Naruto Revisions: Continued Again

[LordWhis]

I don't think we should use Amaterasu for scaling anymore.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Julian why have u ugraded Danzo to 7-B it is wrong and inacurate also would cause powerscaling problems as shisui could knock him out itachi is stronger than shisui and so on and so on

also being one of strongest would still apply even if he was weaker than 3 people(Jiraiya,Tsunade,Hiruzen)

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Well according to his profile he is => Jiraiya and Hiruzen.

Where do you suggest we should place him?

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

And revert back kakashi to 7-C dont touch his ap tho

he was only being able to fight obito cause obito needed him to fight him

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Why would he be 7-C? Obito is 7-B at that point.

He is lowballed At least 7-C likely 7-B

 

[LordWhis]

You do realize AP is what we base a tier on don't you ?

 

[TataHakai]

Julian why have u ugraded Danzo to 7-B it is wrong and inacurate also would cause powerscaling problems as shisui could knock him out itachi is stronger than shisui and so on and so on
also being one of strongest would still apply even if he was weaker than 3 people(Jiraiya,Tsunade,Hiruzen)

Shisui and Itachi were equals, in fact if i recall correctly Shisui might have been slightly superior to Itachi at the time

That Itachi wasn't far off from the one who was able to effortlessly one shot Orochimaru, so Shisui being able to knock him out isn't too far fetched

 

[LordWhis]

Didn't Shisui acknowledge Itachi as stronger than him ? I agree with 7-B Shisui though based on hype.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@TataHakai

That itachi was around 10 years younger that just unlocked MS it is fair to suppose he is far weaker he also one shot oro with susanoo not by himself

@LordWhis

Lower kakashis durability and striking strenght not AP or tier

@Julian

those are justifications from before revisions where ridicoulous thing were active

he wasnt considered by tobirama to be eligble for hokage spot and being stronger than most mean more than 50% u shoud put him at 7-C as thats kakashis physical

 

[TheFinalOrder]

Twas I who came up with the method of scaking 1 Rinnegan Sage Madara, lol.

@BFF

But yeah, Madara showed that he can create 1 Limbo with 1 Rinnegan and 4 additional with 2 for a total of 5.

Being 1 was him limit with 1 Rinnegan, it means having 1 Rinnegan is 1/5th tge capacity of Dual Rinne.

Edo Madara is High 6-A, thus alive Madara with Dual Rinne whould be High 6-A. Thus, 1 Rinne Sage Madara would be 1/5th High 6-A.

Lord Whis summed it up nicely.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

It depends on what the rest think.

@Everyone

Where do you think Danzo, Kakashi and Shisui should be placed?

 

[TheFinalOrder]

Btw, 7-C SM Naruto needs to be removed. If Jiraiya is 7-B in Base, both his SM and Naruto's should be At Least 7-B, Likely Higher and KCM Naruto should be 7-A (Is stated to be A lot stronger than SM).

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

They are all 7-B giving them atleast would end up giving more or less most 7-Bs at least

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

7-C Naruto was removed long ago bro.

Although it depends on what Kep and Burning think about Sage Mode and KCM Naruto.

 

[Kepekley23]

How is Danzo 7-B? He got crushed like a bug by Sasuke's Incomplete Susanoo

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Danzo was also killed easily multiple times by Sasuke once by simply squishing him in the hand

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Revert danzo to 7-c

and kakashis durability and Striking strenght to 7-C

 

[TheFinalOrder]

@SSGJ

• Shisui is featless. He shouldn't have a page.

• Kakashi should be 7-B solid

• Danzou 7-B. He is Kage Level.

Or did you mean Physically?

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@TFO

Shisui is indeed featless

kakashi aint no 7-B he has no feats besides Lightning cable

Danzou got trashed by sasuke and he was never stated kage level even then A is Town in base form and he is a kage

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

How is Danzo 7-B? He got crushed like a bug by Sasuke's Incomplete Susanoo

Where to you think we can place him?

Comparable to Kitsuchi?

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

@SSGJ

I meant overall yes.

