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I don't think that matters in this context.
You could just say it is OOC for Isshiki to use in battle, for now.
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
You could just say it is OOC for Isshiki to use in battle, for now.
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isn't obito and madara specifically stated to be able to use all the 6 path powers but do not because they use lot of chakra and their opponents know how to counter them ? That's why they have them in their profile.
No idea for sasuke.
No idea for sasuke.
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ishiki have no feats or statements for storing anything alive iirc.
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What's the specific value for the Jonin Tier?
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maybe it's higher than Jirobo et al's tier. Because Hokage 4's bodyguards who are overwhelmed from missions can still hold Jirobo et al's CS2 maybe
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IIRC he couldn't do it to living things.
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Oh he straight up said that? mb
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Shrinking was the only specific thing said.
Plus, Kawaki seemingly used a normal portal, not the instantaneous Daikokuten.
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I’m only asking because I was reading the Goku vs Eida thread, and people were saying that since it’s an ability separate from genjutsu, it doesn’t get any scaling from the layers the sharigan and other dojutsu have
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sure because the they different kinds of hax
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this is true.
but im pretty sure Eida has layered Empathetic Manipulation
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From my perspective this new use of Daikokuten makes perfect sense, he overcame the "weakness" of using it through Sukunahikona (which cannot shrink living things) and used a portal instead.
The portal can be used against living things but it's less efficient overall due to being slower (Sukunahikona shrinks almost instantly) and can also be absorbed by Karma (something it doesn't seem to be possible to do against Sukunahikona).
The portal can be used against living things but it's less efficient overall due to being slower (Sukunahikona shrinks almost instantly) and can also be absorbed by Karma (something it doesn't seem to be possible to do against Sukunahikona).
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If momoshiki really was using time stop then the rinnegan has the ability to be resistant and maybe if sasuke still had the rinnegan he could leave but we also dont know if he could use any of his powers with the time stopped we only know that he was conscious of it.
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And gives us layers of time stop resistance possibly
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Call it "limited time stop resistance" as far as i know there isnt multiple types of resistance for time manipulationAnd gives us layers of time stop resistance possibly
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Isn't this the only time stop in Boruto minus the thousand year one used on the fodder on the moon?
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We still have no ideia of what happened to Toneri but for now we have whatever happened to toneri, Momoshiki time stop and Kawaki's dimensions where time is frozen
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Kawaki in addition to being trapped, he was unable to shrink... Shadow possession can be broken if the opponent is too strong. Basically If character X is trapped and can't get out, and character Y is also trapped but can get out by force, then character Y is superior to X in strength. Shikamaru successfully trapped: Kawaki, Kurotsuchi, Chojuro, Momoshiki, Kinshiki, Code, Ada. None of them made it out by force.
However, in the novel where he trapped Kurotsuchi and Chojuro, he also trapped base Naruto, but it is mentioned that Naruto would leave easily if he used Kurama's power. Momoshiki himself trapped Naruto Base, Kages and Sasuke, but used the stakes on Naruto as extra reinforcement because he knew he would leave if he used Kurama...There's no way, the Hokage is the strongest.
However, in the novel where he trapped Kurotsuchi and Chojuro, he also trapped base Naruto, but it is mentioned that Naruto would leave easily if he used Kurama's power. Momoshiki himself trapped Naruto Base, Kages and Sasuke, but used the stakes on Naruto as extra reinforcement because he knew he would leave if he used Kurama...There's no way, the Hokage is the strongest.
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Or works like Genjutsu binding your chakra, and could only be broken by partnership method.Kawaki in addition to being trapped, he was unable to shrink... Shadow possession can be broken if the opponent is too strong. Basically If character X is trapped and can't get out, and character Y is also trapped but can get out by force, then character Y is superior to X in strength. Shikamaru successfully trapped: Kawaki, Kurotsuchi, Chojuro, Momoshiki, Kinshiki, Code, Ada. None of them made it out by force.
However, in the novel where he trapped Kurotsuchi and Chojuro, he also trapped base Naruto, but it is mentioned that Naruto would leave easily if he used Kurama's power. Momoshiki himself trapped Naruto Base, Kages and Sasuke, but used the stakes on Naruto as extra reinforcement because he knew he would leave if he used Kurama...There's no way, the Hokage is the strongest.
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Thats debatable Momoshiki is much stronger than than shikamaru so his shadow possession is much stronger.Kawaki in addition to being trapped, he was unable to shrink... Shadow possession can be broken if the opponent is too strong. Basically If character X is trapped and can't get out, and character Y is also trapped but can get out by force, then character Y is superior to X in strength. Shikamaru successfully trapped: Kawaki, Kurotsuchi, Chojuro, Momoshiki, Kinshiki, Code, Ada. None of them made it out by force.
