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Naruto: Possible 5-B Revision

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Peter1129 said:
@Blacke 400 zetatons is still low end 5-B. 5-A would still be an outlier.
@Astral Maybe At least Low 5-B+ Likely 5-B or just Likely 5-B w/ Evening Elephant. 5-B w/ Night Guy
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Yeah that sounds better with his attacks
 
The real cal howard said:
So, should I perform upgrades?
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you can but we should wait for kep. Those are most likely gonna be the changes that get applied. Well i guess you can go ahead and add 5B to Hag and Hamura's profile and Kaguya but not naruto and sasuke and guy
 
ok guy should be 5B for the reasons Peter said earlier. naruto and Sasuke can be added. then Adult Naruto and Sasuke then Momoshiki should scale to Kaguya. think Kinshiki and Toneri and BSM Naruto are still open for discussion
 
Three eyes Madara def. scales, the discussion should be about his previous one rinnegan state.
 
Nah Madara def scales since he has a direct statement. Problem is he was not taking Guy seriousl and let himself be hit and then the power Guy recieved from 8th Gate completely outstrips his level of power.
 
Could someone find raw scan about Hagoromo's power mention about Madara's power or reliable/accurate translation?
 
man imo he was taking Guy serious and if he wasnt we would have never allowed GUy to be small planet level.
 
Shadowbokunohero said:
8 gates Guy>Madara Physically
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Note: This Madara was missing his other eye, had fragments of his power stolen by Obito, and did not absorbed the God Tree.
 
Btw, if left is disagree and right is agree, I'm leaning towards the right. I agree, only furthered by Kep's and Matt's testimonies, but I'm not 100% convinced. If some healthy debunking shows up, I won't be the one to stick my neck out.

Yes, you see Cal not on the negative side in a Nardo thread ovo
 
The real cal howard said:
Btw, if left is disagree and right is agree, I'm leaning towards the right. I agree, only furthered by Kep's and Matt's testimonies, but I'm not 100% convinced. If some healthy debunking shows up, I won't be the one to stick my neck out.
Yes, you see Cal not on the negative side in a Nardo thread ovo
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only because you joined the cult of the Almighty Madara sama OvO
 
Note: This Madara was missing his other eye, had fragments of his power stolen by Obito, and did not 'absorbed' the God Tree.

this was the same Madara that wa stated to be approaching hogoromo's power
 
Sage Madara was also missing the other 50% portion of Kurama and the 1% Bee had to use to stay alive in order to be 100% complete.

100% Complete Sage Madara = All the Jinchuuriki aka complete Juubi absorbed + 3 Rinnegans + God Tree Absorbed.
 
AstralKing7 said:
I thought Toneri was Low 5B but anyway he should scale to this since its literally the same feat as his Hamura and Hag lol. Whats funny is that it was gonna take around a hour for the moon to crash to earth and that was calced at planet level but we decided to go with the low end. The calc for Hamura and Hag has a hour used in one end and its baseline 5b so it should be safe to put Toneri at baseline 5B scaling from them and this could scale to BSM naruto making him only baseline 5B but still weaker than his SOSP mode which is consistent. Need more input tho
also that was the low end of the calc that used a hour for hag and hamura
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BSM Naruto and Toneri scaling are supposed to be up for discussion since Kep needed more opinions on it
 
Toneri should def scale it is the same feat but reversed.

(That moment you lift the moon into space only for some idiot years later to attempt the opposite.)

Then there is Naruto being able to quite easily Match Madara Limbo clones
 
Also, Toneri doesn't even scale to Madara, let alone Hagoromo or Hamura. He has his own feat, which is Low 5-B.
 
didnt the feat have two ends and one used a hour just like Hag's and Hamura's feat??? The low end got calced at 5B but we decided to go with the low end of small planet level for Toneri but he said himself he wanted to destroy the earth first before recreating it. Im just wondering
 
yeah i dont mind either tbh just wanna make sure we're looking at all the options and dont downplay him by mistake
 
A Low 5-B attack is enough to nearly destroy the earth, most users struggles to realize that.
 
We don't downplay Toneri. Even after powering up to his maximum and absorbing a portion of Naruto's chakra, his body failed to handle the chakra necessary to actually destroy Earth. He said he was going to do so and died from it, that alone proves he isn't able to output permanent Earth-busting powers.

Toneri's feats are 5-C+ and Low 5-B. He shouldn't scale to this.
 
That is true. But I thought what he nearly died from was absorbing too much power from the Sun? So he attempted a 4-C feat and nearly died from that.
 
Shadowbokunohero said:
Note: This Madara was missing his other eye, had fragments of his power stolen by Obito, and did not 'absorbed' the God Tree.

this was the same Madara that wa stated to be approaching hogoromo's power
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Just saying that approaching doesn't necessarily translate to nigh-equality. When we have something approaching lightspeed, it's gonna be considered anywhere from as high as Rel+ to as low as Sub-Rel (though it's most likely gonna be Rel w/o the +).
 
He did not attempted a 4-C feat in the slightest since the sun would have died if he absorbed that much power.
 
Shadowbokunohero said:
Guy should be added
he almost killed Madara
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Well, madara had become corporealy immortal. So, Gai should only get whatever, for breaking madara's defence.
 
The energy the Sun releases per second is only High 6-A.

Toneri's exact words were that he was going to end Hagoromo's world by absorbing the surrounding chakra. He then began charging an energy blast, and destroyed himself trying to obtain that power.

That proves he isn't 5-B at all.
 
Dark649 said:
He did not attempted a 4-C feat in the slighterst since the sun would have died if he absorbed that much power.
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That is why he attempted and failed. Also he was absorbing natural energy.
 
Dark649 said:
He did not attempted a 4-C feat in the slighterst since the sun would have died if he absorbed that much power.
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he attempted and failed at it which is why he isnt 4C and why the sun didnt die
 
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