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No. Even without UES, chakra increase has never been outright stated to increase speed proportionally.
ah okay
Yes. And even if they were, we wouldn't get to MFTL.
weren't there feats of some otsutsuki traveling through space and hagoromo hiding some polar particles in some constellation? wouldn't that be MFTL or are they not accepted?
Not really when you consider that dbz isn't Naruto. Different power systems are defined differently.
no I mean like it has the same exact multipliers, just super saiyan and kaioken but it still reaches these ridiculous levels of speed plus the ssj2 and ssj3 multipliers dont seem to be accepted just like naruto
 
Because we know those multipliers affect speed too the same way, and for your information SSJ2 and SSJ3 Multipliers have been accepted recently.
 
weren't there feats of some otsutsuki traveling through space
Yes but it required heavy assumptions about timeframes and teleportation. Also travel speed doesn't automatically scale to combat speed.
and hagoromo hiding some polar particles in some constellation? wouldn't that be MFTL or are they not accepted?
This iirc was a misinterpretation. He hid them in a lake.
no I mean like it has the same exact multipliers, just super saiyan and kaioken but it still reaches these ridiculous levels of speed plus the ssj2 and ssj3 multipliers dont seem to be accepted just like naruto
Kaioken is stated to increase speed. And Super saiyan is accepted as a speed multiplier. Best to ask in DBZ general thread as to why. Both of these powerups have nothing to do with Sage mode, KCM, SPSM, etc which do not have any multiplier statements at all. DBZ would be MFTL+ even without multipliers iirc.
 
Yes but it required heavy assumptions about timeframes and teleportation. Also travel speed doesn't automatically scale to combat speed.
but the current profiles dont make that distinction so I thought it would in Naruto
This iirc was misinterpretation. He hid them in a lake.
oh okay
Kaioken is stated to increase speed. And Super saiyan is accepted as a speed multiplier. Best to ask in DBZ general thread as to why. Both of these powerups have nothing to do with Sage mode, KCM, SPSM, etc which do not have any multiplier statements at all. DBZ would be MFTL+ even without multipliers iirc.
do they have feats like that? Been a while since I watched dbz
 
do they have feats like that? Been a while since I watched dbz
You mentioned sextillion times ftl so I meant to say the DB verse would be MFTL+ even without the multipliers. DBZ specifically might not. But if you're wondering how the verse can scale to MFTL+ without multipliers then:




You don't reach sextillion using just 50x and 10x multipliers. Sextillion is a very high number.
 
You mentioned sextillion times ftl so I meant to say the DB verse would be MFTL+ even without the multipliers. DBZ specifically might not. But if you're wondering how the verse can scale to MFTL+ without multipliers then:




You don't reach sextillion using just 50x and 10x multipliers. Sextillion is a very high number.
damn, that's fast af. is there any version or canon of naruto that can reach this kind of speed? anime, movies or maybe games??
 
damn, that's fast af. is there any version or canon of naruto that can reach this kind of speed? anime, movies or maybe games??
Only thing I can think of rn is the Hagoromo Storm game calc. That is the closest thing to DBS levels of speed, but even that would only scale to game Naruto if accepted because it is a game original story. Honestly the Naruto verse probably is way faster than light by now, but because the author refuses to give us feats and statements, we can't put a number on it.
 
Only thing I can think of rn is the Hagoromo Storm game calc. That is the closest thing to DBS levels of speed, but even that would only scale to game Naruto if accepted because it is a game original story. Honestly the Naruto verse probably is way faster than light by now, but because the author refuses to give us feats and statements, we can't put a number on it.
any idea of how fast it could be? sextillions? higher?
 
Well hello there
Little did he know, he jinxed himself already.
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dang. I'm guessing this means naruto competing with dbz isnt gonna happen anytime soon?
Probably not, unless Boruto has an insane power creep at it's end like Shippuden did. But I wouldn't recommend you have any hopes for that. Boruto has drastically scaled down fights and is focusing more on taijutsu. And even though they introduced aliens, they still keep the series Earthbound. It's more likely that it's gonna stay that way.
 
Probably not, unless Boruto has an insane power creep at it's end like Shippuden did. But I wouldn't recommend you have any hopes for that. Boruto has drastically scaled down fights and is focusing more on taijutsu. And even though they introduced aliens, they still keep the series Earthbound. It's more likely that it's gonna stay that way.
I've heard this a lot but is there any particular reason?
 
I've heard this a lot but is there any particular reason?
Kishimoto felt like the series strayed away from the ninja theme a bit too much by the end of Shippuden. That mixed with his weird obsession of making Ikemoto's job the easiest job in the manga industry. But the latter part is my opinion.
 
Kishimoto felt like the series strayed away from the ninja theme a bit too much by the end of Shippuden. That mixed with his weird obsession of making Ikemoto's job the easiest job in the manga industry. But the latter part is my opinion.
i mean tbf the first chapter of the series introduced us to a giant fox with 9 tails that can accidentally shatter mountains so idk if ninjas were a theme for the series to begin with
 
Well I should clarify, the storm Hagoromo profile is good on the surface because it’s a copy paste of Slayer’s masterpiece of a profile with like a few minor “copy my HW but don’t make it too obvious” changes. The storm Hagoromo profile on the other hand sucks cuz it’s a lazy attempt to get high tiered Naruto.

Realistically tho, with work and all, it would probably be years before I touched these profiles, and who knows maybe Wrath and Shadow will have fixed them by then.
 
After looking at previous threads it looks like the verse went from 5-A and FTL+ to 5-C/low 5-B and barely FTL. damn the supporters musta felt terrible
 
Well I should clarify, the storm Hagoromo profile is good on the surface because it’s a copy paste of Slayer’s masterpiece of a profile with like a few minor “copy my HW but don’t make it too obvious” changes. The storm Hagoromo profile on the other hand sucks cuz it’s a lazy attempt to get high tiered Naruto.
i mean whats wrong with indexing a character? clearly he's different enough to warrant a profile of his own so I dont see the issue tbh
 
I mean come on he's not just gonna keep throwing out useless "he's so much stronger/faster" statements all the time and will eventually give some feats right??
I don't really expect to see any light beams or abilities of the sort

Ikemoto seems to be going more towards hax rather than shit like speed (I.E Daemon, Ada, Code). Like im not expecting the Shinju to shoot out light beams or some shit lol thatd be cool but Hella random
 
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