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I guess I'm neutral on Regen Neg and Resistance, then. However, in Zeldris' case, I'm fairly certain his body wasn't actually pierced, his torso was just pushed inward and he was in immense pain.
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Yes but he was regening from the sunshine attack that negates mid regenI guess I'm neutral on Regen Neg and Resistance, then. However, in Zeldris' case, I'm fairly certain his body wasn't actually pierced, his torso was just pushed inward and he was in immense pain.
Estarossa was able to regen his entire torso Derrierie And Monspiet part of their abdomen after an Ark beam their regen isn’t only about reattaching partsI'm fine with this.
Fine with this too.
Neutral on Elemental Intan. and Inorganic Physiology, but the other stuff looks fine.
No to this; Demon regeneration is based around re-attaching and putting their bodies back together if a part of it is lost. After Derieri lost her original arm, she used Darkness to create a larger one in its stead, not regenerate it.
Ehhhh. . .the Graces don't inherently Regen Neg, so I'd say no, especially since I disagree with Regen Neg for the Grace wielders in the first place.
Cool with me.
Neutral.
This was already discussed in a previous thread, this doesn't qualify for Instinctive Reaction. Since you have no scan provided, we can use the scan that's on Zeldris' profile already. It says, verbatim,
Nothing about it is stated to be pure reflexes, nor would something like this qualify for Instinctive Reaction. So, no, ON shouldn't give him Instinctive Reaction.
The effects for the commandments Patience and Repose should be added to Meliodas' Commandments list as wellEstarossa was able to regen his entire torso Derrierie And Monspiet part of their abdomen after an Ark beam their regen isn’t only about reattaching parts
For the graces we have posted scans
Full React is a different technique that is stated to be about reflexes going by what is said about the ability
Édit: Thx for your opinion btw
Byashura also agreed with immunity to soul and empathic manipulationEstarossa was able to regen his entire torso Derrierie And Monspiet part of their abdomen after an Ark beam their regen isn’t only about reattaching parts
For the graces we have posted scans
Full React is a different technique that is stated to be about reflexes going by what is said about the ability
Édit: Thx for your opinion btw
Hence why I switched to Neutral.Estarossa was able to regen his entire torso Derrierie And Monspiet part of their abdomen after an Ark beam their regen isn’t only about reattaching parts
For the graces we have posted scans
Full React was only mentioned one time, to my knowledge, and that was when Zeldris used Ominous Nebula. And in the same scan, it says, like I already quoted, that he's putting his concentration to the limits. Instinctive Reaction wouldn't require concentration because the ability is used in a manner that doesn't require concentration, much less any thought whatsoever.Full React is a different technique that is stated to be about reflexes going by what is said about the ability
Is should be only for Post-Revival Assault Mode Meliodas since all his other Keys still have their Souls and EmotionsAlso, AM Meliodas should have immunity to soul and empathic manipulation unless if the opponent has an interdimensional range similar to acnologia resistances. Because his very soul and sentiments is in purgatory
I know that but still appreciatedIs should be only for Post-Revival Assault Mode Meliodas since all his other Keys still have their Souls and Emotions
Meliodas:
Resistance to soul manipulation And empathic manipulation in Assault Mode due to his emotions being stolen
here change to immunityAlso, AM Meliodas should have immunity to soul and empathic manipulation unless if the opponent has an interdimensional range similar to acnologia resistances. Because his very soul and sentiments is in purgatory
Is should be only for Post-Revival Assault Mode Meliodas since all his other Keys still have their Souls and Emotions
Only for post revival Assualt mode meliodasMeliodas:
Resistance to soul manipulation And empathic manipulation in Assault Mode due to his emotions being stolen
Can you add resistance to the effects of the commandments on other commandmentsHi, i went through some interesting panels while reading NNT/4kota so i wanted to share them with you And have your opinion.
Merlin:
-Light Manip (Here)
-Sound Manip (Here)
-Healing (Here)
Here we can see that she is the one that created the orbs that’s why it should be listed in her profile with a mention about it also being optional equipment
Also she should have:
-Portal Creation (Here)
-Blessed (Here)
Ban:
-Resistance to paralysis inducement (Here)
Edit: (Someone asked me to add that)
Supreme deity:
-Elemental Intangibility, Inorganic Physiology(Type 1. While she's turned into light/energy particles. Traveled from the Celestial Realm to Britannia as a shower of light/energy particles.)
