
It was only after the timeskip when he was shown being able to spam that many at will during his RS training ( making like tens of thousands - lowballing tbh - of clones for each leaf on that tree )
A. He had a "mental amp" so to speak as he was in the zone of "protecting those close to him" ( Iruka/Sakura/Sasuke )
or
B. Revved up on Kurama's chakra ( such as against Kimimaro )
Without either of those he could only do some 2 or 3 dozen at max capacity
It was only after the timeskip when he was shown being able to spam that many at will during his RS training ( making like tens of thousands - lowballing tbh - of clones for each leaf on that tree )
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He wipes out like a dozen casually on the rooftop while fighting sauske and he never struggled making more then 2 or 3 when not having a “mental amp” if anything this seems like PIS
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I literally just said he could use up to several dozen
So that feat is fine
All the instances I mentioned he was amped far beyond his normal level due to his mentality or kurama
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When I said 2 or 3 I literally said 2 or 3 DOZEN
Read what I wrote bro
Read what I wrote bro
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That my bad I missed the “dozen” when reading
Regardless that doesn’t really change what I said about him struggling to make less then a thousand
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I don't think he had mental amp against orochimaro snake. The clones he made were more than 3 or 4 dozen
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Hi guys. Where can I find a list of all moon to planetary feats in Naruto?
Apollonir.Scale
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It's in the calculations section on the universe page.
Naruto (Verse)
For detailed information about the series, see the Naruto Wiki The plot follows Naruto Uzumaki, a young ninja who desires recognition from his peers and aspires to become the Hokage, the village's chief. Naruto is assigned, alongside his rival Sasuke Uchiha and a teenage crush Sakura Haruno, to...
vsbattles.fandom.com
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Thx. is there any reason why the god tiers of the verse are low 5-B at best? Something to do with ues?It's in the calculations section on the universe page.
Naruto (Verse)
For detailed information about the series, see the Naruto Wiki The plot follows Naruto Uzumaki, a young ninja who desires recognition from his peers and aspires to become the Hokage, the village's chief. Naruto is assigned, alongside his rival Sasuke Uchiha and a teenage crush Sakura Haruno, to...
Apollonir.Scale
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There used to be a calc for 5-B but it is no longer used. It was said that the reason for this was that the power used to perform chibaku tensei may not be the same as the power they use when fighting. I may be remembering wrong, but the reason was something like this. Currently, from Hagoromo's calculation, only Hagoromo gets 5-B scale and that is 5-B with Telekinesis.
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Naruto Uzumaki and Sasuke Uchiha vs Madara Uchiha: Non-Six Paths Edition [0-0-0]
This is Bijū Sage Mode Naruto and Perfect Susano'o EMS Sasuke vs Alive EMS Madara, both with the Majestic Attire activated and canonical knowledge given to both sides while the fight takes place in the Valley of the End. Naruto and Sasuke : Madara : Incon :
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Minato small CRT
Supernatural Willpower and Immense pain tolerance: (Minato had a strong will and did not stop despite parts of his body being damaged and exposed to Kurama chakra, going so far as to push Kushina back to her base form. Kurama chakra is extremely dangerous and acts as a poison, like a corrosive...
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Naruto still has Sage Mode and he should also still have the normal Six Paths Sage Mode without the Kurama Cloak too.
HelloThere1089
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I doubt this
MinatoSparkle
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Uh it kinda sounds like you're agreeing while disagreeing
HelloThere1089
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XSOULOFCINDERX
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Why? This form wasn't even connected to Kurama at all aside from the Cloak.
HelloThere1089
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Sure. But there is a theory that you need all tailed beast chakra in you to access that form. Even the base one. I normally don't believe this readily in theories that haven't been proven, but Naruto not using the base SPSM and instead opting Sage Mode to go against Code kinda hints heavily that Sage Mode is the only mode left with him. Especially when you consider the fact that Sage Mode requires you to pull in Nature energy. This is why I doubt that he still has that base SPSM.
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Nope, the whole reason Naruto had that besides Hagoromo's blessing was because he had Chakra from all 9 Bijuus. Unless Naruto still had a tiny amount of Kurama's chakra SPSM is GONE.
Baryon is so ass...
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Even if it's anime filler retcon I like how they started changing the Giant Rasengan so it actually looks bigger and Naruto doesn't need a Shadow Clone to carry it.
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SPSM has nothing to do with the Biju. It doesn’t even use their chakra (As per Databook). The Cloaked Version is a byproduct of Naruto using the Biju Chakra at Once, nothing more. Suggesting Naruto can’t use it anymore because Kurama is gone is ultimately baseless.
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If the Curse Mark is Just Orochimaru’s Chakra and also Nature Energy… does that mean, based on Kabuto’s statement, Orochimaru is “always” in a Pseudo “imperfect” SM state?
MinatoSparkle
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Wouldn't be surprised with those eye marks
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The real reason why he doesn't have it is because Boruto writers probably don't know that SPSM isn't related to Kurama but is a separate gift from Hagoromo
Kishimoto barely writes Boruto so he wouldn't correct it, he basically gave it to some of his friends to write and draw
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SPSM is a technique of Hagoromo, however, you need a tremendous amount of chakra to use it (something only gotten or inherited from bijuu/juubi/shinju). Hagoromo and his brother inherited Shinju/Juubi chakra from Kaguya. In the anime, Kaguya was pregnant when she consumed the divine fruit, or she merged with the shinju (whichever one). A normal human cannot achieve such levels of chakra on their own.
It is derived from six paths senjutsu which is originally tentails/shinju power. In the last chapter, from the scenes where Jura kicks Kawaki away, you see the markings (rinne symbol with 9 magatamas) on Jura's abdomen to confirm he is in fact using SPS. Six paths chakra is ten tails/shinju chakra, and six paths senjutsu is ten tails/shinju senjutsu. Just as the rinnegan is also from the Shinju/Juubi.
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HelloThere1089
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This could be true. But they did differentiate between SPSM and KCM during the Isshiki fight.
It could be possible that Hagoromo only gave Nard and Sauce his chakra and the seals. The SPSM only manifested in Naruto because of the existence of Biju chakra and the rinnegan manifested in Sasuke because of Uchiha chakra. That would explain away why he didn't use SPSM to save his child's life.
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Anyone have an idea who kakashi was talking about when he said there are kids younger than naruto but stronger than him in part 1?
HelloThere1089
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Peak foreshadowing by kishi
HelloThere1089
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Better than Oda fr
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Itachi
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Does Susanoo have “Limited Matter Manipulation Resistance”? Even though the TSB ate a hole in it, it did Block the spear from going forward to Naruto. Otherwise, it should’ve just went directly through Susanoo without bunching up.
