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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
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Fate and Causality Manipulation for the GOAT
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KaydeeX
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Bro gave him two extra whiskers to match Naruto's
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Look, I know it’s not “impressive” for Base Boruto to physically contend with SM Mitsuki because of scaling, but it is still pretty exciting and badass to see on a personal level, you know?
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Mitsuki about to join the "We can clown on Code level fighters" squad
MinatoSparkle
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HelloThere1089
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MinatoSparkle
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MinatoSparkle
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cap
I never watched that
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So like, how do we scale Shibai based on the current information we have?
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Unquantifiably far higher than Isshiki, since becoming an existence like Shibai is literally Isshiki's end goal. This is the bare minimum for now.
MinatoSparkle
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He 4-D
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Shibai being 4-D is still too vague to use I think, at least in terms of attack potency, and I don't think being 4-D is equivalent to Low 2-C either
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Without actual showings/more concrete statements, it'd be much harder to assign him anything higher. Maybe one can argue 4-C given the ETSB's existence, but really there are no super solid options at the moment.
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I think the at absolute minimum for him is far stronger than Kaguya's maximum output considering Kaguya, Momoshiki, and Isshiki are all like baby Otsutsuki in comparison to him.
Like you can argue Kaguya is stronger than Isshiki and Momoshiki because she was unquantifiably weaker than Isshiki originally, then she one-upped him by eating another Chakra Fruit, merging with the Shinju, and so on. But Shibai is like the pinnicle existence of what any Otsutsuki could ever be, so Kaguya eating a single Chakra Fruit really shouldn't compare in the slightest.
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No, look, I agree. I think Shibai should be the highest thing in the verse by far until further notice. But who knows what'll get accepted. I guess we'll see when we try to get his profile made a second time.
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Did Kishimoto “really” draw this? I never saw confirmation…
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Possibly low2c with omnipotence. Wait someone tried to make his profile before?
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Base Shippuden Naruto Physical Feats/Implications (In Order)
BEGINNING OF SHIPPUDEN
1.) Implied to have fought Kakashi h2h good enough to access his Taijutsu against others.
2.) Intercepts and matches Chiyo’s Taijutsu (Lol)
3.) Fast enough to surprise Deidara, although Deidara wasn’t focusing on him at the time.
4.) Attacks Sai.
5.) Deemed good enough to Team with Sai in a two man pair based on their files by Yamato (Note: Danzou Considers Naruto and Sai to be strongest of their Gen, and Naruto’s file was likely updated after the Kakashi sparring ordered by Tsunade). Spars with Yamato that next morning and is easily able to dodge Yamato’s counter attack.
6.) Fought Orochimaru Off Screen in base.
7.) Initiated Taijutsu Against Kabuto.
8.) Tanked a Kick from Obito (Not Serious)
POST SAGE MODE TRAINING
1.) Briefly fought Pain in h2h, holding his own.
2.) Tanked a desperate ST from Pain (Note: Nagato believed he was still strong enough control SM Naruto after the fight with Deva, but Kn0 stacking ontop ruined that plan).
3.) Fast enough to surprise Sai by taking his weapon and Easily caught Karui’s sword swing and out skilled her.
4.) Fast enough to Blitz from off-screen and Save Sakura from a Point Blank Base Sasuke Counter before Kakashi could reach Sasuke (Note: Sasuke wasn’t at 100% and Kakashi hadn’t fully rebounded from MS usage).
5.) While Poisoned, matched Sasuke’s Chidori and tanked the resulting blast from their Clash.
6.) Dodged Son Goku’s Attack.
7.) Could fight Juubi spawns of the same class that Sakura couldn’t hurt.
8.) Ran up the God-Tree Fast
BEGINNING OF SHIPPUDEN
1.) Implied to have fought Kakashi h2h good enough to access his Taijutsu against others.
2.) Intercepts and matches Chiyo’s Taijutsu (Lol)
3.) Fast enough to surprise Deidara, although Deidara wasn’t focusing on him at the time.
4.) Attacks Sai.
5.) Deemed good enough to Team with Sai in a two man pair based on their files by Yamato (Note: Danzou Considers Naruto and Sai to be strongest of their Gen, and Naruto’s file was likely updated after the Kakashi sparring ordered by Tsunade). Spars with Yamato that next morning and is easily able to dodge Yamato’s counter attack.
6.) Fought Orochimaru Off Screen in base.
7.) Initiated Taijutsu Against Kabuto.
8.) Tanked a Kick from Obito (Not Serious)
POST SAGE MODE TRAINING
1.) Briefly fought Pain in h2h, holding his own.
2.) Tanked a desperate ST from Pain (Note: Nagato believed he was still strong enough control SM Naruto after the fight with Deva, but Kn0 stacking ontop ruined that plan).
3.) Fast enough to surprise Sai by taking his weapon and Easily caught Karui’s sword swing and out skilled her.
4.) Fast enough to Blitz from off-screen and Save Sakura from a Point Blank Base Sasuke Counter before Kakashi could reach Sasuke (Note: Sasuke wasn’t at 100% and Kakashi hadn’t fully rebounded from MS usage).
5.) While Poisoned, matched Sasuke’s Chidori and tanked the resulting blast from their Clash.
6.) Dodged Son Goku’s Attack.
7.) Could fight Juubi spawns of the same class that Sakura couldn’t hurt.
8.) Ran up the God-Tree Fast
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Uh...cool if random?
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MFTL+
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I mean if we're going by statements didn't momoshiki say omnipotence in the hands of otsusuki gods are used to create worlds?
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That statement is not very good evidence for Low 2-C without further context. We know nothing about these "worlds" ATM. They could be planets, pocket dimensions, universes, we just have no idea as of right now. The distant possibility that it could be universes isn't enough evidence to warrant a Low 2-C rating, even a Possibly one.
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Honestly considering otsusuki themselves create dimensions I see no reason to why momoshiki would think it impressive if it was not on a grand scale. I definitely don't think it is planet. I mean eida using it half hazardous already has interdimensional range with it.
All in all I feel like creating planets or dimensions are feats normal otsusuki can already do. So absolutely no reason for momo to hype it up like that if it was something of that level.
But yeah true no much evidence is there . It's just a statement
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So I actually went back and re read the chapter for better understanding. He didn't say create worlds. He said "God used it to create the world" in that context it can't be planet or just a dimension. He is including both his race and every other race in context of world. So he is reffering to the universe at large
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Naruto Planet Size
vsbattles.fandom.com
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It looks like a staff approved itNaruto Planet Size
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This doesn’t affect Boruto shaking the Planet?! Idk how OP is getting Wild Values but Boruto can’t.Naruto Planet Size
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I've got a question regarding one of Sasuke's abilities; his sleep manipulation. Since his sharingan ability to put people to sleep falls under genjutsu, which are illusionary techniques, would someone who has good resistance to illusions, but has no resistance to sleep manip, be able to shrug it off? It's been a while since I've read the series.
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İdk,I am not the one who made the calculation, I posted it here because it was accepted.
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It depends how the resistance works.
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HelloThere1089
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Can't wait for the non-fight we're gonna get this chapter.
