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Naruto discussion thread

Shadowbokunohero said:
then she would be High 6-C, because its the same susanoo Sasuke used to fight alongside Naruto's Full cloak Kurama and the same Susanoo Madara used to protect himself from all 9 tailed beasts with out getting killed
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The High 6-C guys are getting downgraded.

Also, you guys should decide on what arc to discuss first, instead of randomly bringing up issues from other arcs. It's going to make the thread look jumbled up and confusing, and we're going to get nowhere.

Preferably from Part 1. TFO said he wants to mention some things about the 8-B guys.
 
Kepekley23 said:
I want someone to organize the proposed changes.
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Question do u mean every change from current states including ones already agreed in the revision(example 7-B itachi susanoo) or only those proposed and not actualized yet?
 
Obito scaling to kcm naruto as he fought him

Tsunade and Ay Scaling to madaras complete susanoo (Not 7-a strongest version but one madaras wood clones used)

8-B Sound four as they are stronger than kid sasuke

Kid temari at least 8-B as she beat cm2 tayuya

8 gates guy scaling to 6 paths madara as he almost killed him (low 5-B)

Sasukes curse mark enchanced susanoo scaling to BSM naruto

Thats all i think for now
 
Also one more thing orochimaru was nowhere near equal to kcm4 naruto as he didnt damage him even slightly he didnt even pierce him with the kusanagi sword


and one more thing katsuyu gamabunta and manda should be atleast as strong as orochimaru as he acknowledged that katsuyu can melt him with her acid
 
Tsunade and Ay Scaling to madaras complete susanoo (Not 7-a strongest version but one madaras wood clones used)

I agree with Small Town level+, likely higher for them, but nothing higher, since they didn't damage Madara's Susanoo at all, just kept up with it.

8-B Sound four as they are stronger than kid sasuke

Okay.

Kid temari at least 8-B as she beat cm2 tayuya

This was Post-Chunin Exams, so I suppose a key can be added.

8 gates guy scaling to 6 paths madara as he almost killed him (low 5-B)

Okay.

Sasukes curse mark enchanced susanoo scaling to BSM naruto

Any reason?I don't remember their fight.
 
I agree with Small Town level+, likely higher for them, but nothing higher, since they didn't damage Madara's Susanoo at all, just kept up with it.

Why when ay can stop their punches tsunade actually knocks down a susanooo and they have been fighting them for a decent amount of time


Sasukes curse mark enchanced susanoo scaling to BSM naruto


fought around equally against juubito and when he slammed they down to the ground both bsm narutos kurama avatar and sasukes susanoo were turned off and they sustained around equal dmg
 
Why when ay can stop their punches tsunade actually knocks down a susanooo and they have been fighting them for a decent amount of time

None of them actually damaged Madara's Susanoo if you reread the fight. They managed to keep up and block punches, but they couldn't really do anything worthwhile. I think they should be Low 7-C+, possibly higher.

fought around equally against juubito and when he slammed they down to the ground both bsm narutos kurama avatar and sasukes susanoo were turned off and they sustained around equal dmg

Seems alright.
 
Why do tsunade any ay get no scaling when orochimaru does considering he was getting beat pretty handily and neither did he dmg kcm4 naruto

and u didnt answer to Obito scaling to kcm naruto as he fought him

anyway one more thing

danzo is 7-c as he is stated to be one of the most powerfull ninja in konoha why arent ay and tsunade atleast Town+ considering tsunade one shot madara and even the strongest ninja in the leaf fear his name (which should make him far stronger than danzo)

one more thing while at it shouldnt they scale to kcm1 naruto as madara casually reflected narutos rasengan and he should be stronger or at least equal to obito who can fight kcm naruto
 
Why do tsunade any ay get no scaling when orochimaru does considering he was getting beat pretty handily and neither did he dmg kcm4 naruto

They do get scaling, just not enough to be a tier higher.

and u didnt answer to Obito scaling to kcm naruto as he fought him

KCM1 or 2?

danzo is 7-c as he is stated to be one of the most powerfull ninja in konoha why arent ay and tsunade atleast Town+ considering tsunade one shot madara and even the strongest ninja in the leaf fear his name (which should make him far stronger than danzo)

Tsunade one-shotting Madara? Please show this.

The reason why Tsunade is Low 7-C+ is because:

1. Kabuto has a feat on this level, and he generally scales to Tsunade.

2. Both Tsunade and A scale to Killer Bee's V2 Lariat, which has a feat in this level.

Low 7-C+ is consistent for them.
 
