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The only arguments for this are false equivalencies galore.
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Naruto Speed Possible Upgrade
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you do realize they entered the athmosphere and caught on fire because of that right? Other than that, there were no differences
I remember it being stated that the moon was being broken apart and sent as meteors down, which is why they wanted to teleport it away
I remember it being stated that the moon was being broken apart and sent as meteors down, which is why they wanted to teleport it away
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Please, at least watch the relative scenes and then make an argument. Your argument worthless without you see the scenes yourself.
Toneri threw the first meteor from the moon to the Naruto's location while in the base, as a warning to Naruto and when he didn't see Naruto as a threat.
After gaining Tenseigan and it's Chakra Mode he becomes much powerful with every technique at his disposal like every other chakra cloak user, he threw this rocks with intent to kill Naruto and after failure just cut the moon in two. Also, in their fight, they are on the moon.
Please, at least watch the relative scenes and then make an argument. Your argument worthless without you see the scenes yourself.
Toneri threw the first meteor from the moon to the Naruto's location while in the base, as a warning to Naruto and when he didn't see Naruto as a threat.
After gaining Tenseigan and it's Chakra Mode he becomes much powerful with every technique at his disposal like every other chakra cloak user, he threw this rocks with intent to kill Naruto and after failure just cut the moon in two. Also, in their fight, they are on the moon.
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I've seen the calc countless times at this point. And whether or not I've seen the scene doesn't affect my argument on relativistic speed being bunk, though it does affect my question (as opposed to my argument).
Is there proof that telekinetic prowess in speed increases with a form change?
Also, can someone link the scene where this happens? The YT links from Dariel's calc don't work anymore.
Is there proof that telekinetic prowess in speed increases with a form change?
Also, can someone link the scene where this happens? The YT links from Dariel's calc don't work anymore.
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The tenseigan would be capable of crashlanding th moon, which he couldn't naturaly doThe real cal howard said:
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Okay, saw it. And I can safely say that relativistic is downright horrible. Not just for their combat speeds, but for any speed.
One, why are we assuming that the meteor was launched the instant Toneri's illusion disappeared? That's just when it came into view.
Two, didn't see anything claiming it came from the moon rather than just orbit, which is what we assume for most meteor calcs unless shown otherwise.
Three, the meteor is nowhere close to relativistic speeds when in the atmosphere. It be surprised if it was even Mach 100. Even if we did assume that the meteor was launched at that second (which I'm almost certain it wasn't), the same scene shows that's he can't launch relativistic projectiles in the earth's atmosphere, which debunks the relativistic rocks. So again, this is why we don't use telekinetic speeds. There's more factors than you realize.
One, why are we assuming that the meteor was launched the instant Toneri's illusion disappeared? That's just when it came into view.
Two, didn't see anything claiming it came from the moon rather than just orbit, which is what we assume for most meteor calcs unless shown otherwise.
Three, the meteor is nowhere close to relativistic speeds when in the atmosphere. It be surprised if it was even Mach 100. Even if we did assume that the meteor was launched at that second (which I'm almost certain it wasn't), the same scene shows that's he can't launch relativistic projectiles in the earth's atmosphere, which debunks the relativistic rocks. So again, this is why we don't use telekinetic speeds. There's more factors than you realize.
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Isn't the calc based on Cinematic timing anyway? I thought we didn't accept that here.
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it was accepted as far as I am aware
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It affects mostly. Like, I never read/play/watch anything related to Warhammer if I make a claim my words nothing but worthless without knowing the context.
Whenever someone gets a chakra cloak in the series that person becomes much stronger and it's consistent through the manga. It's shown countless times with Jinchuuriki cloaks - from one tail to JJ and Kaguya- the Raikages cloaks.
Whenever someone gets a chakra cloak in the series that person becomes much stronger and it's consistent through the manga. It's shown countless times with Jinchuuriki cloaks - from one tail to JJ and Kaguya- the Raikages cloaks.
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It seems that the only staff member who accepted it was Kep, and I was talking about using Cinematic timing in general. Isn't that something we cannot use?