-Limited Absorbtion (Can absorb magic that similar to her magic, which is light, beam and holy based magic attack)
-Resistance to Paralysis inducment (Capable to resist Gowther breaker off which can render an opponent completely immobile for up to ten seconds by severing the connection between their nerves)
-Forcefield Creation: (Here)
Escanor/Mael/Sariel/Tarmiel/Gawain:
-Regeneration Negation via Grace (Mid: Derieri had her regeneration negated by Sariel's Tornada Garce, even after transforming into a Indura
it didn't regenerate her lost arm)
-Resistance to regeneration negation:
Zeldris: (Here, Here)
Estarossa: (Here)
The effects for the commandments Purity and Reticence should be added to Estarossa's Commandment list as well
Fraudrin:
- Purity: Anyone who conducts impure deeds will be inflicted with illness.
- Reticence: Anyone who expresses hidden feeling and/or emotions will be rendered unable to speak.
-Immortality Type 2 And 6:
His body was destroyed and he survived without his body and was able to survive over time which should qualify as type 2 he also existed without a body and as a mass of magic that parasites And possess people here
Demon King:
-Immortality type 8 with 10 commandments
Can survive anything if it doesn’t destroy the commandments (Here)
Zeldris:
Limited Instinctive reaction via:
Ominous Nebula is a technique of extreme concentration where Zeldris revolves his dark energy around him at immense speeds to the point of seeming invisible, creating a vortex that surrounds and attracts all living beings around him. This power makes the air flow and creates a vacuum and everything that comes in contact with it is sliced by Zeldris at a god-like speed by pure reflexes, making this technique a Full React「全反応フルリアクト, Furu Riakuto」. The attack power of the technique is virtually insurmountable as any object or person that comes into Zeldris' stance radius is instantly diced or knock away by instinct unless they possess sufficient fortitude or can destroy Zeldris' blade. The technique was powerful enough to damage Escanor in his state as The One albeit with only some cuts and bruises while in comparison Assault Mode Meliodas' Kami Chigiri had no effect.
Gowther:
Resistance Negation (Could remove DK’s magic despite him being resistant to power null)
Meliodas:
Resistance to soul manipulation And empathic manipulation in Assault Mode due to his emotions being stolen
The effects for the commandments Patience and Repose should be added to Meliodas' Commandments list as well
- Patience: Anyone who shows intolerance of pain will be inflicted with further pain.
- Repose: Anyone who fights without rest will get their magic sealed away.
- Resistance Negation and Deconstruction via True Magic: True magic can disintegrate the Demon King even though higher level Demons can normally resist it.
Agree: Zelas/Speedster/Me
Neutral: 0
Partially disagree:
Mageman (For now)
Disagree: 0
Yeah i added the fact that they resist to other commandments except their own
Link this crt to the staff so you can get their input and also take this to the content revision promotion threadHi, i went through some interesting panels while reading NNT/4kota so i wanted to share them with you And have your opinion.
Merlin:
-Light Manip (Here)
-Sound Manip (Here)
-Healing (Here)
Here we can see that she is the one that created the orbs that’s why it should be listed in her profile with a mention about it also being optional equipment
Also she should have:
-Portal Creation (Here)
-Blessed (Here)
Ban:
-Resistance to paralysis inducement (Here)
Edit: (Someone asked me to add that)
Supreme deity:
-Elemental Intangibility, Inorganic Physiology(Type 1. While she's turned into light/energy particles. Traveled from the Celestial Realm to Britannia as a shower of light/energy particles.)
-Limited Absorbtion (Can absorb magic that similar to her magic, which is light, beam and holy based magic attack)
-Resistance to Paralysis inducment (Capable to resist Gowther breaker off which can render an opponent completely immobile for up to ten seconds by severing the connection between their nerves)
-Forcefield Creation: (Here)
Escanor/Mael/Sariel/Tarmiel/Gawain:
-Regeneration Negation via Grace (Mid: Derieri had her regeneration negated by Sariel's Tornada Garce, even after transforming into a Indura
it didn't regenerate her lost arm)
-Resistance to regeneration negation:
Zeldris: (Here, Here)
Estarossa: (Here)
The effects for the commandments Purity and Reticence should be added to Estarossa's Commandment list as well
Fraudrin:
- Purity: Anyone who conducts impure deeds will be inflicted with illness.
