Naruto Revisions: Continued Again

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

@Shrek

I unlocked Obito and Hashirama. When you're done, tell me here.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@Blacke

we shouldnt change white seal as hashiramas statement is illogical considering he has no way to know how strong is tsunade

 

[Kepekley23]

War Arc Hashirama was nigh-omniscient due to WIS, he probably knew what he was talking about there.

 

[Omimi]

>Can there be key for Initial SOSP Naruto

his onlry feats is bloking rinagan sasuke physical attack and we dont know how strong rinagan sasuke physicaly

not counting exhausted sasuke vs exhausted base naruto

 

[LordWhis]

By hashirama someone who doesnt know tsunade beyond the age of 13 at most

as even if died in his 50s hiruzen was in his teens/early 20s when tobirama sacrificed to save him danzo and rest of the squad which makes it impossible for sannin to be older than 13

hashirama also remembers tsunade as a little girl in his flashback

There is an argument to be made for Hashirama probably assuming that his granddaughter was atleast as strong as his city busting brother.

Some sakura fanboys will say that he was probably assuming that his granddaughter was comparable to himself.

Why was Sakura scaled to Tsunade in the 1st place ? (Since she is currently stated to be stronger than her in her profile)

 

[BlackeJan]

@Blacke
we shouldnt change white seal as hashiramas statement is illogical considering he has no way to know how strong is tsunade

Alright so her White Strength Seal should be High 7-C but her base needs to be 8-A

 

[LordWhis]

Also, why was Neiji downgraded from Low 7-B to 8-A ?

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

@Kep

That's what I was thinking. Kishi likely wanted to convey to the readers that Sakura surpassed Tsunade in that moment.

 

[TheFinalOrder]

S-Rank Ninja and Kage level Ninja should be High 6-C actually now that I'm thinking about it. 98% of Akatsuki shouldn't be able to beat the Biju unless they where comparable in part, at least enough to Hurt them.

Are we saying 7-B's can hurt and Defeat High 6-C's?

 

[LordWhis]

I too agree with 7-B Sakura.

 

[Kepekley23]

The Akatsuki restrains Bijuus with hax.

High 6-C S-ranked Ninja is a huge outlier and I'm 100% against it.

 

[LordWhis]

S-Rank Ninja and Kage level Ninja should be High 6-C actually now that I'm thinking about it. 98% of Akatsuki shouldn't be able to beat the Biju unless they where comparable in part, at least enough to Hurt them.

Are we saying 7-B's can hurt and Defeat High 6-C's?

With hax yes.

Also, if Deidara can use C0 through a clone, must of them must've been defeated by that only.

Also keep in mind that most bijuus were fought in v2 mode if even that IIRC

 

[Mindovin]

@TFO

They have hax/counter against them and we never saw all and complete fights/battles between Akatsuki and Bijuu/Jinchüriki. Also without a Jinchüriki Bijuus can't focus their chakra and they have two-three different attack but even with a Jinchüriki most Bijuu never cooperate with their host and with this they become easy picks.

 

[TheFinalOrder]

That would be the case...only if more than 2 Akatsuki had hax.

• Itachi

• Kisame

The others don't.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Done with Hashirama and obito

 

[Kepekley23]

We never saw the full fight between each Akatsuki member\their Bijuus. Also, V2 jinchuuriki would one-shot if they landed a hit.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

7-B sakura is baseless as only reason one could argue is a illogical statement from hashirama that kishimoto probably gave to remove some hate from sakura

 

[BlackeJan]

So....could we make any changes to Sakura?

 

[Kepekley23]

Plus, Itachi was struggling a little with BoS Kakashi who is nowhere near High 6-C.

100% against High 6-C kages.

 

[BlackeJan]

7-B sakura is baseless as only reason one could argue is a illogical statement from hashirama that kishimoto probably gave to remove some hate from sakura

Hence why I said she should be High 7-C

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

@Kep

Was thinking we should mention in the page of the Bijuu that the Akatsuki thing is considered PIS / massive outliers.