However, in the novel where he trapped Kurotsuchi and Chojuro, he also trapped base Naruto, but it is mentioned that Naruto would leave easily if he used Kurama's power. Momoshiki himself trapped Naruto Base, Kages and Sasuke, but used the stakes on Naruto as extra reinforcement because he knew he would leave if he used Kurama...There's no way, the Hokage is the strongest.
Kawaki was also being stopped by mitsuki dont think its that easy
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thats more like a time seal.
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Hokage Naruto unironically a studHowever, in the novel where he trapped Kurotsuchi and Chojuro, he also trapped base Naruto, but it is mentioned that Naruto would leave easily if he used Kurama's power. Momoshiki himself trapped Naruto Base, Kages and Sasuke, but used the stakes on Naruto as extra reinforcement because he knew he would leave if he used Kurama...There's no way, the Hokage is the strongest.
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It should be more potent then genjustu since it works on an instinctual level
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I was rereading the last chapters of Boruto, and I noticed that Eida said that juvenile Juubi's clones are probably strong since they are parts of him, Eida and Daemon hardly called anyone strong, not even the Unlimited Code seem strong to them, and Code himself treats this army as something strong enough to subdue Konoha, including Naruto, Eida, Daemon, Boruto, Kawaki etc... We know that Code will attack the village with them, and we will probably see characters like Boruto, Shikamaru, Sasuke (if he doesn't die for Kawaki before), Eida, Daemon and Sakura fighting with them. I'm feeling that Kishimoto is going to completely destroy the scale, more than it already is... I think we will either have nerfs on some 5-B characters, or we will have the War Juubi scaling to 5-B...
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They been saying the juubi was a threat even after comparing it to war arc 10 tails. But boruto fans ignore stuff like that so everyone can be above kaguya or at otsusiki level. Boruto/naruto scaling is just inconsistent theirs no way to accurately a scale anything.
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In this I agree with you, it would be much easier only characters like Momoshiki, Kinshiki, Isshiki, Naruto and Sasuke, Eida, Unlimited Code, and Daemon scale to tier 5. But they prefer to complicate. It's even strange to think that for them it makes total sense for characters like Kages, Sakura, Shikamaru to be 5B...
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it's not thats it's inconsistent it's that people dont understand that with the exception of like 1 character, the gap in power between the godtiers isnt that big and 2. The ten tails raw chakra concentrated into something >>> it's regular form. (the gap in literally zettatons on our profiles is because of some questionable multipliers lol)
think of it as Kid naruto who has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chakra than people like Kakashi but are clearly weaker than him during the start of the series
Also Eida's statement is in reference to Shikamaru asking, your average leaf jonin isnt ten tails juice tier lol
think of it as Kid naruto who has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chakra than people like Kakashi but are clearly weaker than him during the start of the series
Also Eida's statement is in reference to Shikamaru asking, your average leaf jonin isnt ten tails juice tier lol
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Thats because nobody needs chakra control anymore everyone basically mastered it out a nowhere.
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not really, its because the story focuses on characters on the highest echelon of the power in the series Hierarchy.
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Idk people act like these characters can't find the Juubia powerful threat and still have superior AP. It's still a mindless creature that can wipe continents off the map instantly. Of course, the Kage would be worried about that. And if Code had an army of Mini Juubis he could very possibly overwhelm the 6 people in Konoha that can fight opponents of that level and cause major casualties.
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Dude do you remember Naruto? He needed tons of training and he was genin for like 3 years before he learened to use his first element, Boroto was basically born with 3, we had like 3 episodes just for Naruto trainning how to climb trees now everyone mastered it already but apparently no one needs to learn to walk on water because it apparently become impossible.
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Naruto's chakra control was much harder to master than everyone else's because of the Nine tails.
Don't forget Sakura could climb trees instantly too, Kakashi was a jounin lvl shinobi at 6 years old. Prodigies exist and there are a lot in Boruto because Naruto's generation had a lot of powerful individuals, just because Naruto struggled due to his very specific circumstance doesn't mean everyone will struggle equally.
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Sasuke also struggled and he was supposedly a genius, Sakura was another that was born with it mastered funny enough she was the last one to get an actual significant boost in power even though she already mastered all the basics.
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That really just goes to show how much Boruto's generation surpassed Naruto's in raw talent. Something that isn't really surprising given how Naruto's gen got to experience a war where they fought practically all of their predecessors along with six paths/ten tails characters and passed that knowledge and new potential onto the next-gen.