I agree with your stats but let's see what Leo thinks.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Danzo 7-C(Should be comparable to Kitsuchi and kakashi)

 

[TheFinalOrder]

They are all 7-B
giving them atleast would end up giving more or less most 7-Bs at least

Well, SM has to be at least 7-B. Otherwise, the scaling makes no sense.

If people who scale to SM get "At least", that should be fine.

 

[TataHakai]

@TataHakai
That itachi was around 10 years younger that just unlocked MS it is fair to suppose he is far weaker he also one shot oro with susanoo not by himself

They fought before that....Itachi defeated Orochimaru and Oro left the akatsuki

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@TFO

a transformation doesnt make u at least u need a really good casual feat for at least Keps words

@Tata

Yea itachi just put him in tsukuyomi no hits were exchanged

 

[TataHakai]

@Tata

Yea itachi just put him in tsukuyomi no hits were exchanged

Itachi used a basic genjutsu on him, then cut Orochimaru's hand off and Orochimaru ran

I'd say that's for more than enough to scale Itachi above Orochimaru, and Shisui scales to Itachi

 

[LordWhis]

It depends on what the rest think.

@Everyone

Where do you think Danzo, Kakashi and Shisui should be placed?

Kakashi & Shisui should be 7-B. Danzo should be 7-B with wood release, 8-A physically.

 

[TheFinalOrder]

@TFO
Shisui is indeed featless

kakashi aint no 7-B he has no feats besides Lightning cable

Danzou got trashed by sasuke and he was never stated kage level even then A is Town in base form and he is a kage

Except lightning Cable proves he is. And Danzou shouldn't be weaker than Mei who Iirc, is 7-B (Could be wrong).

Plus, Danzou did Damage Sasuke's Susanoo.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@Tata

he cut a orochimaru that can literally do nothing to defend himself also where did u get basic genjutsu even better jonins can dispel basic genjutsu

 

[LordWhis]

Itachi's basic genjutsu is seriously powerful.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@TFO

Mei is 7-B which was accepted by everyone for a decent ammount of feats

danzou got squashed and i dont remember him damaging sasukes susanoo

Lightning cable applies only to his AP not durability or striking strenght

even kep considers 7-B danzo illogical so julian should go and change him back

 

[TheFinalOrder]

@TFO
a transformation doesnt make u at least u need a really good casual feat for at least Keps words

@Tata

Yea itachi just put him in tsukuyomi no hits were exchanged

• SM Does scale from CM at least you know. This was discussed in the earlier threads, but CM being a derivitive of SM does consitute the same boost CM gave S4 which is backed up by calcs and statements. Instead of giving them the 10x boost they rightfully scale from, "At Least" is a fair rating for then.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@TFO

please stop arguing something that was already agreed even by kep and BFF

this is just extending the revisions far longer than they should be

 

[LordWhis]

Mei also has another 7-B feat in destroying Meteorites during the Last.

Should there be a profile for Sakumo ?

Also, Himawari should have a profile. She should be 8-B normally & At least 6-B when angry.

 

[TheFinalOrder]

@TFO
please stop arguing something that was already agreed even by kep and BFF

this is just extending the revisions far longer than they should be

You can't see me rolling my eyes, but just so you know, I am. Just because they say it, doesn't make it so.


@The Danzou stuff

• Danzou placed a seal on Sasuke that needed a power boost just to break.

• Danzou then also destroyed a part of Sasukes newer Susannoo, back down to the skeletal versio

7-B Danzzou is a yes.

Ref. Chapters 478/479

 

[LordWhis]

Danzo should be 8-A physically & 7-B with wood release.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@TFO

Sasuke Isnt 7-B without susanoo seal wasnt on susanoo but on sasuke argument is moot

Sasuke was suprised chakra depraved and also it was assisted by his summoning even if we take it as damaging it

at best he can get his AP to 7-B but striking and durability have 0 proof of 7-B as he was repeatedly one shot

 

[TheFinalOrder]

Danzo should be 8-A physically & 7-B with wood release.

His AP should be 7-B all around.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

Susanoo was shown to break seals several times,Sasuke vs Danzo,Madara vs Gaara,Madara vs Shukaku.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

I will go ahead and change kakashi and Danzo now that its solved