- Reticence: Anyone who expresses hidden feeling and/or emotions will be rendered unable to speak.
-Immortality Type 2 And 6:
His body was destroyed and he survived without his body and was able to survive over time which should qualify as type 2 he also existed without a body and as a mass of magic that parasites And possess people here
Demon King:
-Immortality type 8 with 10 commandments
Can survive anything if it doesn’t destroy the commandments (Here)
Zeldris:
Limited Instinctive reaction via:
Ominous Nebula is a technique of extreme concentration where Zeldris revolves his dark energy around him at immense speeds to the point of seeming invisible, creating a vortex that surrounds and attracts all living beings around him. This power makes the air flow and creates a vacuum and everything that comes in contact with it is sliced by Zeldris at a god-like speed by pure reflexes, making this technique a Full React「全反応フルリアクト, Furu Riakuto」. The attack power of the technique is virtually insurmountable as any object or person that comes into Zeldris' stance radius is instantly diced or knock away by instinct unless they possess sufficient fortitude or can destroy Zeldris' blade. The technique was powerful enough to damage Escanor in his state as The One albeit with only some cuts and bruises while in comparison Assault Mode Meliodas' Kami Chigiri had no effect.
Gowther:
Resistance Negation (Could remove DK’s magic despite him being resistant to power null)
Meliodas:
Immunity to soul manipulation And empathic manipulation in Assault Mode Post revival due to his emotions being stolen
Resistance to Heat manip (at least up to 5x the heat of the sun): Here And it’s been discussed Here
Age Manip: With pacifism that steal the remaining lifetime of those who kill in front of him
Mind manip: With Piety anyone who flee in front of him will be turned into his servant
The effects for the commandments Patience and Repose should be added to Meliodas' Commandments list as well
For any of the commandments user:
- Patience: Anyone who shows intolerance of pain will be inflicted with further pain. (Pain manip)
- Repose: Anyone who fights without rest will get their magic sealed away. (Sealing)
- Resistance Negation and Deconstruction via True Magic: True magic can disintegrate the Demon King even though higher level Demons can normally resist it.
They resist to any commandments except their own Here
Agree: Zelas/Speedster/Me
Neutral: 0
Partially disagree:
Mageman (For now)
Disagree: 0
Idk how to do itLink this crt to the staff so you can get their input and also take this to the content revision promotion thread
Idk how to do it
Okay i added an alternative E.E end and i will wait for more thanks for your opinionI disagree with meliodas having deconstruction. That wasnt the physical body of DK if my memory serves me right. That seems to be an example of existence erasure.
Although DK does have resistance to that, im pretty sure TM Meli has power null.
So IMO Meli doesnt get decontruction but he does get Existice Erasure (Thats more Op anyways)
I agree with everything else ofc
It was the body of the DK provide scans about when Ban, WIld and Meliodas tried to escape purgatoryOkay i added an alternative E.E end and i will wait for more thanks for your opinion
Also, add acrobatics for the demon clan and Meliodas when they are flying since they can dodge mid-air too you may need to find scans of thisOkay i added an alternative E.E end and i will wait for more thanks for your opinion
Have you shown your crt to any mods? You need at least 2 mods to approve before you can make changes.Okay i added an alternative E.E end and i will wait for more thanks for your opinion
I asked By Asura And Mitch if they could come to give their opinions but they didn’t Asura is very busy And Mitch didn’t answerHave you shown your crt to any mods? You need at least 2 mods to approve before you can make changes.
Try Elizha and damageI asked By Asura And Mitch if they could come to give their opinions but they didn’t Asura is very busy And Mitch didn’t answer
AddedAlso, add acrobatics for the demon clan and Meliodas when they are flying since they can dodge mid-air too you may need to find scans of this
Yu gonna come back once fhota anime comes out?Try Elizha and damage
Yes or when nnt gets downgraded again lolYu gonna come back once fhota anime comes out?
