MinatoSparkle
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What if ur mom is smallBut what if being literal and my brain is Physically small
What was the page number before?Oh Christ look at what the post limit per page did here, what an awful change
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
EL_xWatcher1234x
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Need some fans for Madara:https://vsbattles.com/threads/ninja-vs-kingsman.160083/
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Like 180s, now that all threads have 40 post page limits, sifting through them is going to be more than twice as time consuming
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It really doesn't. She's just objectively a new model since she's a different body. The raws also imply more than the VIZ that the change is just the allegiance shift.
木ノ葉を守る戦力として設定を変更した最新型だ・・・!
Right there in your scan it says "this is a new model ,with changes made". The conjuction "with" already implies the "new model " is independent of the re programming. To programme delta you just need that small robot thingy that follows her, not her entire body.
And code can be a bit stronger than her and she can still hurt him which he is restrained. Same way momoshiki can hurt naruto but he is weaker..
Once again please don't use ssj. It literally has a 50x canon multipliers. Karma is just an unknown boost. It's a bad example
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They are not unreliable. Some people just have anti feats. Code has none.
The tag team stuff come on bro we still use context here. Obviously he means together and not individually. And it is not only that scan. Amado also told him Code is different from delta. Literally the creator supports the claim.
Finally on this wiki Literally the ap value borushiki scales too is above Fused momo bro
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I'm not saying for sure base code is stronger than delta (he'd still be 5b regardless). But you need more evidence to restrict code being above delta to being "with karma" as opposed to just generally
MinatoSparkle
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Changes made in order for her to protect Konoha. That's the only mentioned change. There's no statements about her being enhanced nor does she show any visible upgrades.
It's the ease with which she does it that's really notable
That's just the problem. It's an unknown boost, which goes both ways. Also Code does say it's a drastic increase, and that improved physicals are a major factor in that.
Because it's the conservative estimate, and he has no actual feats in base to suggest he's that level. He probably wasn't going all out sure, but even K1 Boruto tanks an attack from Base Code with no visible damage.
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MinatoSparkle
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If he did that's even worse
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And the Literal FEATS in the Manga contradict those statements. So please stop bringing them up. They are not supported in the manga.
When literally every showing debunks those statements, yes, they arevunreliable. Not to mention those same pages have vastly faulty information in them. Like literally, you can compare them to others. The information doesn’t add up or is just blatantly contradicted.
Its funny you bring up “context” when you expressly ignore Context. There is nothing contextual about Code’s statements, period. This is bleach level wank imo. I already addressed Amado as well. If you’re going to respond, can you actually address my points? You’re dodging them.
Except he’s literally not, check the profiles. Base Momoshiki scales from his own feats. Fused Momoshiki scales from his own feats. Borushiki downscales from Fused Momoshiki. On the profile (Boruto & Momoshiki), Borushiki (80%) scales from Injured/Nerfed Sasuke and upscales from there (82% Version). Kawaki scales from Borushiki and Code is WRONGLY scaling above Delta for the reasons already stated.
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I refuse to believe that Code is stronger than Naruto or Sasuke, let alone both at once.
MinatoSparkle
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Do you mean Limited or FP?
MinatoSparkle
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Simple, yet effective
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Like I've said before all this is covered in simply saying " this is a new model".Pretty sure he dodged that, since Kawaki gave an awareness before the attack
And she does it with ease coz the guy is restrained. Code is practically defenseless in that state. Why would you even count it?
And yes it increases stats but it is an amplifier not a multipliers. Once again the comparism is wrong.
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Yeah I know but his feats are so completely horrible that I cannot see him beating anyone. He even thought that nerfed Sasuke and Naruto at once would be trouble even if he'd win.
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You literally have no points excepts statements over feats. Alright cool present me with code antifeats that suggest he is weaker than delta. Just one since coz that's what you keep repeating.
And literally that injured sasuke that borushiki scales too has higher ap value than fused momo. You're still wrong again.
They have their own feats but borushiki is higher.
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Incredulous but aight
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Yeah coz nerfed naruto and sasuke are still God tiers lol. Not to mention fighting together lol. Besides this is limiter code. How does this affect no limiter code?