The three sanin should scale to each other, it's like that in the lore itself, kinda like rock, paper, scissors,Slug, Snake, Frog
 
Preuzmi1111


And why would it be consistent considering never before did we see strenght of 100 seals tsunade

and ay in full power was already equal to and could hurt kcm1 naruto without his hardest punches(naruto said he could hurt someone with those punches and that he felt em)

both kcm1 and then later kcm2
 
their base forms anyway, not counting stuff like Orochimaru's giant serpent form or Jiraiya's sage mode
 
Their base forms scale. Jiraiya and Orochimaru are Town level, while Tsunade is right below them at Small Town level+.

But Orochimaru in Gin's body is explicitly stronger, since he managed to keep up with KCM4 Naruto, who is City level+
 
Im asking why arent lighting armor ay and strenght of 100 seals tsunade city level+

i know its crazy to think they are that level in base forms


one more thing while at it shouldnt they scale to kcm1 naruto as madara casually reflected narutos rasengan and he should be stronger or at least equal to obito who can fight kcm naruto
 
Also why do u keep saying orochimaru kept up with kcm4 naruto when he was getting slashed by narutos punches and he couldnt damage him at all
 
Orochimaru has a 7-B feat, while both A and Tsunade are consistently Low 7-C. They don't scale, people.

Tsunade and A are going to be Small Town level+, possibly higher for damaging Madara's wood clones.
 
Tsunade Broke six of Jiraiya's ribs, both his arms and rupturing several of his internal organs, also its heavily implied that Tsunade is physically the stronger of the two. also is this Base Tsunade or hundred seal tsunade your talking
 
Kepekley23 said:
Orochimaru has a 7-B feat, while both A and Tsunade are consistently Low 7-C. They don't scale, people.
Tsunade and A are going to be Small Town level+, possibly higher for damaging Madara's wood clones.
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Bro orochimaru has no 7-B feat he was getting bodied

while A and tsunade have multiple

One shoting madara who could block kcm narutos rasengan

fighting against madaras susanoo which should be superior to itachis

A hurting kcm1 naruto

tsunade destroying madaras susanoo that sage mode narutos rasengan couldnt damage
 
He was not getting bodied at all. He was losing, but not getting bodied. I'm rereading the fight right now.

Tsunade didn't one-shot Madara, and that was one of the ~2-3 hits she landed in the ~5 chapters they fought.

They fought Madara's Susanoo, but didn't damage it.

KCM1 Naruto isn't anywhere near KCM4 Naruto.
 
Dafuk? Kcm1 is far stronger than 4 tailed naruto?

why would he go training with killer bee to control kyuubi if he already had a stronger transformation
 
Bijuudama. Not in a normal fight. Naruto was directly facing Orochimaru with his guard-on and still didn't avoid getting punched a few pages prior.

Orochimaru was doing well to an extent.
 
why do yall keep saying that orochi totally lost against 4 tails Naruto? in the end, he kinda won actually. he wanst dealing any damage, but he wanst losing either. although he was getting hit a lotta times, Naruto was the one being pushed back, damaged or not. oh, and madara's wood clones would equal original madara, since they have infinite chakra, which is the only thing that separates a clone from the original in an non edo form occasion. and question: would u guys ever do keys for "fusions" in the verse? (like Naruto bsm+ sasuke's PS, or ay and ohnoki when they fought against madara -when ohnoki made him lighter, he blitzed the shit out of both muu and madara, then totally broke through his humanoid susanoo with an air punch, when he was made heavier)
 
Fact as it stand is that He did no dmg while getting one shot by his attack

while A and Tsunade have plenty of feats to cover their 7-B and were doing way better against madara than orochimaru against 4 tailed naruto
 
ShrekAlmighty said:
Dafuk? Kcm1 is far stronger than 4 tailed naruto?

why would he go training with killer bee to control kyuubi if he already had a stronger transformation
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Oh, I thought you said 1-tailed. Nevermind that.

Still, hurting KCM1 Naruto doesn't make you 7-B. Orochimaru did better than that against KCM4 Naruto.
 
A and Tsunade were in no way doing better against Madara than Orochimaru did aginst Naruto.

Tsunade only landed hits because Madara let her.
 
Um you make no sense

KCM1 naruto is 7-B as he should be far stronger than 4 tailed naruto

how does hurting a 7-B while not using your strongest attack not warrant a 7-B rating

while not damaging a 7-B does?
 
Kepekley23 said:
A and Tsunade were in no way doing better against Madara than Orochimaru did aginst Naruto.
Tsunade only landed hits because Madara let her.
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And orochimaru only survived cause yamato sealed kyuubi back in naruto as he states he reached his limit after he attacks him with the sword of kusanagi
 
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