And king and gloxinia since they can dodge attacks with flight and acrobatics look for gloxinia vs MeliodasAdded
I think the commandments should be optional equipment for the demon king and other characters that absorbed more than one.Added
Just bump once every 24 hoursAdded
Meliodas, Wild, Hawk and DK too
So high ranking demons should have resistance negationResistance to Regen negation (He survived And his regen worked even though Hellfire have Regen negation)
The other purgatory survivors should have this resistance too DK, Meliodas, wild and hawkbump
The commandments should have resistance negation for affecting the holder despite their resistances as shown with the commandment of selflessness and doll gowther and many other examplesThey resist to any commandments except their own Here
The regen negation comes from Hellfire negating Ban's immortality to begin with I'm pretty sure... So maybe we nerf Hellfire's Regen NegationBan:
-Resistance to Regen negation (He survived And his regen worked even though Hellfire have Regen negation)
Only Sariel gets it as he's the only one with the feat of actually negating regenEscanor/Mael/Sariel/Tarmiel/Gawain:
-Regeneration Negation via Grace (Mid: Derieri had her regeneration negated by Sariel's Tornada Garce, even after transforming into a Indura
it didn't regenerate her lost arm)
Since only Sariel gets it, Zeldris doesn't get this
I don't see how he's immune to soul manipulation due to this, but Unconventional Resistance to Empathic Manipulation is fineMeliodas:
Immunity to soul manipulation And empathic manipulation in Assault Mode Post revival due to his emotions being stolen
It's not EE at all, Deconstruction is fine, Resistance Negation is sus
- Resistance Negation and Deconstruction via True Magic: True magic can disintegrate the Demon King even though higher level Demons can normally resist it. (Someone argued for it being E.E lmk what y’all think about that)
Here goes. Hellfire is still hellfire so maybe ban became resistant to it over time although it's not confirmed hellfire comes from purgatory. Escanor and Mael have regen negation mid on their profiles and Zeldris healed from their attacks so he should have the resistance. Also Estarossa regens from sariels grace with 2 commandments. Meliodas soul is in purgatory they state this mutlpe times in the raws and byasura agrees with it. Resistance negation should be fine considering the DK level of resistance. So at the least possibly or likely resistance negation should be fineEverything except these
The regen negation comes from Hellfire negating Ban's immortality to begin with I'm pretty sure... So maybe we nerf Hellfire's Regen Negation
Only Sariel gets it as he's the only one with the feat of actually negating regen
Since only Sariel gets it, Zeldris doesn't get this
I don't see how he's immune to soul manipulation due to this, but Unconventional Resistance to Empathic Manipulation is fine
It's not EE at all, Deconstruction is fine, Resistance Negation is sus
Everything else is fine
Does hellfire have any cases of negating regen?Here goes. Hellfire is still hellfire so maybe ban became resistant to it over time although it's not confirmed hellfire comes from purgatory.
Zeldris resists Magic, which is what Escanor and Mael use, so yeah... That explains itEscanor and Mael have regen negation mid on their profiles and Zeldris healed from their attacks so he should have the resistance.
Estarossa can still have it, it's Zeldris I take issue withAlso Estarossa regens from sariels grace with 2 commandments.
That's fine then, give em Unconventional Soul ResistanceMeliodas soul is in purgatory they state this mutlpe times in the raws and byasura agrees with it.
Possible is fineResistance negation should be fine considering the DK level of resistance. So at the least possibly or likely resistance negation should be fine
His Hellblaze Nullifies Ban's regeneration, causing a permanent scar - Yes, it's Hellblaze.Does hellfire have any cases of negating regen?
Zeldris resists Magic, which is what Escanor and Mael use, so yeah... That explains it
Estarossa can still have it, it's Zeldris I take issue with
That's fine then, give em Unconventional Soul Resistance
Possible is fine
Well here's the issueHis Hellblaze Nullifies Ban's regeneration, causing a permanent scar - Yes, it's Hellblaze.
It should scale to any high ranking demon above 2 commandemnts Estarossa and Derieri since Monspeet regend from tornado. I agree with possibly
That is a problem but we could just give them resistance negation for affecting ban. Or we could ignore it since it's not confirmed hellfire comes from purgatory.Well here's the issue
You're giving Hellfire Regen Negation for negating Ban's Regeneration
But then you wanna give Ban Resistance to Regen Negation for not having his Regen Negated by Hellfire
That's circlular scaling...