Naruto revisions Part MCMLXVII: still ongoing.

[ShrekAlmighty]

@Omimi

Burning Hachibi

 

[Omimi]

if Amaterasu does ignore durability then its kk i think

if Amaterasu does not ignore durability then outlier

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@Omimi

1:Obviously

2:Cant be outlier as it hasnt ever shown a limit before or been used before(if we dont count Itachi vs Cm2 Sasuke as it didnt hit him but his shreeded skin))

 

[Ssr4vegito]

@Ssr4

Fighting Juubito

Shouldn't Minato also be High 6A because he and Naruto tore through obito's chakra arms and harmed him i don't think adding sage chakra would give naruto such a boost

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@Ssr4

No High 6-A minato is ridicolous

 

[Ssr4vegito]

Isn't high 6A ems sasuke and BSM naruto also ridiculous?

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Isn't high 6A ems sasuke and BSM naruto also ridiculous?

Ems sasuke that is buffed by naruto and jugo that is comparable to BSM naruto

BSM naruto that can fight juubito

 

[Ssr4vegito]

Minato displayed the feat he tore through obito's chakra arms and his rasengan pushed back obito and the rasengan was his power naruto only added sage chakra

 

[Mindovin]

I don't know if Amaterasu ignore durability or not but if not than we can see it's much more hotter than flames as Itachi's Amaterasu envelop and consume Sasuke's fire jutsu in seconds and Sasuke's Amaterasu more powerful even in the MS state than Itachi.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@SSr4

Only adding sage chakra is quite a lot and what chakra arms did he rip apart?

also this change was done by kep which i wont even try arguing he is the boss

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Amaterasu is inconsistent. It didn't seem to do anything to A when it connected, though he cut his arm off. And I seem to remember Gaara's sand tanking it.

I think 7-B is probably good for it based on the current reasoning. Would scale to Sasuke's incomplete Susano'o with Blaze Release and his Susanoo's defense when wrapping it with Amaterasu.

City level would probably scale to Gaara too.

 

[Ssr4vegito]

Minato displayed the feat and BSM Naruto was only able to fight obito due to sage chakra and i don't think SM can give such a boost

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@BFF

Fair enough

i dont know about scaling it to gaara tho gaara could only keep up with other kage while his sand was enchanced by onoki

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Anyway BFF do u agree or disagree with any of these changes so we can apply them

Lowering Ems Sasuke to 7-B

Base Hashi(superior to tobirama), At least 7-B

physical Madara(Could block lightning armor A punch and kcm narutos rasengan), 7-B

Kakashi AP 7-B (could cut V2 jinchuriki with lightning cable)

Rinnegan Obito(Tanked 2 rasengans from both kcm1 and 2 naruto and hurt kcm naruto physically)7-B

Itachis susanoo(Destroyed sasukes susanoo arm with a slap from his susanoo,) At-least 7-B

 

[Mindovin]

Itachi one shot Orochimaru with a genjutsu there is nothing physical and then Itachi cut his arm with a kunai with this Orochimaru fled.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@Mindovin

Not that time

he did it when orochimaru came back at the end of sasuke vs itachi fight

 

[Mindovin]

It's again one shot with a hax sword this time while he inside his Armoured Susano'o.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Fair enough reasoning for itachi changed

 

[LordWhis]

Mindovin wrote Also with MS characters can't use their full potential because of the eyes drawback and pain even if they have chakra.

Being Edo has the same effect.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

Are we going to ignore that amaterasu can harm Hachibi and Juubi?

Gaaras sand can be considered as PIS or something else.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@Dzhin

BFF said its inconsistent so im gonna go with what he choose

 

[LordWhis]

Amaterasu is inconsistent. It didn't seem to do anything to A when it connected, though he cut his arm off. And I seem to remember Gaara's sand tanking it.

I think 7-B is probably good for it based on the current reasoning. Would scale to Sasuke's incomplete Susano'o with Blaze Release and his Susanoo's defense when wrapping it with Amaterasu.

