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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

KingogKings777 said:
Everything. They started this villain arc and they will be the end of it.
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Nah we just follow our main characters will of making it to the top?
Upgrade threads will never stop.
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YoutubeForKing said:
Im confused as to where your getting this?

Almost everyone on the battlefield is trained in using chakra, especially the people here as they survived the first parts of the war. So please stop using the word "fodder" as if it means anything at all. True fodder would have died in the zetsu attack 😂.
They are all trained so ofc the whole verse cannot see them but these ninja who have trained for decades of there life using SPIRITUAL power should most definitely not be looked over.

Sasuke can see souls without dojutsu active.

These guys are seemingly able to see them as well. In the anime we see dozens of shinobi react to them and have CONVERSATIONS with them.

This guy here can move as a soul using NINJUTSU, further proving ninjutsu and spirutal energy connection.

Also obito and dan as SOULS can enter and interact with the mind of other people and give them chakra resulting in buffs and stamina gain.

I just feel as tho the fact that souls are immediately being dragged to the pure lands and are not able to linger like in many other shonen anime this makes it very obscure on the topic of souls in Naruto.

There are multiple other verses besides bleach who use souls as their main form of combat and considering this is a fighting wiki I think naruto characters should have this.

Heck on the subject of bleach. Just as they have the soul reaper, quincy and hollow physiology page.
Are we allowed to make one for naruto?
One for Otsosuki, Jinjurichi, Sensory Type Ninja, Dojutsu users and Jonin Level Ninja. With ofc different advancements/levels on them??
Just so its easier to give the right abilities to characters without doing too much work on pages.

For instance almost everyone in the verse who uses ninjutsu should be given nonphysical interaction via ninjutsu
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what chapter did u get the scans for dan
 
YoutubeForKing said:
Also the susanoo is accepted on this site as being able to interact with souls due to the fact that they are physical manifestations of chakra.
Shouldn't this also be the case for ninjutsu, which are simply amplified versions of chakra??

What are your opinions on this @KingogKings777 and @Reio35 since you two seem to disagree with this.
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Well that doesn't makes sense chakra isn't even accepted as soul on this site. If their going with that logic then yes most ninjustu are should be soul since they are chakra embodiments.

When naruto was getting soul ripped he implied it's different from his chakra.
 
Reio35 said:
When naruto was getting soul ripped he implied it's different from his chakra.
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You dont seem to understand

Chakra =/= soul
Chakra = Spiritual Energy

Its like in bleach how

Reiryoku =/= soul
Reiryoku = Spiritual Energy.

Both allow combat with souls but are not the users actual soul itself.
 
Godernet said:
I'm down to help work on a shinobi physiology page soon along with jinchuriki and otsutsuki. It seems very needed and could help clear some misconceptions.
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Stryker861 said:
This seems cool. Im also willing to help if any is needed with that
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I will message you two in a group dm.
I will do this friday in the meantime i will actually learn how to do make said pages 💀
 
Trihexa102 said:
Nah you are missing my point,1000 years ago kaguya was complete meaning no piece of the tailed beast was missing and she casted infinite Tsukuyomi ( Meaning she could still draw energy(don't think there was chakra then) from everyone sealed in the infinite tsukuyomi ) , but The kaguya in the war arc isn’t complete plus the chakra she gets from absorbing the chakra from Infinite tsukuyomi is not comparable to her prime version 1000 years ago. Basically my point is if her base chakra from being complete(prime state) is 100 and the Energy she gets from IF is a multiplier of x2 , while the war arc version is incomplete and has a base of 80 and the chakra she gets from IF is also a multiplier of x2 , Then obviously the prime version is stronger cause she has a stronger starting base by being complete and also being able to tap into the Chakra increase from IF(assuming the amount of energy is the same in both era's).
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No offense but this logic doesn’t work here. For starters, let’s address the IT Chakra Aspect of this:

  1. Chakra already existed on the planet, which was the entire point of Isshiki and Kaguya coming to Naruto’s Earth to plant the Shinju.

  2. The Chakra Kaguya could pull from IT 1000 Years prior is VASTLY inferior to her gains from the War Arc. Outside of Hagoromo & Hamura, chakra wasn’t weaponized and used by the populace. Hagoromo didn’t create Ninshuu until after Kaguya and Ninjutsu wasn’t invented until well after. The Databook specifically states she pulled Chakra from SHINOBI trapped in IT. The average Shinobi’s Chakra Volume as well the strength of their Chakra is VASTLY superior to that of the average Non-Ninja Civilian.

  3. The IT Chakra she absorbed in the War Arc is LITERALLY stated to be stronger than the Ten-Tails Naruto knows.
So, while Kaguya’s had a 100% Juubi 1000 years prior, War Arc Kaguya was still superior (Full Biju 1 - 8 / 50% Kurama + IT Chakra Stated to be Stronger Than Incomplete Juubi (Full Biju 1 - 7 / Fractions of Gyuuki & Kurama’s Chakra) + 100% Madara w/ Hashirama’s SM).

Kaguya is simply significantly more powerful than when she fought Hagoromo and Hamura… and right before she’s sealed, she absorbs even MORE IT Chakra and is states to be Significantly stronger then when she was revived (Which also means the Biju after her chakra was split again are also significantly stronger than before).
 
