Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Yeah, and it was treated as Naruto's Ultimate Move in early Part II.

I'm not saying it should be a 10x multiplier or any of that shit obviously, just that it can scale above the Part I Vermilion Rasengan.

So it should still have the same power output difference, correct?

 

[BlastX]

Yeah

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Wild how Kid Sasuke scales above P2 MS Itachi physically

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Wild how Kid Sasuke scales above P2 MS Itachi physically

That's so stupid. Also it's probably just a really minor complaint but shouldn't Kakashi's DMS Key still mention his Mud Wall in his durability section even if it's inferior to the Susano'o?

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Naruto yet again only uses like 5 or 6 shadow clones when he could easily jump Kabuto with rasegans

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

has Naruto learned anything else during the timeskip? Cuz all I’ve seen is his giant rasegan and breaking genjustu(which didn’t even work)

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

has Naruto learned anything else during the timeskip? Cuz all I’ve seen is his giant rasegan and breaking genjustu(which didn’t even work)

Aside from better hand to hand and more control over the Kyūbi Cloaks not really.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

That's so stupid. Also it's probably just a really minor complaint but shouldn't Kakashi's DMS Key still mention his Mud Wall in his durability section even if it's inferior to the Susano'o?

Meh I suppose

Naruto yet again only uses like 5 or 6 shadow clones when he could easily jump Kabuto with rasegans

He tried that

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

He tried that

not what I’m talking about

Aside from better hand to hand and more control over the Kyūbi Cloaks not really.

Well that sucks

 

[MinatoSparkle]

not what I’m talking about

Uhhhhh really don't think he has enough chakra to do that many Rasengans

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Uhhhhh really don't think he has enough chakra to do that many Rasengans

Not yet anyways.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Uhhhhh really don't think he has enough chakra to do that many Rasengans

I don’t see why not, he can wipe out that number of shadow clones casully while be extremely wasteful. And even if he couldn’t equip them all with rasengans, a 2k barrage would be more then enough to cook kabuto

 

[BlastX]

has Naruto learned anything else during the timeskip? Cuz all I’ve seen is his giant rasegan and breaking genjustu(which didn’t even work)

There's one person who explained this better but the reason why Naruto seems so lacking at the beginning of Shippuden is because Jiraiya basically had to train him from scratch since he was very awfully trained (since...you know...he didn't have parents or family to teach him shit) while Sakura had much better chakra control and the fact she was so weak in Part I makes her growth in Part II feel way more impactful, I also don't know if you reached Sasuke but that has it's explanations too.

Like, after this Naruto trains again in Shippuden and he has a much bigger power growth than before since Jiraiya already laid the foundations for it.

 

[BlastX]

Also Jiraiya focused a wee bit too much in trying to master the Nine Tails power for Naruto, which wasn't a very good idea so a lot of his training went to waste too.

 

[Daoist_Pepe]

I don’t see why not, he can wipe out that number of shadow clones casully while be extremely wasteful. And even if he couldn’t equip them all with rasengans, a 2k barrage would be more then enough to cook kabuto

iirc the only reason he could produce a thousand clones was because he had mental/resolve amp plus he only does that on two occasions in P1(protecting iruka from mizuki and protecting sakura/sasuke from gaara) Thousand shadow clones is not something he can do normally.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

There's one person who explained this better but the reason why Naruto seems so lacking at the beginning of Shippuden is because Jiraiya basically had to train him from scratch since he was very awfully trained (since...you know...he didn't have parents or family to teach him shit) while Sakura had much better chakra control and the fact she was so weak in Part I makes her growth in Part II feel way more impactful, I also don't know if you reached Sasuke but that has it's explanations too.

Like, after this Naruto trains again in Shippuden and he has a much bigger power growth than before since Jiraiya already laid the foundations for it.

But naruto already had good chakra control be the end of part 1, he already mastered walking on water thanks to jiraiya and ebisu

iirc the only reason he could produce a thousand clones was because he had mental/resolve amp plus he only does that on two occasions in P1(protecting iruka from mizuki and protecting sakura/sasuke from gaara) Thousand shadow clones is not something he can do normally.

He literally wipes it out casually when fighting sasuke on the rooftop

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Also Jiraiya focused a wee bit too much in trying to master the Nine Tails power for Naruto, which wasn't a very good idea so a lot of his training went to waste too.

I guess that’s fair if that was the main focus of there training

 

[BlastX]

Also, instant clone spam isn't an auto win button, not only is it a waste of chakra but also the clones get dispelled with one hit, which a lot of enemies have ways of getting rid of them quickly.

 

[BlastX]

But naruto already had good chakra control be the end of part 1, he already mastered walking on water thanks to jiraiya and ebisu


He literally wipes it out casually when fighting sasuke on the rooftop

Walking on water is basic shit, Naruto's chakra control isn't the best and infact we see as the series goes on that it keeps getting better and better.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Also, instant clone spam isn't an auto win button, not only is it a waste of chakra but also the clones get dispelled with one hit, which a lot of enemies have ways of getting rid of them quickly.

That depends on plot and the enemy and kabuto an’t that good. Naruto has insane chakra reserves so it doesn’t matter especially since his gotten way better chakra control so his nowhere near as wasteful

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Walking on water is basic shit, Naruto's chakra control isn't the best and infact we see as the series goes on that it keeps getting better and better.

