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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

Testarossa002 said:
Worst part is, it wouldn't even contradict anything if we're going strictly with manga.

I'd rather they just keep blitzing each other or have a travel speed feat
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Urashiki already does which, according to my own conservative calcs, is around 4.03C

Ngl it is kinda disappointing there are hardly any notable FTL feats. DBZ reached MFTL+ levels at the very start of Namek saga IIRC.
 
Naruto fans cooking up convoluted calcs only to bump the speed up by 0.1c
heisenberg-chemicals.jpg
 
SlendVeny said:
It was end of frieza saga
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MFTL+ spaceship, Goku reacts and even fires a Kamehameha that propels the ship back at the same speed, away from the gravitational pull of a star. Why isn't it on the profile you asked? Even the lowest of the lowballed values were so high into MFTL+ that it was deemed an outlier.
 
MeiouHades said:
MFTL+ spaceship, Goku reacts and even fires a Kamehameha that propels the ship back at the same speed, away from the gravitational pull of a star. Why isn't it on the profile you asked? Even the lowest of the lowballed values were so high into MFTL+ that it was deemed an outlier.
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Was that in the manga?
 
MinatoSparkle said:
So if someone is said to be more than 3x stronger than someone else, would you not assume it's less than 4? There's a difference between arbitrary and common sense.
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Nope we would remain agnostic on 4x and just say they're at least 3x stronger, since 4x is simply arbitrary
 
Arbitrary: "based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system."

It's not random, as it's using a pre-existing value as a reference, and it uses reason as you're deducing why that specific number was chosen. I know if I was making some sort of numerical statement to tell the reader how much stronger or weaker someone is, I wouldn't say more than 10x if it was more than 1000x and I wouldn't say less than 1000x if it's less than 10x. And I'm pretty sure neither you nor just about anyone trying to write well would either (unless they're trying to mislead the reader rather than inform for some narrative purpose, in which case it'd be clarified or given some hint as to being wrong later).
 
MinatoSparkle said:
It's not random, as it's using a pre-existing value as a reference, and it uses reason as you're deducing why that specific number was chosen. I know if I was making some sort of numerical statement to tell the reader how much stronger or weaker someone is, I wouldn't say more than 10x if it was more than 1000x and I wouldn't say less than 1000x if it's less than 10x.
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Nah Arc is right. More than 3 times could mean 3.5 times.
 
MinatoSparkle said:
So if someone is said to be more than 3x stronger than someone else, would you not assume it's less than 4? There's a difference between arbitrary and common sense.
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Nope. Because that is not the only logical inference that can be made. What you have described is an appeal to common sense. More than 3x can be 4x, 5x etc. At the end of the day, like you said, it would be an assumption.

This is what I got from Merriam webster regarding arbitrary:
"based on or determined by individual preference or convenience rather than by necessity or the intrinsic nature of something"

This is what you described when you mentioned how you would use the "more than 10x" statement if you were the writer.
 
WellHelloThere said:
Nope. Because that is not the only logical inference that can be made. What you have described is an appeal to common sense. More than 3x can be 4x, 5x etc. At the end of the day, like you said, it would be an assumption.

This is what I got from Merriam webster regarding arbitrary:
"based on or determined by individual preference or convenience rather than by necessity or the intrinsic nature of something"

This is what you described when you mentioned how you would use the "more than 10x" statement if you were the writer.
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If being objective then yes, 4x 5x etc. are possible, but that doesn't make them likely. Assumptions aren't inherently bad if there's a good reason for them.

I also appealed to how the vast majority would do it, which others implictly agreed with, as they suggested 3.5 and 3.01 but not 4 or above
 
I know this is quite old, but were these skill parameters from the databook accepted to be used in profiles?
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Naruto Databook Skill Parameters

The Naruto databooks from the first to the third have a section for each character referred to as the Skill Parameter, showcasing the level of Ninjutsu, Taijutsu, Genjutsu, Intelligence, Strength, Speed, Stamina, and Hand Seals that each Shinobi have. The wiki currently doesn't accept stats...
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MinatoSparkle said:
If being objective then yes, 4x 5x etc. are possible, but that doesn't make them likely.
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I'll be honest with you, I inherently disagree with "likely" or "possibly" ratings. Way too shaky for my taste. But I understand that's how VSBW works. In a lot of cases, these ratings are only used to satisfy a middle ground and not for accuracy.

Assumptions aren't inherently bad if there's a good reason for them.
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I agree. But that's not the issue here. Assumptions that aren't bad are the ones that consistently show the same results.

I also appealed to how the vast majority would do it, which others implictly agreed with, as they suggested 3.5 and 3.01 but not 4 or above
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This is not true. I only suggested 3.5 as a counter because I was under the wrong impression that you were aiming for the "more than 3x = 4x" argument. The 3.01x was a joke. You are thinking too much like a VSBW user. To people who aren't concerned with power scaling or even the authors, more than 3x could mean the next whole number.
 
Aight so, Rock Lee kicks Madara in half with Kyubi cloak. Kakashi says the Kyubi cloaks are more than 3 times increase. So 4 times. Gate 1 is 5 times.
Lee>Edo Madara
 
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