Pretty sure Dan just simply blitzed them, not that they couldn’t see his spirit when even Choza and Fodder could.
 
TFO said:
Pretty sure Dan just simply blitzed them, not that they couldn’t see his spirit when even Choza and Fodder could.
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Its literally stated he can go anywhere regardless of distance and regardless of the targets cordinates.

He has the fastest travel speed in verse outside of straight-up teleportation 😭
 
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No offense but this logic doesn’t work here. For starters, let’s address the IT Chakra Aspect of this:

  1. Chakra already existed on the planet, which was the entire point of Isshiki and Kaguya coming to Naruto’s Earth to plant the Shinju.

  2. The Chakra Kaguya could pull from IT 1000 Years prior is VASTLY inferior to her gains from the War Arc. Outside of Hagoromo & Hamura, chakra wasn’t weaponized and used by the populace. Hagoromo didn’t create Ninshuu until after Kaguya and Ninjutsu wasn’t invented until well after. The Databook specifically states she pulled Chakra from SHINOBI trapped in IT. The average Shinobi’s Chakra Volume as well the strength of their Chakra is VASTLY superior to that of the average Non-Ninja Civilian.

  3. The IT Chakra she absorbed in the War Arc is LITERALLY stated to be stronger than the Ten-Tails Naruto knows.
So, while Kaguya’s had a 100% Juubi 1000 years prior, War Arc Kaguya was still superior (Full Biju 1 - 8 / 50% Kurama + IT Chakra Stated to be Stronger Than Incomplete Juubi (Full Biju 1 - 7 / Fractions of Gyuuki & Kurama’s Chakra) + 100% Madara w/ Hashirama’s SM).

Kaguya is simply significantly more powerful than when she fought Hagoromo and Hamura… and right before she’s sealed, she absorbs even MORE IT Chakra and is states to be Significantly stronger then when she was revived (Which also means the Biju after her chakra was split again are also significantly stronger than before).
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Like I Said you don’t Understand What am trying to Explain or get at , I don’t refute what you explained. Ok Think of it like this Complete Juubi 100% is Her full power In Base ( Meaning that if she isn’t complete she still has more power she can gain from then pieces of tailed beast Like the half Kurama ) Then Think of IF as a technique That boost her powers to Unbelievable levels , First and Foremost Her base is not complete( meaning incomplete tentails ) IT boost her powers with chakra greater than the juubi that Obito used which is still inferior to a Prime juubi as that war arc juubi was not Complete , So basically My point is the war is not Kaguya’s full power either as The other half of nine tails can still further boost her powers to a greater level. when she is complete and can also Utilize the chakra from IF she would be stronger than her Imcomplete state with IF boost ( I am using the current war arc IF multiplier ) just think of it as instead of a incomplete juubi , madara managed to get the complete juubi and got betrayed , Kaguya got ress and casted IF and got the chakra boost plus her already complete juubi , she would be stronger than Her war arc version with IF buff( incomplete Juubi).
 
Is naruto capable of healing souls?
In the databooks might guy 8th gate has this statement

Finally opening the Gates of Hell! Burning the soul, an ultra-essential point that will be certain “Death”!

and this

Ultimately, whoever opens as far as the Gate of Death is even able to obtain strength that exceeds that of the Hokage. However, as the consequence [of doing so], it was said that [the user] loses one’s life [in exchange]. When released, one is covered in a vapour of red blood. That is evidence of burning the flame of life. In exchange for consumed life, valuable things are protected. It can be said that a strong-will and resignation are required for this ultimate Taijutsu.

I think this will also coincide with this statement.
Naruto who can sense life force compares losing part of his soul to losing his life force.

Is this a good way to argue Naruto with six paths being able to heal on the spirutual level, he saved guy from his soul burning away which was something even tsunade narratively could not have done.

Plus him having six paths should narratively also put him above tsunade in ever way/shape/form
 
Has the connection between will and spiritual/mental energy ever been adressed on this site?
Through madara and sasuke it seems like the stronger your will is the stronger your mental and spiritual (all the way to your core soul) is.

A dead person who has regained its willpower is connected to the Release Seal, and the summoning contract terminates.
found on these two sites as the official translation isn't out 😑
 
Recently, Chidori users had Far Higher with Chidori in their profiles.

Characters that are faster than them or comparable to them even with Chidori, won't they scale?
 
Excel616 said:
Recently, Chidori users had Far Higher with Chidori in their profiles.

Characters that are faster than them or comparable to them even with Chidori, won't they scale?
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that thread was mainly just for getting Chidori/Raikiri acknowledged as a speed amp everything else will come later since our current Part 2 speed scaling is kind of a mess.
 
Might guy a character with no dojutsu and is incapable to using ninjutsu.

Can react to and damage these sharks.

Lee has some of the worst chakra control in the verse and can do the same, anyone genin and up should be capable of doing this, hell you can argue even academy students LMFAO. He should still be above people who cant use ninjutsu/chakra tho because they never trained it, like majority of the prisoners in the sasuke retsuden story.

Also samehada is capable of absorbing chakra/ninjutsu, which should allow it to absorb souls as well.
 
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Here they are reacting to it. (The five hungry sharks and 1000 are the same spiritual bullets simply kisame using less sharks)
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Guy blows it away by simply transforming. Let alone later in the verse when he fights kisame again.
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