@Shrek

Dunno if it's hate, but Kishi wanted to portray that she had gotten much stronger and wasn't as useless as she mostly was throughout Part 1, and also that she'd surpassed her master like Naruto and Sasuke did. The databook even goes further and says she's comparable to KCM Naruto, iirc.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@BFF

Databook states a lot of stupid stuff such as hebi sasuke being stronger than all Akatsuki members individually

 

[Mindovin]

Yes, Pain, Obito, Hidan, Kakuzu and Deidara. We know Pain assign them to their respective Jinchüriki/Bijuu. I mean come on Deidara/Sasori send to fetch 8 tails? They murdered by Killer Bee.

 

[TheFinalOrder]

Akatsuki:

• Pain = Primarily has Offensive Jutsu, his hax is supplimentary and don't add to taking down Biju.

• Kisame = Has Hax Offensive attacks (Absorbs massive amounts of chskra with every attack)

• Itachi = Nuff Said

• Kakuzu = Elemental And Physical fighter

• Hidan = Physical Fighting

• Sasori = Physically fights with puppets

• Konan = Fights with Paper

• Deidara = Fights with Bombs

• Tobi / Obito = Haxed but only assisted in 3 tails capture

So as you can see, only 3 Akatsuki has offensive hax. 1 of which only helped with 1 TB capture.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@BFF

Anyway u gonna unlock madara so i can apply his 7-B change?

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Also Minatos KCM should be brought down to 7-B and not at least 7-B as he shouldnt be any more powerful than naruto who is 7-B and he is weaker than tobirama

 

[Kepekley23]

High 6-C Akatsuki literally destroys the scaling and contradicts every single calculation. I agree that we should mention it's PIS.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

@Shrek

Should obviously be taken on a case-by-case basis.

Okay, going to unlock it.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

I also disagree with High 6-C akatsuki

 

[TheFinalOrder]

High 6-C Akatsuki literally destroys the scaling and contradicts every single calculation. I agree that we should mention it's PIS.

It's a massive plot point throughout the entirety of Naruto. It's literally one of the foundations of the story, this group of people rounding up TB's and threatning Naruto's life.

 

[Omimi]

@BFF

Possibly 7-B should be fine for sakura if no one agree with 7-B

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

@Omimi no its really not but adult sakura being 7-B is fine

anyway should madara get At least to his 7-B as he should be stronger than tobirama?

 

[Kepekley23]

...No. It is contradicted by literally every single feat.

> High 6-C Ittan because his jutsu blocked Deidara's C3

> High 6-C chunins

> High 6-C Anko

> "At least High 6-C Kakashi"

No.

 

[LordWhis]

That would be the case...only if more than 2 Akatsuki had hax.

Are you serious ?

Nagato- Soul rip, king of hell, gedo statue

Deidara- C4 & strategies

Orochimaru- No description needed

Obito- Kamui, wood release, Izanagi

Zetsus- no explanation needed.

Sasori- poisons & virtual indestructibility

Konan- paper body

Kakuzu- hearts, body structure

Hidan- immortality & jashin ritual

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Sooo, shouldn't Obito be adjusted from 7-C to at least 7-C, likely 7-B?

 

[Kepekley23]

Yes.

 

[Mindovin]

@TFF

Pain = Blcak receivers, chakra absorbation, ashura attacks, gravity manipulation and six paths is a series of corpses.

Obito = 3 tails only Bijuu who don't have a host.

Sasori and Deidara = There is several reason Pein assign them to the capturing one-tail.

Konan = Assist Pein

Hidan = Immortal (tier 2) and blood ritual. He is accepted S Rank because of his immortality and his ritual.

Kakuzu = 5 nature transformation,probably dozens jutsu for every NT and at least 70 year experience.

Kisame = Can take Killer Bee and partner with Itachi.

There is one more information you forget and it's most important thing. Akatsuki want to capture the Jinchürikis alive and only two Jinchüriki can use their respective Bijuu's full potential and they know it because of Zetsu.

 

[LordWhis]

@TFA: The jashin ritual is literally the most insane hax ever I can't believe you disregared that.

 

[Omimi]

>no its really not but adult sakura being 7-B is fine

fine with me

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Done with madara