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Two, didn't see anything claiming it came from the moon rather than just orbit, which is what we assume for most meteor calcs unless shown otherwise.
Its explained in the movie, the moon is being fractured and thrown down to the earth (didn't I already tell you?)
I'm not goodat calculating such things, so I cannot respond to the third.
Its explained in the movie, the moon is being fractured and thrown down to the earth (didn't I already tell you?)
I'm not goodat calculating such things, so I cannot respond to the third.
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Two, you may have that one. That was added last minute anyway.
I'm not 100% sure what cinematic timing is, but most people were claiming it was. Regardless, that meteor isn't anywhere near 34% SoL. At least not where it matters.
I'm not 100% sure what cinematic timing is, but most people were claiming it was. Regardless, that meteor isn't anywhere near 34% SoL. At least not where it matters.
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it was 23 minutes ago...
It was passed. I remember Ant saying so, cinematic timing is when logical speed is ignored for cinematinc timing (a peak human arriving to a place just in time to see a best friend shot despite it being far too away to be realistic)
It was passed. I remember Ant saying so, cinematic timing is when logical speed is ignored for cinematinc timing (a peak human arriving to a place just in time to see a best friend shot despite it being far too away to be realistic)
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Eyeballing, I can tell you right now that meteor's less than Mach 5 in the earth's atmosphere.
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Um guys....Regarding the whole Relatisvistic God-Tier Naruto characters thingy.....I know everybody is happy regarding that, I am too (YAY Naruto is Relativistic), but could somebody like @Kep check out this thread-----> https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1649520 . There have been some points bought up regarding the Speed Upgrade. I don't want to spoil anybody's fun but there are some issues(concerns), best to address them now than create a thread in the future regarding any downgrades that may happen. It would save people alot of work.
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those were adressed though...
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Could u give me the link Pls.. thank u
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its littiarly the last two commentnts.
It was supposed to not matter because of this feat, so now we wait for kep
It was supposed to not matter because of this feat, so now we wait for kep
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Oh ok..I'll recheck it. Thnx
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as 3, annother comment was made
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I locked the profiles again, but after reading the rest of the comments, that might have been too soon.
I think that Kepekley should get the chance to respond before the edits are reverted though.
Also, I personally do not mind scaling Naruto from dodging another meteorite from Toneri, but am not heavily invested in the issue.
I think that Kepekley should get the chance to respond before the edits are reverted though.
Also, I personally do not mind scaling Naruto from dodging another meteorite from Toneri, but am not heavily invested in the issue.
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not every, just the once propelled by the ame power
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what? he threw both the warning meteor and the ones at naruto whitout prep, he needs prep to get the tenseigan, but once ha has it its a done deal
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So,this discussion went from "We can not scale them from TK" to "The meteor isn't relativistic".
Shitstorm happened cause some ppl can not accept Naruto verse getting upgraded,keep finding excuses.And the thing i hate more is that someone says argument against it,then others will just agree with him and quit the discussion.The most popular phrase to cut out the Naruto upgrade in this site was "Outlier",now it varies,depeding on the feet. I think it is easier for Kep to downgrade the verse if it means so much to them.Just not to bother himself,he is already busy.
Peace.
Shitstorm happened cause some ppl can not accept Naruto verse getting upgraded,keep finding excuses.And the thing i hate more is that someone says argument against it,then others will just agree with him and quit the discussion.The most popular phrase to cut out the Naruto upgrade in this site was "Outlier",now it varies,depeding on the feet. I think it is easier for Kep to downgrade the verse if it means so much to them.Just not to bother himself,he is already busy.
Peace.
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Also considering the villages were monitoring the moon they would naturally know if there were also asteroids entering the atmosphere, and use a chakra canon and/or Lee's formation to destroy such a meteor. The fact that they didn't (even while monitoring the moon for such events, as they show in the movie) proves Toneri didn't pull one from the atmosphere, he legitimately pulled rock from the moon, that and it appeared the instant it vanished all debunk this assumption of it being from the atmosphere
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Well, like I mentioned earlier, I personally do think that the speed upgrade seems to make sense, but I am not invested enough in the issue to spend much time on arguing about it, as I am very busy with many different tasks.
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