City level would probably scale to Gaara too.

Can we put a note on Sasuke & Itachi's profiles saying that amaterasu has shown the ability to damage upto High 6-A beings but this should only be applicable in Vs threads if the thread's OP has specifically allowed it ? (Like we currently do with Sasuke having access to Itachi's powers)

 

[Omimi]

Minato displayed the feat he tore through obito's chakra arms and his rasengan pushed back obito and the rasenga was his power naruto only added sage chakra

it was amp by bsm naruto and naruto also was helping here


bm minato =bm naruto

 

[Dzhindzholia]

@Shrek

We can consider Gaara feat as PIS.In the end Sasuke did feat twice,i just cant ignore that.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@Dzhin

Im personally supportive of High 6-C amaterasu but if BFF or Kep dont agree it isnt happening

 

[LordWhis]

Also, I may be wrong but hasn't Gaara's sand tanked planet busting attacks ?

This could just be a similar outlier.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@Whis

Clear outlier if it did happen cant remember it tho

 

[LordWhis]

@Whis

Clear outlier if it did happen cant remember it tho

So what I'm saying is that tanking amaterasu may be a similar outlier.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@Whis

Possible i mean sand was still burning he just extinquished it cause he cut off the air

but u should tell this to BFF or Kep rather than me as their decision is final

 

[Dzhindzholia]

Gaara's sand didnt actually tank Amaterasu,he caught it with the sand.Amaterasu can lay on the ground too,without melting it but as soon as It catches

someone it burns him.

 

[LordWhis]

@BFF:

In addition to what I previously said about the Note:

I would also like to remind you that Gaara's sand has tanked Momoshiki's attacks so saying that Amaterasu is 7-B because Gaara's sand could tank it, is like saying that Momoshiki is 7-B.

 

[LordWhis]

That scan appears to show that Sasuke just used Amaterasu to block the sand, interesting.

Also, what's your opinion on a note like I suggested to BFF, a few posts up ?

 

[Mindovin]

It's not a PIS or an outlier. Gaara use the sand in his gourd to block Amaterasu. It's like Juubi sheding it's skin and Naruto use kcm cloak to block Amaterasu and sheding it in the final fight. Also Amaterasu only burn focus point and don't give temperature like normal flames.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

I think its fine,lets see what others think.I dont really have some issue with Amaterasu cause it is a specific jutsu that scales to no one,only Sasuke and Itachi.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@Whis

Im fine with the note existing and dont see any problems with it

 

[LordWhis]

Amaterasu being high 6-a would actually fix scaling to a great extent. It would explain how Sasuke one-shotted Hachibi.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@Whis

Your pushing it now :/ High 6-c is perfect in my opinion but putting a note about it is fine

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Anyway gonna go now will return in 3-4 hours or so

 

[Mindovin]

MS Sasuke Amaterasu High 6-A? Then EMS-Rinnegan Sasuke after take chakra from the Sage?

 

[LordWhis]

@Mindovin, Shrek & dzindholia:

A possible explanation is that All Amaterasu is high 6-a but living ms users cannot produce enough amounts of it to significantly contribute to their power level. One instance where an ms user actually produced a not insignificant amount of it he ended up one-shotting a high 6-c/low 6-b character, though he almost died.

Edo ms users & EMS users are able to produce it in large quantities to the point that they can make full use of it & thus an EMS user has a high 6-a feat.

That's what I meant when I said it would fix scaling.

TLDR: even living ms users are capable of high 6-a power but the visual strain prevents them from ever performing anything even remotely close to this except when in a life or death situation like Sasuke was against B. EMS & Edo removes the strain.

Think about it this way Guy can always use 8-gates to their full potential & become a planet buster but he never pushes beyond the 1st few gates except in life or death situations. Now remove the side effects or make him an Edo & he is a planet buster all the time.


Does that make sense ?


Though I agree Shrek, that it should only be a note: due to ambiguity.