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Well I generally assume we mean all fiction if we don't restrict animanga wise

(naruto would be T1 animanga wise and no ive watched/read 200+ of those)
What about all shows
Nah cause you are objectively wrong if you think Naruto is a top 10 series if you consider all anime and if you consider all media it's a big red flag that you think this basic shit is top 10 worthy.
"objective" 🤓
 
Nah cause you are objectively wrong if you think Naruto is a top 10 series if you consider all anime and if you consider all media it's a big red flag that you think this basic shit is top 10 worthy.
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cringe elitist behavior, naruto most certainly is a strong contender and well deserving of T10 placements in people's lists, I can consider all the stuff you rank above naruto to be garbage, what then?

if you don't like it as much as others that's fine but don't show up policing people on what they can & can't appreciate, it's annoying asf
 
I don't really keep a tracking of the shows like that cuz I tend to forget stuff I fw
like I'll say like so and so and completely forget another show that I liked more than the ones previously listed
Fair, that's why I rate/rank things p much immediately when I watch them (though that does have a disadvantage of recency bias)
 
cringe elitist behavior
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naruto most certainly is a strong contender and well deserving of T10 placements in people's lists,
If you consumed other media it's not, you are still stuck on baby's first anime cause of nostalgia blinders. Expand your horizons and consume other media.
I can consider all the stuff you rank above naruto to be garbage, what then?
You would be wrong like you are right now thinking Naruto is a top 10 media in the first place. Cause every metric we have to rate shows it's not even in the top 50, shit it's not even in the top 100 if you look on IMDB or MAL.
if you don't like it as much as others that's fine but don't show up policing people on what they can & can't appreciate, it's annoying asf
It's fine that you think a shiny turd isn't a turd but that doesn't change the fact that it's a turd.
 
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Read what you wrote again and say it's not
If you consumed other media it's not, you are still stuck on baby's first anime cause of nostalgia blinders. Expand your horizons and consume other media.

You would be wrong like you are right now thinking Naruto is a top 10 media in the first. Cause every metric we have to rate shows it's not even in the top 50, shit it's not even in the top 100 if you look on IMDB or MAL.
Ain't NO way you're using IMDB and MAL as arguments 😭
 
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If you consumed other media it's not, you are still stuck on baby's first anime cause of nostalgia blinders. Expand your horizons and consume other media.

You would be wrong like you are right now thinking Naruto is a top 10 media in the first place. Cause every metric we have to rate shows it's not even in the top 50, shit it's not even in the top 100 if you look on IMDB or MAL.

It's fine that you think a shiny turd isn't a turd but that doesn't change the fact that it's a turd.
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For someone who dislikes the series so much, you sure do be spending an alarming amount of time obsessing over it and hanging around its general thread. 🫃
I dislike it enough to not be in my top 10, not enough to say it isn't enjoyable enough to engage in discussions with.
 
"So like have you not watched a lot of shows?"
"you are objectively wrong if you think Naruto is a top 10 series...it's a big red flag that you think this basic shit is top 10 worthy"
"you are still stuck on baby's first anime cause of nostalgia blinders"
You are not hearing yourself
Amazing counter, now let me use the Oscars or Golden Globes instead and still be right.
No one and nothing's opinion without explanation is valid in a discussion about media. You can use those to say that the general consensus is that Naruto isn't top 10, you can't use it to say that it's objectively not
 
Ghost and King should debate on if Naruto is a peak story, that shit would be mad entertaining
not needed he's right 😔

midruto is bottom 1 fiction oat🥶

"So like have you not watched a lot of shows?"
"you are objectively wrong if you think Naruto is a top 10 series...it's a big red flag that you think this basic shit is top 10 worthy"
"you are still stuck on baby's first anime cause of nostalgia blinders"
You are not hearing yourself

No one and nothing's opinion without explanation is valid in a discussion about media. You can use those to say that the general consensus is that Naruto isn't top 10, you can't use it to say that it's objectively not
sometimes it is best to just dismiss another person's opinion, you cannot convince a person 2+2 is 4 if they do not wish to accept it
 
"So like have you not watched a lot of shows?"
"you are objectively wrong if you think Naruto is a top 10 series...it's a big red flag that you think this basic shit is top 10 worthy"
"you are still stuck on baby's first anime cause of nostalgia blinders"
You are not hearing yourself
No shit cause I'm typing not talking. Do you talk to your computer screen or some shit? You can claim that Naruto is your top 10 spot wherever it is listed but that would still be proving all my points or that you have basic taste which isn't bad.
No one and nothing's opinion without explanation is valid in a discussion about media. You can use those to say that the general consensus is that Naruto isn't top 10, you can't use it to say that it's objectively not
I can though seeing as we have metrics for rating shows and movies and Naruto isn't anywhere near the top 50 or 100.
Ghost and King should debate on if Naruto is a peak story, that shit would be mad entertaining
Is it Naruto in a vacuum with no other media or compared to other media?
 
Eh, there were too many rushed and underdeveloped things in S2 for the show to really be a 10/10. 9.5/10 sure
That's fine. That's around where I have it too. 9-9.5 pm.
Anyways by clear I didn't mean a tier gap, just that Naruto's marginally better
Fair's fair
Imma be honest, I kinda lost interest in this convo 😭 I'll just comment on this one point:
Same lol.
Agreed on strength as in brawn, but speed is still necessary for abilities to be used effectively.
Sure, but I don't really think there's any significant speed gaps here tbh. But get into the nitty gritty of it all I will not. Let's leave it at that.
Valid (also I have no idea why all my images all got cooked 💀 )
I have no idea why two of my imgur accounts got cooked, it do be like that sometimes 😭
I dislike it enough to not be in my top 10, not enough to say it isn't enjoyable enough to engage in discussions with.
Idk lil bro, if I thought a series was a "turd", I certainly wouldn't dedicate (aka. waste) so much of my precious, irreplaceable time on this earth trying to put it down. I'd personally just stick to the stuff I actually enjoy, but hey, to each their own.
 