Dosen’t matter if it basic, the fact his far less wasteful then before is a massive improvement. Especially even when he was wasteful he could still wipe out an army of shadow clones without breaking a sweat

 

[MinatoSparkle]

I don’t see why not, he can wipe out that number of shadow clones casully while be extremely wasteful. And even if he couldn’t equip them all with rasengans, a 2k barrage would be more then enough to cook kabuto

Can't do that normally, and the more clones you make, the weaker each one is since it's literally splitting your chakra

He literally wipes it out casually when fighting sasuke on the rooftop

It's only a couple dozen

That depends on plot and the enemy and kabuto an’t that good. Naruto has insane chakra reserves so it doesn’t matter especially since his gotten way better chakra control so his nowhere near as wasteful

Kabuto's Kakashi level, he's absolutely that good.

 

[Daoist_Pepe]

Sparkle has already relayed what I was going to say. I even got my scans ready just for sparkle to have already replied, lol.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Can't do that normally, and the more clones you make, the weaker each one is since it's literally splitting your chakra

Dosen’t matter when you have inhuman amount to pool from

It's only a couple dozen

Still way more then what he usually wipes out

Kabuto's Kakashi level, he's absolutely that good.

true, kinda forgot about that.

 

[Daoist_Pepe]

Part 1 Naruto was peak!!!

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

has Naruto learned anything else during the timeskip? Cuz all I’ve seen is his giant rasegan and breaking genjustu(which didn’t even work)

Naruto’s Training w/ Jiraiya served to do a few things:

1. Trained his Taijutsu
2. Trained his Tactics & Timing
3. Trained his Chakra Control (Thus the Giant Rasengan/Genjutsu Dispelling)
4. Trained to Bring out and Control Kyuubi Chakra (Kn0-Kn3)

This is to the point, Naruto is able to fight Kakashi to evaluate him as being > Part 1 Lee and Sasuke.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Dosen’t matter when you have inhuman amount to pool from

It still weakens you to have less chakra even if you already have a lot.

Still way more then what he usually wipes out

Sure just saying I don't think that amount is a big issue

true, kinda forgot about that.

Kabuto underrated af

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Hold that thought

Spoiler

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Technically since he doesn't have the Kekkei Genkai (the Uchiha bloodline) combined with the MS, he doesn't count

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

It still weakens you to have less chakra even if you already have a lot.

Not by much or any depending on your move set

Sure just saying I don't think that amount is a big issue

Neither amounts are

Kabuto underrated af

I guess

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Part 1 Kimimaro vs BoShippuden Kn0 Naruto. Is Kimimaro still taking this?

Drops Gamabunta on his skull

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Not by much or any depending on your move set

No matter how much chakra you have, more chakra is still gonna make you stronger even if you're not using it all at once. Just more chakra flowing through your body to amp your stats is gonna make you stronger. That's why 3 Tails Naruto is stronger than 1 Tail Naruto for example.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

No matter how much chakra you have, more chakra is still gonna make you stronger even if you're not using it all at once. Just more chakra flowing through your body to amp your stats is gonna make you stronger. That's why 3 Tails Naruto is stronger than 1 Tail Naruto for example.

Eh not really, depends on what techniques you use to enhance yourself. Naruto has way more chakra then Sakura yet she is way stronger then him taijustu wise

 

[Padaruyos]

In an alternate universe Naruto pulls up back to Konoha with Sage Mode on his belt.

 

[Shadyboi0]

In an alternate universe Naruto pulls up back to Konoha with Sage Mode on his belt.

This or Rasenshuriken, and it'd be peak

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

In an alternate universe Naruto pulls up back to Konoha with Sage Mode on his belt.

It would’ve been awesome if SM was “That Jutsu” and Jiraiya told him not to use it bc he couldn’t get it off in Combat fast enough against Akatsuki level threats and it was imperfect and the pain arc training was for him to “Perfect” SM.

 

[BlastX]

In an alternate universe Naruto pulls up back to Konoha with Sage Mode on his belt.

Funny enough in a Infinite Tsukuyomi filler arc that's actually the case.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

I’m at the part we’re Kakashi is training and I’m a bit curious, if Naruto’s shadow clones experience stack couldn’t he make an even amount of clones, split them up and have one half train and the other chill so when he releases justu his not as fatigued?

 

[BlastX]

I’m at the part we’re Kakashi is training and I’m a bit curious, if Naruto’s shadow clones experience stack couldn’t he make an even amount of clones, split them up and have one half train and the other chill so when he releases justu his not as fatigued?

I don't think it works like that, like the problem is he's getting different memories all at once, that would screw over with your head regardless of what they're doing.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

I don't think it works like that, like the problem is he's getting different memories all at once, that would screw over with your head regardless of what they're doing.

I thought it was the collective mental fatigue that got him messed up

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Eh not really, depends on what techniques you use to enhance yourself. Naruto has way more chakra then Sakura yet she is way stronger then him taijustu wise

I'm not saying having more chakra than someone else automatically makes you stronger than them, chakra control is obviously a factor, but personally you're never gonna be as strong when you're at 10% chakra as you are when you're at 100% chakra (without external factors like mental amps).