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I am a firm fraudhawk believer. If you cannot give me a single feat in favor of a character's strength, and especially if they have done nothing but get smacked around by people who should be weaker than them, then I don't see them as strong.
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Can you guys please stop regurgitating this scan ? Code is literally held and cannot move by shikamaru shadow paralysis. How is he supposed to defend himself? Also this is an upgraded delta.I am a firm fraudhawk believer. If you cannot give me a single feat in favor of a character's strength, and especially if they have done nothing but get smacked around by people who should be weaker than them, then I don't see them as strong.
All I see here is just coping. Oh no people are stronger than my supreme king naruto and my goat sasuke. Madara coping all over again
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I forgot since it's been a while since I read the final pre ts arc but did Code even know Naruto and Sasuke were nerfed when he made that statement?
Now I am not saying he necessarily beats their pre nerfed states just making sure he even knew they were nerfed in the first place is all
Now I am not saying he necessarily beats their pre nerfed states just making sure he even knew they were nerfed in the first place is all
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He probably did from eida.
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Question: why is regeneration absent from momoshiki and borushiki profile page? Or is it something someone forgot to add?
MinatoSparkle
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Which is just repeating something I've already responded to
Because it shows her casual AP>his durability, which his own AP scales to or below. It's also interesting that Code had no surprise about how strong Delta's kick were, as if it was expected.
I don't think that's provable, but either way that's missing the point. In both cases it's a significant boost to power that exists as a part of the character's arsenal that they can access at any time, and there's no reason to assume statements about someone's strength isn't a holistic representation of their arsenal, including techniques that increase their combat ability. If if I was right that Karma Code>Delta>Base Code, wouldn't the statements still be true?
It's not that clear, as I don't think Eida had told him at that point, but the remnants of Isshiki's soul might've seen Naruto and Sasuke getting nerfed and told Code about it. Or it's just an author insert statement along the lines of Hashirama knowing Adult Tsunade's strength. And even a while after this when I'm pretty sure Code would've been told about the nerfs, he still said he could only probably beat Naruto or Sasuke 1 on 1, and Amado implied SPSM Naruto could've beaten Code.
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He gets stomped by Daemon who also has the "superior to Jigen" tag
Gets stomped by Current Boruto who is an unknown quantity after years of training
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Might as well just downgrade code to 6C without the fraud allegations
Excellence616
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Shikamaru durability upgrade
This should be pretty straightforward. Basically we just scale Shikamarus AP to his durability. Shikamaru tanks a hit from Code. Code is 5-B even with his limiters on. Possible counter argument would be that this is base Code, but we see he can move even despite Shikamarus restrictions...
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Your response to it was "there wasn't any reference to her abilities improved". This goes against the definition of new model and I already explained it to you.
And once again code is held down and restrained..we know in the naruto world characters use chakra for everything including durability. So code not being able to move would definitely reduce his ability to guard himself.
I find it funny you just helped my point. The fact that code that had been with Delta all these years was suprised on how strong her kick was definitely suggests that she had been upgraded.
And code can be stronger than delta but can still get damaged by her If he doesn't guard himself. It just means delta is very much relative to him.
And for your last point yes the statement would still hold true. I'm just telling you there is no evidence for neither. Either way Base Code would still at the very least downscale even if he isn't superior to her. But still it is just a matter of equal interpretation. You can take the statement as only at full power with karma active is he superior to Delta or you can take it as in general he's superior.
Let me throw this question at you. Amado statement of code combat ability exceeding jigen would you say nl code is only above jigen while he is using karma or nl code with or without karma would still be superior to jigen? Coz it is the same kind of statement again.
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Can Momoshiki gain the fraud status?
- Got tagged by the Kage
- Lost to Nard & Sauce even while fused
- Got outsmarted and tagged by Burrito
- Had to use his own power to revive Burrito
- Kept giggling about some "prophecy" like a kid and was then humiliated by Burrito not even giving a f*ck about said prophecy
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almost all of these have no buisness being on this list imo
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Care to elaborate
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