No shit cause I'm typing not talking. Do you talk to your computer screen or some shit? You can claim that Naruto is your top 10 spot wherever it is listed but that would still be proving all my points or that you have basic taste which isn't bad.

I can though seeing as we have metrics for rating shows and movies and Naruto isn't anywhere near the top 50 or 100.

Is it Naruto in a vacuum with no other media or compared to other media?
What are the 2017 arguments against Naruto?
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Idk lil bro, if I thought a series was a "turd", I certainly wouldn't dedicate (aka. waste) so much of my precious, irreplaceable time on this earth trying to put it down. I'd personally just stick to the stuff I actually enjoy, but hey, to each their own.
If I compare it to something goat tier like lord of the rings, game of thrones(book), breaking bad, cowboy bebop, better call saul, the sopranos, etc it kinda would be considered a turd along with one piece and bleach. It would be above PJ show and GoT show though.
 
No shit cause I'm typing not talking. Do you talk to your computer screen or some shit?
over your head Memes & GIFs - Imgflip

I can though seeing as we have metrics for rating shows and movies and Naruto isn't anywhere near the top 50 or 100.
Subjective metrics subjectively decided and subjectively rated by people that have subjective experiences and preferences. Not seeing the objectivity here.
That's fine. That's around where I have it too. 9-9.5 pm.

Fair's fair

Same lol.
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Sure, but I don't really think there's any significant speed gaps here tbh. But get into the nitty gritty of it all I will not. Let's leave it at that.
I sure hope you're not including Kakuzu and Deidara in that statement
I have no idea why two of my imgur accounts got cooked, it do be like that sometimes 😭
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If I compare it to something goat tier like lord of the rings, game of thrones(book), breaking bad, cowboy bebop, better call saul, the sopranos, etc it kinda would be considered a turd along with one piece and bleach. It would be above PJ show and GoT show though.
Curious what you think of Hazbin Hotel compared to all these
 
If I compare it to something goat tier like lord of the rings, game of thrones(book), breaking bad, cowboy bebop, better call saul, the sopranos, etc it kinda would be considered a turd along with one piece and bleach.
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here's the links to all their discussion pages,




sorry to see you leave the "turd" 's discussion page so soon
farewell and goodluck soldier 🫡
 
If I compare it to something goat tier like lord of the rings, game of thrones(book), breaking bad, cowboy bebop, better call saul, the sopranos, etc it kinda would be considered a turd along with one piece and bleach.
It's really not, though.

And before you go all "☝️🍆🤓" on me, yes, I have watched all the shows/movies you mentioned (still need to read ASOIAF tho, but I already love the show, at least the first 4 seasons). They're all great. All 9/10 at a minimum. That doesn't mean Naruto's trash compared to them. It just means both are simultaneously good. Multiple things can be great at the same time, it's not mutually exclusive. Naruto's at least a 8/10, it is very much above average. And the 8 is with me being extremely critical and pedantic, I can easily argue it's a 9/10.
 
The show wasn’t bad imo. I liked it and of course expected creative liberties. 🤷‍♂️
Percy is blonde...
Curious what you think of Hazbin Hotel compared to all these
1/100 top spot freak you haters if you don't agree with me on this. /s
It's okay just like Naruto. Not a goat tier at all.
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Subjective metrics subjectively decided and subjectively rated by people that have subjective experiences and preferences. Not seeing the objectivity here.
Disagree seeing as we have them to rate whats objectively the best movie, this is just cope to say its not objective at all when it is.
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here's the links to all their discussion pages,

sorry to see you leave the "turd" 's discussion page so soon
farewell and goodluck soldier 🫡

What does this have to do with what I said at all?
It's really not, though.

And before you go all "☝️🍆🤓" on me, yes, I have watched all the shows/movies you mentioned (still need to read ASOIAF tho, but I already love the show, at least the first 4 seasons).
What do you mean the first 4 seasons? There is only 4 seasons.
They're all great. All 9/10 at a minimum.
9.5/10 or 10/10s
That doesn't mean Naruto's trash compared to them. It just means both are simultaneously good. Multiple things can be great at the same time, it's not mutually exclusive. Naruto's at least a 8/10, it is very much above average. And the 8 is with me being extremely critical and pedantic, I can easily argue it's a 9/10.
Yeah and Nauto isn't one of the greats, its okay/good but it's not great. Naruto is more like a 6/10 or 7/10 if you ignore the Kaguya part.
 
Bro had the choice between clowning Naruto, Avatar the Last Airbender, or MY LITTLE PONY, and thought Naruto was the pick 🗿
 
What do you mean the first 4 seasons? There is only 4 seasons.
First good take I've heard from you.
9.5/10 or 10/10s
Mayhaps.
Yeah and Nauto isn't one of the greats, its okay/good but it's not great.
According to who lol? You and IMDB?
Naruto is more like a 6/10 or 7/10 if you ignore the Kaguya part.
Okay, then, shoot. Gimme your reasoning for why Naruto is a 6-7/10 ignoring the Kaguya arc. And istg if you cite fvckin' IMDB and MAL, this'll be you.... 🫃
 
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